Odyssey Optimization Needs to be Fixed

I don't care for who's done what or why, I just want someone to fix this game. Clearly fdev can't. But o) we have much smarter folks here who can cull and whatever is needed to get oddity to work.

Duck redeem yourself...install and fix this sodding mess.
Of course they can and did.
12 Updates in 1 year - that's very very impresive for a 7 year old game. While also releasing SRV and FC Interiors, while delivering a book worth of fixes.
Yea Fdev is doing great.
 
Of course they can and did.
12 Updates in 1 year - that's very very impresive for a 7 year old game. While also releasing SRV and FC Interiors, while delivering a book worth of fixes.
Yea Fdev is doing great.
They could be doing better - but given the resources I suspect they have at their disposal, at a company who's acknowledged Elite is becoming a bit of a sunk cost fallacy and is crunching to put out/promote other titles, on a game that's seven years old as you say, I'm not sure what people expect.
 
Duck redeem yourself...install and fix this sodding mess.
But I don't need to redeem myself. I just talked with one of the people who donated a Steam card last year, and they totally side with me even today.

Someday I may still buy Odyssey on sale, perhaps, no promises no guarantees, and if I do I'll definitely tweak this, that, and the other once time allows (usually not until Fall or Winter). But from what I've read, there is no "fixing" it using shaders alone. Everything I do in my original mod is pretty low-level color manipulation and simple "turn off this shader to remove thing I don't like" programming. I'm no genius. Morbad is more likely to "fix" Odyssey if it's something that can be done by settings and configurations.
 
There's something weird going on that's beyond just the PC that Odyssey is running on. People can run much more graphically demanding games at better framerates and smoothness (for example, MSFS 2020) on the same PC that bogs down to single-digit fps in Odyssey. Or, take this last update, where we have videos from Burr and his wife showing a serious performance nerf. I use them as an example because normally they are putting out some of the best video content for Odyssey, showing that on a normal day Odyssey performs fine for them.

And then there are people who are supposedly getting a locked 60 fps with no stutters on relatively older hardware. It doesn't make any sense to me, but I'm not convinced it's just the PC, otherwise all games would be equally affected, not just Odyssey. My PC runs all the games I have installed perfectly well (which includes some demanding modern titles), but I'm not going to roll the dice on Odyssey - its reputation is just too bad ATM.
As you frequently admit in the forum - you don't own ED:O, you don't play ED:O. Therefore, you have second hand experience. What makes you an expert on its performance? Hearsay?
ED:O needs improvement in completely different areas, such as richer gameplay, missions which play out as an entire storyline (think Mass Effect side missions), more mysteries /artifacts in deep space, etc. It also needs bug fixing for a lot of known issues. But complaining about its performance is getting old.
 
tose are texture loading deleys .. your game dosent run like this happens when you use a 4 gig grafics card when the recomended is 6 dont say its yoru average day because its not . its time to upgrade that gt 8800 and that dual core pentium buddy

On steam the minimum spec to play Odyssey is this,
  • Processor: Intel i5-4590 / AMD FX 8350
  • Memory: 8 GB RAM
  • Graphics: NVIDIA Geforce GTX 780 / AMD R9 280x (3 GB VRAM)
  • DirectX: Version 11
I have a higher spec system than this (although i am a little below the recommened spec). The bottom image i posted earlier IS MY average day playing Odysssey (i do not have the game running in high rez and i have most details turned off).

What Frontier need to do on Steam is post my earlier screen shot as one of the in game example photos for potential customers so those thinking of buying Ody who are not on or above the recommended spec can see what their average visual experience will be like. More honest i think.

(although, for some reason there are days when the game does run fine... no geometry popping. 🤷‍♂️)

Yes. i need an upgrade (happy to admit). however, Are Frontiers Specs listed on steam..... optimistic given the condition of the game?
 
As you frequently admit in the forum - you don't own ED:O, you don't play ED:O. Therefore, you have second hand experience. What makes you an expert on its performance? Hearsay?
ED:O needs improvement in completely different areas, such as richer gameplay, missions which play out as an entire storyline (think Mass Effect side missions), more mysteries /artifacts in deep space, etc. It also needs bug fixing for a lot of known issues. But complaining about its performance is getting old.
Let's say you put me on ignore (I'm not asking you too, I'm just making an argument). Does that mean all of the sudden all you see about Odyssey is stunning positive reviews? You act like I'm single-handedly destroying Odyssey's reputation. Out of all the posts in this thread, including the OP, why single me out? Is it because I'm an easy win in an argument? "He doesn't have Odyssey, so everything he says is false." Okay, sure - you win!

Now what about everyone else posting about bad performance in this forum and elsewhere?
 
I have a higher spec system than this (although i am a little below the recommened spec). The bottom image i posted earlier IS MY average day playing Odysssey (i do not have the game running in high rez and i have most details turned off).

What Frontier need to do on Steam is post my earlier screen shot as one of the in game example photos for potential customers so those thinking of buying Ody who are not on or above the recommended spec can see what their average visual experience will be like. More honest i think.

(although, for some reason there are days when the game does run fine... no geometry popping. 🤷‍♂️)

The issue with LODs is almost certainly VRAM related. The game really wants 6GiB+, even for modest settings, and ultra has some issues even with 8GiB.

The results can seem random because we have no real way to predict what the game or video drivers will decide to keep or evict from what memory is available and the only way to (more or less) guarantee it's all there when it needs to be there is to have more than 8GiB of memory on the card.

