No Single Player offline Mode then?

[Sylv3r]

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comme..._braben_cocreator_of_elite_creator_of/c7ocvoj

Question :
I still play the original Elite on my laptop on the way to work. Will I be able to play 'Elite: Dangerous' in a single player mode without any connection to the net? Thanks.

Replies :

DavidBraben
Yes, though you will lose the richness of multiplayer.

Shindiggery
Thank you so much for allowing this.
I love multiplayer, but sometimes you just want to chill out on a laptop in a place with no internet, the recent trend of some big companies to stop you from even playing single player versions of their games offline has really bugged me.

MichaelBrookes :
Yes, although you won't get the full evolving galaxy experience if you don't connect to the server.


This is cleary stated and said. So to people who said it was not promise : IT WAS
I understand well people who are angry because it will be a lack of playing for me too but during the week, not on week end cause i have a good internet connexion at home. But Elite was standalone, ED was described in Kickstarter as a mix : online AND standalone, some have paid for the online one, some who dont care and some have paid for the standalone aproach.

If it was the contrary, Frontier doing an MMO and saying in last day that it is only a standalone game i am sure thoses who are moaning after people who are not happy to receive an online game will be at the first place crying after their MMO !!!
People have right to cry after Frontier, it was promised, a part of Kickstarter and Alpha was based on it.
This game had never appear without this part of players support.
Personnaly i have paid 200 Euros to support ED and i feel i have loss something that was promise.
I dont blame all Frontier but i blame Mickael and David to dont respect what they said clearly.
I hope they will give us back this promise whatever the time it will take.
I continue to trust Frontier, its a great team and need our support, that not mean i am eyes blinded
/cheer

 

[-o-]

In short, I am not looking for a refund as this game is now not going to forfil the role that it was described as prior to purchase.

Unless I misread you horribly, I think you meant that you 'are looking for a refund'.

I have already requested one from FD, so we will see how that ends. If that fails, I may take it further locally, or even try re-selling the accounts I purchased during the KS (if that is possible).

 

[zelda_n64]

I am off now to tell my friend that sadly he will not be able to play ED due to the fact there will be no offline mode.
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He lives in a place that does not have broadband or a telephone line for that matter. As mentioned previously he ploughed money into this game so he could play a new version of Elite, something we have waited 30 years to be able to do. He travelled to his local public library to make the transaction using their computer system.
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To say he is going to be livid is an understatement.
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Not everyone will be effected by this, but some will be & they have a right to be angry and voice their concerns. You cannot promote something to get people on board and then remove it, yesterday will be 'Bleak Friday' for some.

 

[Unknown Terror]

Even if I want to play a single player "offline* game, I am still connected to the internet. But that's just me.

 

[Wulfrune]

NOT..... NOW..... One letter makes all the difference.

Typo

 

[sngerous]

TBH I haven't been hanging around the forums until now.

From what I understand of this issue it's something that occurred a week or so ago that they announced they'd remove offline mode. What I don't understand is why they can't do what the older games used to do and run a server client setup on a single PC. The Universe creation part being the server and runs separately to the client. The version used for offline could be cut down or obfuscated a bit to counter hacking.

It's something I really miss in that you could setup local hosts for small LAN's and so on.

It won't affect my purchase of ED, but at the same time it's a little bit sour to have this come up this close to release.

Because it's a feature important only for a minority. Most people are always online anyway.

Btw you can hack everything.

 

[Tim Wheatley]

Unless I misread you horribly, I think you meant that you 'are looking for a refund'.

I have already requested one from FD, so we will see how that ends. If that fails, I may take it further locally, or even try re-selling the accounts I purchased during the KS (if that is possible).

I assumed "not" was supposed to be "now", if that helps.

 

[Wulfrune]

Unless I misread you horribly, I think you meant that you 'are looking for a refund'.

I have already requested one from FD, so we will see how that ends. If that fails, I may take it further locally, or even try re-selling the accounts I purchased during the KS (if that is possible).

It was a typo, NOW

 

[-o-]

I don't buy it ... they are three characters apart.

Enough of the deceit

 

[Tim Wheatley]

TBH I haven't been hanging around the forums until now.

From what I understand of this issue it's something that occurred a week or so ago that they announced they'd remove offline mode. What I don't understand is why they can't do what the older games used to do and run a server client setup on a single PC. The Universe creation part being the server and runs separately to the client. The version used for offline could be cut down or obfuscated a bit to counter hacking.

It's something I really miss in that you could setup local hosts for small LAN's and so on.

It won't affect my purchase of ED, but at the same time it's a little bit sour to have this come up this close to release.

