The fact that VR works in vanity camera but devs for reasons unknown to anyone but Braben wanted this abomination of a VR flatscreen is beyond me. Of course they will probably block it soon for VR users, as they do with all fun activities.
ANNOUNCEMENT Odyssey: Update on VR and Ship Interiors
- Thread starter Arthur Tolmie
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Once you’ve installed odyssey you should find it in the list where you already launch horizons from.
Aye, nearly 30 ..Me too and was it that long ago?
Looks like our FPS skills need enhancing a tad.
You're telling me.
I can't remember which keys do what. Luckily I found a way to take the default key binds for my X52 Pro, append them to my Ver 3 binds and call them Ver 4. I could only ever play Doom in godmode, I sucked so much. Wolfenstein must have been a few years earlier.
Will you be fixing the hotspots not generating materials when laser mining throughout the galaxy as this has been going on almost a year in horizons and its still not fixed.
You fixed the tritium so cmdrs could mine it and fuel their carriers.
You changed all high end mats in hotspots to Deep Core.
But nothing generates when laser mining in rocks in hotspots and it hasnt for a long time.
Please fix that and keep the mining community happy because we're not right now. Its a waste of time finding new mining ground or even going out into the black to explore and scan ring systems, finding hotspots if nothing generates in those hotspots for laser mining.
To replicate, go out in the black or for that matter in the bubble, use standard mining lasers, drop into a hotspot and try mining for what the hotspot advertises, you will get next to nothing or nothing and waste hundreds of limpets.
It needs fixing galaxy wide not just in the bubble.
I opened a ticket a long time ago and lots of other cmdrs confirmed it was a problem and confirmed rocks not generating mats in hotspots using mining lasers.
You said it was fixed, you closed the ticket.
You didnt fix it at all.
issues.frontierstore.net
This has been going on since before
So to recap, youve completed Horizons - all the patches - laser mining still not fixed
Youve now completed a lot of Odyssey alpha and odyssey - up to patch 3 - laser mining still not fixed
Instead you have opted to feed the desires of combat players and give them what they want and what their hearts desire, yet broke things for other gameplay types in favour for combat. I understand a lot of you Devs play combat but there is no need to break other forms of gameplay to force players into combat and into your own gameplay type is there. Extremely uncalled for and unfair on a supposedly equally balanced game for all gameplay types.
Please fix it so all us miners can carry on enjoying what we love to do and fix what you broke.
Also forgot
Panther Clipper? Where is it, ah yes its not a combat ship is it, thats why.
So doing a concept on Newsletter 08 and 13 years ago was just a smoke screen then to give players false hope.
We asked for the larger cargo transport ship, you promised the Panther Clipper as it was in the original game and you even did concept artwork for it.
Instead you brought out the challenger series, mamba, krait series, all combat ships and stiffed all the cargo and mining players again in favour of combat.
Its about time you started being fair with the whole Elite community instead of combat based community and made the game equally balanced so we can all enjoy what we do instead of it being stripped in favour of one gameplay type.
Give the cargo runners and miners something new. Combat players have enough to keep them going including space legs and carriers.
Now can you see why you are not being equally fair to all players.
How hard can fixing laser mining and bringing out 1 ship be
Thanks
You fixed the tritium so cmdrs could mine it and fuel their carriers.
You changed all high end mats in hotspots to Deep Core.
But nothing generates when laser mining in rocks in hotspots and it hasnt for a long time.
Please fix that and keep the mining community happy because we're not right now. Its a waste of time finding new mining ground or even going out into the black to explore and scan ring systems, finding hotspots if nothing generates in those hotspots for laser mining.
To replicate, go out in the black or for that matter in the bubble, use standard mining lasers, drop into a hotspot and try mining for what the hotspot advertises, you will get next to nothing or nothing and waste hundreds of limpets.
It needs fixing galaxy wide not just in the bubble.
I opened a ticket a long time ago and lots of other cmdrs confirmed it was a problem and confirmed rocks not generating mats in hotspots using mining lasers.
You said it was fixed, you closed the ticket.
You didnt fix it at all.
