No Single Player offline Mode then?

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your right people are very entrenched in the position

Maybe, just maybe, people aren't letting go because they are dissatisfied with the answers that have been given thus far. Just because people are continuing to make the voices heard (albeit pointlessly because FD clearly aren't listening) it should highlight the fact that there are missing issues that are not getting dealt with. It isn't designed to annoy some people who clearly don't care either way.

In my opinion, people should have the right to have a decent reply and the people who're oppose this right and are being vociferous in their posts; are clearly looking for something to "bother" themselves with.

People want answers and they will continue until they get them.
 
All day on this thread the same things have been repeated time and time again and not one person actually knows any facts or real details beyond other peoples opinions, fear mongering, hearsay or just general slagging off.

It's a bit ridiculous that it's got to nearly 4000 posts now with no substantial response given at any point yet people listen to each other who have no insider info or no real knowledge of any sort of situation.
Can't people wait until there's some real response from Frontier about this? Because I'm pretty sure there will be a statement coming and not just one on the 22nd. Until then people own OPINIONS can only worsen by reading and repeating the same conspiracy theories and accusations.

What I don't understand is the numerous calls for the closure of this thread and it's associated attempted derailments. How does this thread affect you in anyway shape or form?

Most contributions have on the whole been, polite, rational and part of what a lot of people consider an extremely important discussion. Of course like any popular social gathering, it will attract the miscreants of society, the trolls, the dead horse beating GIF posters, (although I gave props to the Threadnaught GIF, that made me giggle), which there isn't a lot anyone can do about. (The moderation of this thread has been a sterling effort by the volunteer mods and I salute then in their tireless endeavors).

But, I have a secret, are you ready?

Don't click on it, it will not seek you out, it will not stalk you, it will not hunt you down and force you to post semi-incoherent slabs of rage-text. In fact if you leave it alone, it will be as if it never even existed and you can live your normal care free life in which Offline Mode is a thing that not only does not affect you, but a mode that you don't even need to know ever existed!

Go on give it a shot, you'll be happier, (we'll be ecstatic), and Threadnaught can continue on it's merry way, uninterrupted, accumulating more and more mass until it finally becomes self aware.
 
They don't deplete resources for you... Resource fields are instanced just like everything else. Which is why you can relog to refresh a field when runs out of what you are mining and you can go back to mining (a really weird thing to me)

Thats great about resources but you still have to contend with bots, hacks and RMTers changing the market for you. How bout discoveries, will others finding them affect the solo instance?
 
What I don't understand is the numerous calls for the closure of this thread and it's associated attempted derailments. How does this thread affect you in anyway shape or form?

Most contributions have on the whole been, polite, rational and part of what a lot of people consider an extremely important discussion. Of course like any popular social gathering, it will attract the miscreants of society, the trolls, the dead horse beating GIF posters, (although I gave props to the Threadnaught GIF, that made me giggle), which there isn't a lot anyone can do about. (The moderation of this thread has been a sterling effort by the volunteer mods and I salute then in their tireless endeavors).

But, I have a secret, are you ready?

Don't click on it, it will not seek you out, it will not stalk you, it will not hunt you down and force you to post semi-incoherent slabs of rage-text. In fact if you leave it alone, it will be as if it never even existed and you can live your normal care free life in which Offline Mode is a thing that not only does not affect you, but a mode that you don't even need to know ever existed!

Go on give it a shot, you'll be happier, (we'll be ecstatic), and Threadnaught can continue on it's merry way, uninterrupted, accumulating more and more mass until it finally becomes self aware.

If you've read any of my posts you'd know that in the short term I couldn't give a damn about fully offline play but in the long term i very much do care about it for the continued ability to play Elite, something which was made difficult with the move to 32bit computing in the 90s with patchy/non existant 16bit/DOS support which pretty much has stopped me playing Frontier in any meaningful way (I still have my original box, CD and manual.)

What I object to about this thread is the endless cycle spiralling forever downwards, peoples opinions and feelings worsening by the hour based purely on conjecture and what people unconnected to Frontier have envisioned to be the reasons or causes etc.

Speculation and conjecture at this point will only have a negative effect on the actual people.
 
Seriously please expand.

