Odyssey Progress

[BaconofDeath]

How good was Horizons on day one?

Lots of bugs like this one, except you could actually play the game at the minimum specs they give you. AI ships were a lot harder to kill as they were fully engineered while you were not. There were others, but that was over five years ago, so I cannot remember lots of specifics.

At least with Horizons, you could still instance with other people doing non Horizons stuff without having to exit the game, and move to another client.

An example of a bug that came after Horizons launch, it is still a bug that makes me laugh whenever I see reference to it.

 

[TiberiusDuval]

Lots of bugs like this one, except you could actually play the game at the minimum specs they give you. AI ships were a lot harder to kill as they were fully engineered while you were not.

At least with Horizons, you could still instance with other people doing non Horizons stuff without having to exit the game, and move to another client.

Though this bug came a little bit after Horizons launch, it is still a bug that makes me laugh whenever I see reference to it.

I got game at 2016, so I asked about that. So I had Horizons from start. But what I have seen is that in this forum there is always huge amount of negativity over what ever Fdev does or doesn't . Did some forum searches and seems to me that when Horizons came out there was equal raging about it.

 

[Gruntbuggly]

Those you categorized in group 1 here are considered sycophants by those who feel they have been exposed to a bait and switch scam. Who are found in category 2. By trolls I assume you mean the sycophants buying themselves with attacking group2?

By trolls I mean people who simply post negative crap to annoy people. They may not even have bought the game, but just post stuff to rile up the others.

Also, if you purchased Odyssey through Steam, you can request a refund; and a quick read of the returns and cancellations policy on Frontier's site also says that they may issue a refund if a product experiences continual issues.

That said, Odyssey has been out for what - two days? As other people have said, when have you ever seen a new release program that doesn't have issues? Sometimes, one has to take a product with known issues to market and deal with the issues after the fact - or the product ends up like a certain competitor product which, after numerous delays and problems, is STILL not fully released to the market.

Lastly, two things can be true at the same time: One can be disappointed with the bugs and issues with Odyssey yet still understand that these are normal growing pains and accept that Frontier will fix them in due course without necessarily being a sycophant. Yes, I realize it's easier just to categorize all people who post encouragement or thanks as "sycophants", just like those on the political left label all those on the political right as "fascists", simply because you can dismiss them and their opinions as not worthy of consideration rather than actually spend a few minutes trying to understand what they are saying and why they are saying it.

 

[Gruntbuggly]

You're forgetting the people who love the concept of the game, but are tired of the devs completely dropping the ball with every update. Been playing this game since launch, and it seems like each patch just adds more bugs than fixes. In my opinion, this game has been getting worse and worse since launch.

But yeah, people are trolls for calling out a company for launching a $40 expansion that has obvious glaring bugs by just starting it, or looking at all the bugs reported in the Alpha that weren't fixed. A $40 DLC btw that effectively is still in Alpha or Beta considering how buggy it is. So yeah, I think people have a right to be incensed with FDev for paying money expecting a release version quality product instead of something that is obviously in Alpha or Beta.

I didn't say that ALL people who are posting complaints are trolls, I said that SOME might be. Big difference.

 

[Levianova]

Greetings Commanders,


With our first hotfix now released and another one arriving very shortly, I wanted to take a moment to address the wider community feedback and reports regarding performance issues, server outages, and bug reports within Elite Dangerous Odyssey.  
 
First and foremost, I would like to apologise wholeheartedly to those who have been suffering from these problems. I would like to reassure you that we take these issues very seriously and that they are our top priority and focus.  
 
Our second hotfix will be released very soon, which we hope will address more of the reported bugs and bring further stability improvements into the game.  We will continue to work on updates which will resolve more bugs and improve stability further.
 
Some of our players are reporting poor performance on machines where we would expect the performance to be good, and others are saying it is fine. We are trying to get to the bottom of this. I have been playing on my old home machine from 2014, which has an Intel i7 Extreme CPU and a GTX 980 GPU, 16 Gb RAM, playing at 1080p full screen at Ultra. I was doing this so I could have a good feel for how the game was playing on older hardware, and I used this same machine during Alpha. I have also been playing on a high spec 2021 dev machine.

I would like to thank you all for your patience and support. The Elite Dangerous community has always been at the heart of the game. We understand that there are a number of players who have had problems accessing and playing the game and I can assure you that we are focusing fully on improving this for those affected and communicating with you openly and regularly about how these issues are being addressed.  
 
Thank you all, 



David

I pretty much have that spec and Ultra settings is not playable, only low settings and as many settings as possible off works smoothly except when fire and smoke are involved. Cheers for the update though braben much appreciated.

 

[MJGibson]

Even after hotfix 2, Orange Sidewinder errors are all I get. Literally unplayable.

These words are meaningless.

 

[The Atlas]

legit question: why do people around here think being mad and properly complain at a paid release dlc cause it is barely playable is a bad thing, and the buyer shouldn't be mad about it?

i am really curious on why purchasing a car without a steering wheel or one wheel should be acceptable at any cost lol

 

[Mogen Teras]

I like how Braben conveniently leaves out what framerate he was getting with his Home PC with the 980.

Yeah I can "technically" boot the game with a 1070 Ti and have it run. It runs like a raccoon infested garbage fire, but it runs.

This apology is about as sincere as that South Park apology where the guy opens his nipple flaps and rubs them as he "apologizes." This apology was basically "it runs fine on my RTX 3090 and 59590x at the office, sorry you all have old busted computers."

