Oolite is open source, totally crowd-driven. Elite: Tribute would be made by a company. The difference should be obvious. But yeah, this is purely hypothetical anyway. I was merely saying that I would rube a project by Frontier for that.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Oolite is open source, totally crowd-driven. Elite: Tribute would be made by a company. The difference should be obvious. But yeah, this is purely hypothetical anyway. I was merely saying that I would rube a project by Frontier for that.
I doubt that, most people who would be interested in that instead of Elite Dangerous have lost all faith in Frontier Developments, unfortunately.
NO... obviously not...
i mean: the original backers can maintain the original amount and it is subtracted from the pledge finishing line
How is asking for the return of money that was given in response to a now reneged promise "ransom"?
Me: Hello shopkeeper, do you have any SuperChoco Bars for sale?
Shopkeeper: why yes, would you like one?
Me, yes please.
S: £1 please
Me: here you go.
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Me: can I have my bar please?
S: I'm sorry, we have decided we don't do bars anymore, have a pet cat instead.
Me: But I am allergic to cats and I am not allowed pets in my flat
S: Well, you should have thought about the risks before asking for a chocolate bar.
Me: Well, just give me my cash back and I'll be on my way.
S: Help! Help! I'm being held to ransom by a bad man who wants everyone in the world to have their pet cats put to sleep
Fair enough. I might be foolish enough to support the project with a few € myself.
The thing is, when you say "Hell, that just isn't right! We are all in this right from the start. We shoul'd all make FD to recomnnsider this since many of their fans feel let down and they have the right to play this wonderfull game in the way they want and were promised for." most of those people including myself when i paid £200 to get into Alpha did it to play online mode and some offline with npc mode, you cannot put us all into the same basket, some here did pledge on the basis of wanting pure offline, but most did not so no, we are not all in the same boat.
Well then you would be wrong.
The reason for doing so is that if fans of the game, or a games museum wanted to set up a server to run the game, they would have the option to do so. It won't be a simple option, but it would be simpler than reverse engineering the game. And you can't reverse engineer an online game with no running servers
I'll be totally honest in saying a gave zero thought to the offline version when I backed but I would happily back some more for them to create a stand alone game...if only for nostalgic reasons.... in fact I'm sure if they refunded the money to players that bought in for the aspect of an offline game they might put it back into it the new project.
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That would not be DRM free.
a i misunderstood than
thanks for the rep and indeed i agree that people who dismissing an downgrading the fact that the offline mode is gone are wrong. just because it is not affecting them it does not mean that its ok to dismiss the valid opinion of people who wanted the offline. They also paid for the game and wanted to play it and for whatever reason they can not play it now. also for FD to say that offline is gone 1 month before release is just ridicules the did not decide that offline is impossible 1 month before release they must have now it longer than that but just withhold the news to not hurt saleswitch will have the opposite effect now but that is just my opinion
Yeah, I understand that there is a violation, they are not delivering a DRM free physical edition. And only because they CHOOSE not to, they make no effort to resolve this in any way. That violates paragraph 4.
OMG... You GAVE money to support FDev's vision of Elite. Remember all those "We are making the game WE want to make" quotes that we all loved.
Unfortunately an Offline static insipid game was deemed not good enough to go with their vision.
Than we were sold tickets for the wrong boat. And if you really do not consider us to be part of this comunity, that explains everything that is happening on this thread. I only hope you'll never ever be in position we are in today!
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Thanks for the later page - from that page:
Pledge Tier said:
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FAQ said:
So, no mention (yet) of offline - therefore to play the game at all the online account is required in some way after installation from the disc or download. Even the solo-online game would require to synchronise with the server.
Braben gave an answer to my comment on modding that might give a worrying indication of his mindset:
(Emphasis mine.)
His concern about "branching" (and let's remember that we offliners expected precisely such a "branch") seems to indicate, to me, that he intends to keep all the community together, under Frontier's control (good job they're doing of that, too, excuse the irony).
This also makes me concerned for the solo and private modes, but the important thing to consider here is why he sees "branch prevention" as such an important concern.
Food for thought, anyway.
What part of DRM free dont you get?
So its just marketing speak for always online DRM, i hate it and it should be stopped, your servers suck and make me lag like hell even in the so called solo mode, i want my money back and its faults advertising
I do consider us all to be in the same community as in wanting the game to come out, but those that pledged JUST for pure offline would not be in the community anyway on game launch if FD where able to bring pure offline mode, they would be closed off in their own world, is that what you consider being part of the community ? an ingame community is a different thing seeing other people and interacting with them.
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Thats ok. What is not ok is them not delivering a DRM free server package or alternatively refunding the money.
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