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issues.frontierstore.net
This has been going on since before
- FLEET CARRIERS UPDATE - PATCH 1
So to recap, youve completed Horizons - all the patches - laser mining still not fixed
Youve now completed a lot of Odyssey alpha and odyssey - up to patch 3 - laser mining still not fixed
Instead you have opted to feed the desires of combat players and give them what they want and what their hearts desire, yet broke things for other gameplay types in favour for combat. I understand a lot of you Devs play combat but there is no need to break other forms of gameplay to force players into combat and into your own gameplay type is there. Extremely uncalled for and unfair on a supposedly equally balanced game for all gameplay types.
Please fix it so all us miners can carry on enjoying what we love to do and fix what you broke.
Also forgot
Panther Clipper? Where is it, ah yes its not a combat ship is it, thats why.
So doing a concept on Newsletter 08 and 13 years ago was just a smoke screen then to give players false hope.
We asked for the larger cargo transport ship, you promised the Panther Clipper as it was in the original game and you even did concept artwork for it.
Instead you brought out the challenger series, mamba, krait series, all combat ships and stiffed all the cargo and mining players again in favour of combat.
Its about time you started being fair with the whole Elite community instead of combat based community and made the game equally balanced so we can all enjoy what we do instead of it being stripped in favour of one gameplay type.
Give the cargo runners and miners something new. Combat players have enough to keep them going including space legs and carriers.
Now can you see why you are not being equally fair to all players.
How hard can fixing laser mining and bringing out 1 ship be
Thanks
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Looking forward to see if you can walk in a ships interiors in the future...
As a Star Citizen, not including Ship interiors is a HUGE blunder. The reason SC is a $350 Million+ Alpha is almost SOLELY because of Ship Interiors (ok, being fascitious but not far from the truth). The ship interiors are the MOST important location, as Cmdrs and Citizens alike spend soo much time in and on ships, not prioritizing that aspect seems like a HUGE mistake imho
I am enjoying Odyssey in Alpha so far, sure there are a couple issues: NPC's doing traditional dances as they awkwardly try and pathfind, getting caught on a hitbox then floating NPC's in stations when walking though not when at rest.
I have yet to leave the station I got in to and have only been on Odyssey for a mere few hours though already am AWED by the sheer magnitude of size my T10 has as it fills all available space. It's beautiful being able to see the little details of caution and danger signs along with being able to look around with a unique perspective.
I am excited to see how it develops!!...please...please though...I beg you....give us INTERIORS in spaceships. I think the majority of us don't even care if it's slightly inaccurate with size allocations. It opens up a platform to do EVA's, HOT planet mission arrivals and departures - someone mentioned being under fire and hitting a shield cell bank button at the stairway and thus giving you time to get to the bridge to smite them fools - as well as a way for great solo AND community experiences be it chilling by yourself in the observatory deck with a coffee as you orbit a spectacular sight or with squadron meetings on board a fleet carrier as you plan a war.
I will wait, I have faith and I am in no rush but please...let me chill in my bunk like Dave Lister, curry stains and all.
I have yet to leave the station I got in to and have only been on Odyssey for a mere few hours though already am AWED by the sheer magnitude of size my T10 has as it fills all available space. It's beautiful being able to see the little details of caution and danger signs along with being able to look around with a unique perspective.
I am excited to see how it develops!!...please...please though...I beg you....give us INTERIORS in spaceships. I think the majority of us don't even care if it's slightly inaccurate with size allocations. It opens up a platform to do EVA's, HOT planet mission arrivals and departures - someone mentioned being under fire and hitting a shield cell bank button at the stairway and thus giving you time to get to the bridge to smite them fools - as well as a way for great solo AND community experiences be it chilling by yourself in the observatory deck with a coffee as you orbit a spectacular sight or with squadron meetings on board a fleet carrier as you plan a war.
I will wait, I have faith and I am in no rush but please...let me chill in my bunk like Dave Lister, curry stains and all.
Oh it's not a mistake, it's a deliberate (and planned since start) business decision. They will sell them to us soon(tm)
There are quotes from the kickstarter or whenever when they were designing Elite that there will be legs dlc, stations dlc, interiors dlc, atmos dlc etc.