Are Frontiers Specs listed on steam..... optimistic given the condition of the game?

Only if you expect to be able to play the game and not have it look like deformed mud.
 
Well I'd happily drop an .exe if I knew how. I know for a fact there's folks here that know how. Yeah a big ask.
But we have chaps making hud mods and inara, edmarket connector, ed** !
All through obvious need! Nessesity is the mother of invention.
THIS Is one of those times.
Getting the sodding mess to run properly on potatoes and imba rigs.
Cos we're all shagged atm cept those lucky 3080+ owners grrr.
 
The issue with LODs is almost certainly VRAM related. The game really wants 6GiB+, even for modest settings, and ultra has some issues even with 8GiB.
Does lowering texture size help with this? I'd rather blurrier textures than popping geometry. IIRC Odyssey has finer texture detail on the outside of ships (due to walking under them close up), but I'm used to Horizon's less detailed textures, so if nothing else, I could see switching texture resolution based on whether I am flying or walking.

* someday if I were to get Odyssey, of course.
 
Just polling this thread cos it's vital this gets addressed by fdev. Either an acknowledgement that something is wrong with the ingame rendering in particular, at bases of any sort, rather than just ignore what to most, is the single biggest problem with elite.
 
On steam the minimum spec to play Odyssey is this,
  • Processor: Intel i5-4590 / AMD FX 8350
  • Memory: 8 GB RAM
  • Graphics: NVIDIA Geforce GTX 780 / AMD R9 280x (3 GB VRAM)
  • DirectX: Version 11
I have a higher spec system than this (although i am a little below the recommened spec). The bottom image i posted earlier IS MY average day playing Odysssey (i do not have the game running in high rez and i have most details turned off).

What Frontier need to do on Steam is post my earlier screen shot as one of the in game example photos for potential customers so those thinking of buying Ody who are not on or above the recommended spec can see what their average visual experience will be like. More honest i think.

(although, for some reason there are days when the game does run fine... no geometry popping. 🤷‍♂️)

Yes. i need an upgrade (happy to admit). however, Are Frontiers Specs listed on steam..... optimistic given the condition of the game?
I have a higher spec system than this (although i am a little below the recommened spec).

then you dont have a higher spec system than that.. pick one and only one . ither you have a higher system than recomended or you dont .. and the recomended is not a gtx 780 the recomended is a 1060 6 gig varient ......


like i sayd people dont have a problem with optimazation.. what peopel ahve is a problem with teh realisation that the game is not gona run on a gt 8800 nad a pentium 4 ;D

now that you admited to not having the recomended specs the next spet is gettinga job and working to get money to buy a new pc.. with atlets the bare minium of a 4 core with hyperthreading :D
 
Not to mention how to read, as "minimum" reads quite substantially different from "recommended"....

Minimum reads to me that the game will run at a minimum level with details toned down. Not a janky looking mess with glitches galor.
And like i already said, im JUST below the recommended spec, but well above the minimum and im running in Sub 2k resolutions.
So i should expect an experience that is acceptable with some fedelity tuning for FPS.

Im happy to admit that my rig needs an upgrade. But my point here is that maybe some of the blowback frontier have gotten since the release of Ody is down to the spec recommendations needing some revision.

Or maybe.... continue to fix what has been unambiguously a very poor release and a broken product for over a year now.

 
I noticed JWE2 is on gamepass, so I gave it a punt. Its pretty wild how that game runs on 4k ultra with absolutely zero issues at all. Driving through dense forests in first person, with herds of dinosaurs in great detail left and right and a waterfall from a mountain in the distance: its clear something is pretty wrong with EDO. Its impossible to guess why, as the same people with the same engine can make it work in pretty much all FD games except EDO, for now.

On the slightly brighter side, it does show that 'ELWs with Cobra' is not as far fetched as some will have you belief. Taking pictures of wildlife in JWE2 is quite a step up from NMS, and their forests are miles better than what SC does. With most devs working on F1M, and the warhammer IP coming in 2023 I doubt we'll see any major work anytime soon, if ever, anyway.
 
Minimum reads to me that the game will run at a minimum level with details toned down. Not a janky looking mess with glitches galor.
And like i already said, im JUST below the recommended spec, but well above the minimum and im running in Sub 2k resolutions.
So i should expect an experience that is acceptable with some fedelity tuning for FPS.

Im happy to admit that my rig needs an upgrade. But my point here is that maybe some of the blowback frontier have gotten since the release of Ody is down to the spec recommendations needing some revision.

Or maybe.... continue to fix what has been unambiguously a very poor release and a broken product for over a year now.

At some point IIRC they clarified what they meant with it and it was along the lines of '720p@30FPS for min spec'. :rolleyes:
 
Minimum reads to me that the game will run at a minimum level with details toned down. Not a janky looking mess with glitches galor.
And like i already said, im JUST below the recommended spec, but well above the minimum and im running in Sub 2k resolutions.
So i should expect an experience that is acceptable with some fedelity tuning for FPS.

Wasn't digging at you though, as being (moderately) capable to read myself, I fully understood what you were meaning there. ;)
 
At some point IIRC they clarified what they meant with it and it was along the lines of '720p@30FPS for min spec'. :rolleyes:

Yeh i get FPS at about 40 on planetary settlements. Its geometry popping that bothers me.
The two photos i posted earlier in the thread show this. The two photos are at the same station. First photo is the game on session one day, running fine. The second photo is the next day and thats what it looks like minutes after login and it pretty much the par experience going foward for that session.
 
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