Sure...
The community were against the on-line mode only from the begining.
EA/Maxis don't listen to the community
At launch, the on-line mode sucks
People start abandoning the game
They add offline mode a year later
they add Modding support a year later

FD can avoid this, no matter the genre of the game, just listen to the community please.

(sorry about my english, spanish native speaker here.)
 
Currently in the beta resources don't get depleted by others. In fact they respawn if you SC out and back in. No idea if that will change so people using that argument are not basing it on fact.

That is strange and it will change otherwise its an easy way of farming.
 
EA said exactly the same about Simcity (another game that, like its predecessors, didn't need to be online) and, surprise, got an offline mode after the resulting outrage.

We don't need to grieve and move on, we need to show Frontier that they've made a wrong decision and that they can still fix it.

Only one difference . EA not asked for money in KickStarted. Frontier cheated community to be successfully funded. In case if they not cheat they never be funded.
 
I hadn't thought about the adds (although I knew about them), that's true... if you fragment your players into online, offline and inevitable private servers/modded versions you only generate add revenue from the fraction that are online. And since the game, at least right now, doesn't have a whole lot of social interaction, there's no compelling reason for people to play online, tolerate other players messing up the markets, bashing you on outposts while you're trying to land, or gold farming... let alone finding a big Nissan logo next to DeLacey's.

It's not just to fuel the dynamism, or a shortcut to launch, and DRM, as I originally thought.

You know, it's ironic... when both Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous were on KS everyone on the net warned me away from ED, there was no solid info, only empty promises, there was complicated carreer records for some of the involved and previous undelivered promises. SC on the other hand had an abundance of info, demos, better funding... so I backed SC.

Then things changed, SC, as of right now, worries me a lot, there's so much cash rolling and so much investment people on the forums have become cultists (I'm generalizing) and the team has lost a lot of credit, it looks more like they're taking there time and riding the cash wave, living the good life, because they know they'll never make as much money after launch as they're making now... than they are making an effort to get this done anytime soon.

Meanwhile ED was evolving in leaps and bounds, videos with in-game footage, alpha, beta, neat, well developed, objective and visionary design. The art was fantastic, the style spoke to me, and the game was practically launch ready. So I slapped myself for doubting ED and joined beta, paying much more than a pre-order, even though it was just months away. I could have waited for launch, hell, I could have waited for a year and bought it on discount next christmas, like I do with most games, I'm not a hurried person, but I wanted to help the team, they'd done so much with much less than RSI, I knew the team was in debt (normal) and counted on launch to make money. I felt I wanted to help and that the vision deserved a reward.

I work in development too (not games/software) and I understand things change. No one is asking the game to come out exactly like you thought it would. But some things are core.

As others have pointed out, the game was pitched to fans, old-school, whatever that is, older, employed. Who also have lives, kids, jobs beyond gaming. Hobbies are, by definition, something you do at your pace, at your leisure. I play skyrim to this day because I can mod it until it's another game and because I can stop and restart whenever the hell I please. ("Sorry dear, I can't go see what the weird sound our baby made was because a bounty-hunter is trying to blow me to bits... I'll get to it as soon as I frame-shift out of here..." isn't the kind of excuse I'm comfortable giving, my wife already thinks me nerdy enough.)

You funded this game with the money of people like me, we might not be a majority, but in this game, with this pitch I'm willing to bet we're a bloody bigger minority than most other games out there right now.

Online only won't bring big problems after launch, no, because only people who can be online all the time will buy the game, because YOU'LL TELL THEM THAT THAT IS A REQUIREMENT. Kind of a no brainer, all the people who are upset are on this side of the information chasm.

I bought a new joystick for you Elite, even though my old MS Sidewinder (I know! Ironic...) worked fine. Everytime I throttle up and down I'll remember this. The joystick got here just days before NL49 (that's what I'm calling newsletter #49 now, I hope it catches on, I hope you remember it). Luckily for me SC does appear to evolve every now and then, I'll go update the client, which I haven't done in a while.

Oh, and TIE Fighter is on GOG now, offline and DRM free...

Sorry for the melodrama, I did cool my head now, and yeah the angry did go away, but I'm now sad instead. I'll still be playing this, but it won't feel as good. I'm doubly sorry for our fellow commanders who simply can't. Since I'm not a selfish person; I do care that they can't, and I still have an issue with this, even if my crappy connection holds.
 
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