No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Absolutely right. And Diablo 3 could be easily done offline. Elite Dangerous has 400 Billion stars. The universe is created through procedural generation - yes. But also through hand crafting. I would imagine Frontier are effectively nursing the procedural generation through to completion. So one (or more) procedure on one OS creating a database hosted on one OS. The work involved is moving that generation code to multiple OSs, such that it works unattended and in a 'just in time' manner. Similarly the database itself and code that generates events. All that currently is on one OS and can be tweaked as needed because it is centralized. I do not buy a similar augment for simpler games. ED is a totally different scale of problem.
If ANY other always online DRM game is an indication, then you won't be enjoying it when it is released,maybe a few days later^^
True, but that also is the point - if your planned release day for a newsletter is Friday, you'd better make sure the relevant information is on hand to put on the forums over the weekend because that newsletter (no matter what the content) is likely to be the main focus of discussion.
The fact that it's Michael Brookes himself using his posting time over the weekend to add comments in this thread merely serves to reinforce my point. This obvious response by the players on the forums should have been anticipated and an offical response made ready for the Community Manager to deliver before the inevitable storm hit.
That is what I mean by a failure of communication.
Or more to the point, they're just batoning down the hatches and riding the storm out, because clearly and I mean the next point 100%
THEY.... DO..... NOT...... CARE.
It's not conspiracy, game changing design decisions like this should made in alpha stage. But I agree with you, it is a mistake. It is a mistake to not communicate this decision shortly after they made it but before 1 month of the release.
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I am not a native english speaker, so sorry if my posts looks like bit harsh
This isn't required. We have groups, which achieve this already. All group is the mode for consenting to PvP. We don't need a flag to avoid PvP.
I can easily recognize everything you say there, but unlike you i find it inacceptable every single time it happens.
Just because becomes the status quo doesn't make it any less .
I sure hope (i think we both do) you won't have to dig out that "this is normal, folks...happens in every MMO"-speech come december 16th.
Hotfixes and server restarts, no problem....lack of capacity and prolonged downtimes, no lenience.
They said that about the glassbox engine too for Simcity, because apparently no computer could handle the mindbogglingly complex simulation going on at server level. Remember, what is infeasible one moment, suddenly becomes feasible when money and customer goodwill is on the line. Frankly I'd prefer a procedurally generated 50 mil stars with random planet, belt and station generation along with random seeded missions and whatnot that can be readily run on a local computer over all of this, and I know with absolute certainty that such could be managed on a local system.
Again, I don't buy it, and I don't think people should be so quick to buy it either. The whole "richness of the galaxy" ultimately is a smokescreen, when in reality a lot of it is effectively generated over a single seed and the main reason they don't want to deal with people using an offline mode is because then people would generate their own seeds and thus there would be different galaxies in existence. They want control, centralisation, and to be able to curate the content. They also rather handily put DRM in by the back door by doing so, because as a result you have to play on THEIR galaxy, not YOURS.
I am not new to gaming this type of thing has happened far too many times over the years. Promised features get cut all the time from online and offline games. Creative types are not grounded in reality and they really believe they can deliver everything they say.
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They've responded to most questions here, with over 30 posts in this thread. I don't regard that as not caring.
I know you're upset but they care. If they didn't care they'd have screwed over the entire online player base and ruin the game for us just to appease you.
It's an online game. Not an offline game with online tacked on. They wanted it to be an online game with offline tacked on. But they can't do that.
I don't think this makes them happy.
I wonder if that's the extent of their crisis management plan.
When it comes to the DRM-free version of ED. I hope the decision they made had nothing to do with the threat of it being pirated. David Braben himself favoured the idea of pirated software, and the benefits of it, as can be read in this article:
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https://www.techdirt.com/blog/cases...d-games-now-new-business-model-embracer.shtml
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https://www.techdirt.com/blog/cases...d-games-now-new-business-model-embracer.shtml
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Wise words. I hope he still believes that. Taking away the offline game won't help to "evangelise" the game that it would've done.
Hope they will listen at us and do something .. i think it will be taken as a huge relief
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To be fair, the Executive Producer has responded in this thread multiple times, for an extended period of time and in direct response to questions directed at him.
Regardless of what one thinks about what he told us, there was no battening down the hatches.
If they wanted, they could just have let some poor forum Mod ride out the storm, and toss us some PR response on Monday.
Let's keep it real.
Regardless of what one thinks about what he told us, there was no battening down the hatches.
If they wanted, they could just have let some poor forum Mod ride out the storm, and toss us some PR response on Monday.
Let's keep it real.
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