No Single Player offline Mode then?

[Pulse]

something which i've not read on this thread yet, but FD have done a stellar job (pun kind of intended) with warding off piracy thus far with ED. The online only aspect prohibits it (try looking for a cracked version of the beta, it's impossible!), not to mention drastically reduces the amount of hacking/cheating and the degradation of other players game experiences whilst online to boot.

There ARE advantages to this too.

 

[Adept]

It is no grey area. Outside of this forum and EA headquarters everyone understands that a permanent connection to FD servers is Always-on DRM. Intent or necessity are irrelevant. It just needs to be always online to be DRM. Otherwise all companies would just claim it is necessary, like EA did, btw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always-on_DRM

Or it's, you know, and online game? Inherently needing it. Duh.

 

[Jeverest]

I already got Freespace2, thank you.

Omg hahahahaha*snort* agh that response... oh man I think I peed a little.

 

[jamotide]

Or it's, you know, and online game? Inherently needing it. Duh.

Exactly my point, hence it can not be DRM free

 

[SJT]

Same here.

You can actually see the graph curve upwards once offline play started to be confirmed around december 11.

It looks better than this graph at about 11:30 today. Someone getting nervous?

 

[Adept]

I already got Freespace2, thank you.

If that is all you need or want... why are you here again?

 

[Sarduca]

I'm tired of listening to people moaning about online, my opinion and that of my mate Commander Sarduca is it should be online only. I don't see the point in other modes, if the online is too hard then don't play, I am in a wheelchair and only have the use of one arm and I don't have a problem.

I use a ps4 pad using one arm (with no problem) FD. has done this game to perfection, I don't understand how people dis it. No disrespect intended. I just don't get it, the online mode is amazing I've been a backer quite a while I've no problems at all.. Apart from connection problems but its BETA it's to be expected.

Thank you fellow commanders

I agree with my fellow commander, to many moaners moaning about playing on there own on a multiplayer game.

Would you complain that there is no offline mode on eve?

 

[CaptainKremmen]

Same here.

You can actually see the graph curve upwards once offline play started to be confirmed around december 11.

No, it definitely curves up as of November 16th...

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/cig/star-citizen/

 

[Binerexis]

It is no grey area. Outside of this forum and EA headquarters everyone understands that a permanent connection to FD servers is Always-on DRM. Intent or necessity are irrelevant. It just needs to be always online to be DRM. Otherwise all companies would just claim it is necessary, like EA did, btw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always-on_DRM

It's already been explained to you that DRM is implemented to stop copyright infringement. If that's not why a game is online, it isn't DRM. <snip>

 

[jamotide]

Would you complain that there is no offline mode on eve?

If they had sold me the game as offline, yeah I would.

 

[synchromesh]

There's nothing to suggest that they aren't working on processing them. It's impossible for anyone who isn't an employee to confirm or deny that no single request has been processed.

Agreed ...The refund policy is in place....Who knows how long it will take to sort all this out.....Or of course....there could be a lot of shouting here and only a few refund requests.....Who knows ?

 

[SalsaDMA]

Your post changes nothing in this regard. You even make the assumption that things now are designed as it is designed was intended, in which case you are actively asuming that they never intended to fulfill the promise of persuing the design goals that they said they would (otherwise offline would be part of that design)./QUOTE]

You probably shouldn't make assumptions about what other people may or may not be assuming.

It's been documented that in order to make the game they wanted to make, they had to take it online. That isn't an assumption that they never intended to make an offline mode. If anything, it's an admission that it became evident during the development cycle that an offline mode wasn't feasible.

I'm just pointing out what you say.

Again: Offline was promised as part of the design.
So either you design offline in it and follow the design goal, or you don't and do not follow the design goal.

Now you are saying it was not part of the design goal, and the only way for that to happen is if the promise of it being part of the design goal was false.

So again, are you aware of what you are saying? This is not about asumptions, but purely reading what you write.

 

[Alex988]

I agree with my fellow commander, to many moaners moaning about playing on there own on a multiplayer game.

Would you complain that there is no offline mode on eve?

lol ccp never promised that also you can't compare eve with fd. they are both about spaceships and thats it.

 

[jamotide]

It's already been explained to you that DRM is implemented to stop copyright infringement. If that's not why a game is online, it isn't DRM. Your intentional dishonesty on ignoring this fact is astounding.

And the definition does not care about intent or necessity, you simply ignore that. It is still DRM if it requires a constant online connection to the official servers.
If we could start our own servers, only then would it be a DRM free online game.

 

[phlOgistOn]

It is no grey area. Outside of this forum and EA headquarters everyone understands that a permanent connection to FD servers is Always-on DRM. Intent or necessity are irrelevant. It just needs to be always online to be DRM. Otherwise all companies would just claim it is necessary, like EA did, btw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always-on_DRM

IMO (and I'm not geeky enough to know the full ramifications) - if the connection is being used to authenticate the user as a paying customer then it's DRM. If it's a connection purely to use the server's gameplay content without that authentication then it wouldn't be...ie if you could acquire a copy of the game and play without any link being required between your payment details and your client then it wouldn't be DRM?

 

[Demosthien]

There are some forum member posts you should simply ignore, Adept. For example, members who joined yesterday, and posted four times in one thread, using the same inflammatory word. Just ignore such trolls.

You mean members like those who paid money for the product they were told would be available offline, then were happy to wait for that product without getting involved in any of the forum stuff and have only now found out that what they paid for will not be available so decided to express their unhappiness with the turn of events? Are those the "trolls" you refer to?

There so very much empathy being thrown around in your post we're almost drowning in it.

 

[Only]

I suspect if refunds start coming through people will feel they have a resolution and that will be that.

At the moment its just speculation as to if anyone will be refunded at all, thus frustration and annoyance.

Will be interesting to see if anyone like watchdog etc in the UK pick this up.

 

[-o-]

Same here.

You can actually see the graph curve upwards once offline play started to be confirmed around december 11.

Heres one I prepared earlier ....

Spoiler

Interpret it as you please

(that date in there should read Dec 11 2012, not 2014)

 

[SalsaDMA]

There's nothing to suggest that they aren't working on processing them. It's impossible for anyone who isn't an employee to confirm or deny that no single request has been processed.

But untill the refund has been honored, it has, in fact, not been honored.

It's a pretty binary valuation, really.

 

[GiantPotato]

Registered here to communicate my disappointment. It seems like every developer out there is rushing headlong into these online in-the-cloud interconnected game worlds, and none of them ever really work the way they were intended.