 

[-MISFIT-]

You're doing good work David Braben. Don't mistake passion for hate. People are overly hurt because they're highly invested.

 

[Gruntbuggly]

legit question: why do people around here think being mad and properly complain at a paid release dlc cause it is barely playable is a bad thing, and the buyer shouldn't be mad about it?

i am really curious on why purchasing a car without a steering wheel or one wheel should be acceptable at any cost lol

I honestly don't know what you're talking about! I've been playing Odyssey for hours now and have had very few problems with it. The graphics are fine (all my settings are on "ultra") and I've had no disconnects since the hotfix earlier today.

But, since there seems to be a lot of complaining going on, I will add my gripe to the list - with Odyssey released, I can no longer use EDHM to change the colours of my ship's controls, meaning I'm back to the default orange Waaaa.

 

[Mogen Teras]

I honestly don't know what you're talking about! I've been playing Odyssey for hours now and have had very few problems with it. The graphics are fine (all my settings are on "ultra") and I've had no disconnects since the hotfix earlier today.

But, since there seems to be a lot of complaining going on, I will add my gripe to the list - with Odyssey released, I can no longer use EDHM to change the colours of my ship's controls, meaning I'm back to the default orange Waaaa.

I think most players have no issues and the forums just let the minority have the loudest voice.

 

[Gruntbuggly]

I think most players have no issues and the forums just let the minority have the loudest voice.

Ah. This forum is Twitter for Elite. Got it.

 

[Mogen Teras]

Ah. This forum is Twitter for Elite. Got it.

Idk. I just see the concurrent players is at the highest it's ever been and is consistently high. So I do start to wonder if it's just us forum users with issues

 

[The Atlas]

I honestly don't know what you're talking about! I've been playing Odyssey for hours now and have had very few problems with it. The graphics are fine (all my settings are on "ultra") and I've had no disconnects since the hotfix earlier today.

But, since there seems to be a lot of complaining going on, I will add my gripe to the list - with Odyssey released, I can no longer use EDHM to change the colours of my ship's controls, meaning I'm back to the default orange Waaaa.

glad that you have no issues, so my question is not including you, it is including the other hundreds of commanders complaining about these issues in a released, r e l e a s e d and paid DLC.

 

[Mogen Teras]

glad that you have no issues, so my question is not including you, it is including the other hundreds of commanders complaining about these issues in a released, r e l e a s e d and paid DLC.

For the people who keep saying they have no problems; what hardware do you have? Being able to brute force 1080p Ultra 60fps with a RTX 3090 is fine but 90% of Elite's userbase doesn't have such a GPU and can't get one even if they wanted to.

 

[The Atlas]

For the people who keep saying they have no problems; what hardware do you have? Being able to brute force 1080p Ultra 60fps with a RTX 3090 is fine but 90% of Elite's userbase doesn't have such a GPU and can't get one even if they wanted to.

they doesn't have and the "recommended specs" doesn't require either. also yeah some do come with "idk what u talking about is running fine on my nasa's control center PC"

but my question was specifically why can't one be mad about a purchase that is clearly not ready for release, yet is released nevertheless?
Like, i like the game, i pre-ordered, they said it would be fine and yes i expected MINOR bugs, but now i can barely play(if you can congratz) and i'm not allowed to be mad about it? Why? It just doesn't make much sense in my head.

 

[simulacrae]

Im glad he gave the announcement on the actual Forums and not just Twitter.

 

[Gruntbuggly]

For the people who keep saying they have no problems; what hardware do you have? Being able to brute force 1080p Ultra 60fps with a RTX 3090 is fine but 90% of Elite's userbase doesn't have such a GPU and can't get one even if they wanted to.

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
500 GB SSD
NVIDEA RTX 2070

Oh, and it's also a laptop. So there.

 

[Gruntbuggly]

they doesn't have and the "recommended specs" doesn't require either. also yeah some do come with "idk what u talking about is running fine on my nasa's control center PC"

but my question was specifically why can't one be mad about a purchase that is clearly not ready for release, yet is released nevertheless?
Like, i like the game, i pre-ordered, they said it would be fine and yes i expected MINOR bugs, but now i can barely play(if you can congratz) and i'm not allowed to be mad about it? Why? It just doesn't make much sense in my head.

Would you prefer having pre-ordered Odyssey only to discover that, maybe two days before the release date, Frontier has delayed the release yet again for another six months? How many times would a delay like that be acceptable to you?

I pre-ordered a product once, and it was delayed about 6 times from the promised delivery date, only to, finally, have the whole company go belly-up before having my order fulfilled. After talking to my CC company, I was able to recover my funds, but that isn't the point.

There comes a point in any development cycle where you have to defecate or vacate. If you delay the release -- yet again -- you run the risk of the pre-orders being cancelled en masse with a large number of ed-off users, or, you take what you have, release it, and then patch and update the release as the bug reports come in - with priority given to the bugs that cause the most strife at the beginning.

It's not perfect, but it's better, in my opinion, than having the release delayed again and again and again - because delaying the release too many times erodes confidence that you'll ever see the product come to fruition - like, for example, Star Citizen.

 

[Mogen Teras]

I actually would have preferred they delay it again. The disappointment I would have felt would have PALED in comparison to the frustration I feel for purchasing what was advertised as a complete product but is actually a glorified test build.

People will be angry when things get delayed, but they will quickly forget their anger when the thing eventually releases and is actually good. When something releases and is absolutely unplayable, that is anger that will never be forgotten.