No, they announced it with a single vague line in an email newsletter, yesterday. A month prior to public release.

They do not want to give us the server, because the data within it is something they want to keep private to prevent us finding things within the galaxy from it. I can understand their reasoning, but still sad about it.

 

[cptzipzap]

It was a typo, NOW

I wouldnt have kickstarted your post - first you say one thing than you meant the other.. yeah yeah...

 

[SuBSynk]

I am off now to tell my friend that sadly he will not be able to play ED due to the fact there will be no offline mode.
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He lives in a place that does not have broadband or a telephone line for that matter. As mentioned previously he ploughed money into this game so he could play a new version of Elite, something we have waited 30 years to be able to do. He travelled to his local public library to make the transaction using their computer system.
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To say he is going to be livid is an understatement.
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Not everyone will be effected by this, but some will be & they have a right to be angry and voice their concerns. You cannot promote something to get people on board and then remove it, yesterday will be 'Bleak Friday' for some.

So how did this friend intend to download the game on release in order to actually play it offline?

 

[SENTER]

Offline? Why the debate?

I am seeing a lot of posts moaning about how you can't play ED offline. Of course you can't! There isn't a disk big enough to market it and most PCs would crash if you tried to download it in its entirety. It is an online game. The dev's are trying to create an online universe here and that can't be easy. DB wanted the game to be more than a game 30 years ago and he has done it, his dream is about to become alive. I say well done to the dev's and DB, a truly phenomenal effort and a beautiful experience.

 

[Pibbles]

So how did this friend intend to download the game on release in order to actually play it offline?

I imagine box shipping, as per standard and advertised.

 

[gravityztr]

They do not want to give us the server, because the data within it is something they want to keep private to prevent us finding things within the galaxy from it. I can understand their reasoning, but still sad about it.

oh ok now i understand.. night

 

[Tim Wheatley]

I am seeing a lot of posts moaning about how you can't play ED offline. Of course you can't! There isn't a disk big enough to market it and most PCs would crash if you tried to download it in its entirety. It is an online game. The dev's are trying to create an online universe here and that can't be easy. DB wanted the game to be more than a game 30 years ago and he has done it, his dream is about to become alive. I say well done to the dev's and DB, a truly phenomenal effort and a beautiful experience.

You do not appear to understand procedural generation. That's really all I can say.

 

[CapnSnuggie]

Arrghh. At first, i thought a game that was only marketed through the Internet, posted as the biggest online game ever devised, in a universe that you can share with your friends, and that is always evolving...

I thought it was kinda obvious that you needed the Internet to get it.

And 'Offline' play to me inferrs that you at one time had to be 'Online' to get it.

Trying not to say this in a 'Snarky' way, but in a game that has been 100% distributed online, always mentioned 'online download' been patched and updated frequently...

How efficient would it be to now have to ramp up manufacturing to create Game Discs and distribute all over, to the (marketing wise) definite minority of players who would be playing offline?

I think there is a difference between 'Offline' internet updated, and Disc-based 'Standalone'.

You can play tutorial mission without internet connection, and you may be able to play in a limited system set with no updates... That qualifies as 'Offline' mode to me.

I'm all about 'Promises can be kept'. But to have two different promises '200 Billion systems', 'Offline mode' doesn't mean you'll get 200 Billion systems on a disc in the local computer / PC game store...

But again, you should have the option to not pay for an online game. Just don't go to the online store and buy it until it is available as a 'Standalone only, no internet required game'.

And by paying early, you paid to help test and play the online version.

The lack of a 'Standalone Elite: Dangerous' is a serious issue, cancel your preorder. :/

 

[Doubler]

This news doesn't sadden me because I don't have a stable internet connection, but because I was looking forward to being able to mod the game, having a private galaxy unaffected by all the multiplayer nonsense and, most of all, being able to still play the game twenty years from now.

 

[CMDR Byrt Makklin]

So how did this friend intend to download the game on release in order to actually play it offline?

Perhaps this friend has internet at home but works away from home 2 weeks a month? Or is on deployment? So they can download the game, install it and were looking forward to playing it in their free time at their job? Maybe they're hospitalized for long periods of time? I realize this is a massive thread but go back and read some more of it, please. No one is just making up stories about a lack of Internet to have something to whinge about.

This is a shady last minute move to drop on people and most of the complaints I've read (yup, this whole thread) are genuinely miffed and have every right to be so.

 

[SENTER]

You do not appear to understand procedural generation. That's really all I can say.

Oh I do. I just don't see what they are whinging about.