If they do ship interiors, It will probably be another DLC and there'll be a huge jump up in requirements for the game itself.Oh it's not a mistake, it's a deliberate (and planned since start) business decision. They will sell them to us soon(tm)
A Bug in Odyssey let me see the inside of a Cobra and apart from the Bridge and SRV bay, there was nothing there. This means that in order to put in the ship interior, there's going to be a heck of a lot more complexity in the ship models alone and add to the fact that the game engine would have to handle people walking around these ships while they fly. They might have designed all the ships with walking around but it's a massive piece of work to implement it. I would much prefer them to complete the VR Walking around before they tackle ship interiors.
I'm kinda indifferent to both at this point, I'd welcome an update on either of them. VR obviously is not their priority at all, maybe they don't have the required manpower to do that or it's not viable or interesting from a business standpoint for them. The way they realised the "VR look" hints at one dev taking mercy on us VR peps and throwing something together quickly. And thanks for the effort Nameless Guy, btw.! I'd appreciate a sort of steamvr theater mode though, as in throw an environment around it or at least change the bkg colour
Still undecided on Odyssey purchase, strongly leaning to "not at launch" so any update on these subject would be good, on both would be better ;-)
As for "lack of" ship interiors in game - even if they were modelled, why leave it in the live game? People would demand for "enabling" them then because they saw them in a glitch or something. It's possible they're just cut out, or weren't modelled at all. I wouldn't have a problem paying for ship interiors DLC down the line, provided it supports VR.
I don't think it's a blunder. If FDev could wave a magic wand then 1,000,000% .. ship interiors would be in.
But there are two factors. Basic stability of FPS avatars and interaction, not on static stations but on a ship that might be jumping systems or travelling hyperspace? That's running .. Odyssey is first learning to walk. Second apart from getting into a bed and going to sleep, what's to do on your ship that's on supercruise-assist to destination? The interior needs designed access to panels and consoles where you can apply engineering or possible repairs. This is why people who can wait don't want a shell of a ship, they want a ship you can interact with. So, imho, it's not a blunder .. it's a stretch goal.
Here, have a like for reading/speaking my mind.
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I'd be ok with paid DLC for those things, in fact it's a shut up and take my money kind of thing provided one condition was met:Oh it's not a mistake, it's a deliberate (and planned since start) business decision. They will sell them to us soon(tm)
Provided it's in proper VR when walking through these new venues - not this virtual flatscreen rubbish.
If I were in your position, I'd keep my sheckles shackled the now...
I bought Alpha access to give me legit access to assess VR inc the infernally pish ViRtual Flatscreen, and thus enable me to legitimately make noise about it if it wasn't any good, In hindsight, I could have kept my sheckles shackled in my wallet and made my assessments on youtube videos, and might have been better positioned to "negotiate" for VR had I not bought the damned game. Now we KNOW - rather than suspect, that the ViRtual flatscreen is indeed utter pish, you don't need to put your euros in Frontiers coffers, and WE boxheads may be best served if you DON'T.
Rest assured I don't consider it "proper VR support", I consider it another disconnect between the developer and the playerbase. That said I'd be happy with a "3d mouselook" as it is preached here on the forums as a reasonable compromise. If anyone wants to try that for themselves (if they can handle it) download protonwar demo on steam:
Protonwar on Steam
VR, Multiplayer focused, Fast paced FPS with an emphasis on quick and flowing movement. Featuring DM, TDM , CTF, Domination, Bots to practice against, and a Horde mode for single player or co-op. Room Scale VR with HTC Vive and Oculus Touch. Also included, Non-VR and Seated VR!
As for keeping my zlotys shackled in my wallet, it actually depends. I have a close friend who wants to get into Elite and if he goes in, I will probably go in too to play together with him. So far I told him to hold his horses (he has VR too) and explained the situation with the need to take off the helmet. We will probably wait for a sale, unless he's really impatient
It's more or less the same, the VR works as it did before, providing stereoscopic headlook from the pilots seat, some of the menus are updated, and some of the ships appear to have new textures applied to elements of the cockpit, but its 90%+ the same.I have not seen any footage from VR in cockpits from Odyssey , is it the same as Horizons(beyond)? I'm not too interested in the fps aspect of the game but i still want to enjoy "flying" my ship in VR(i tryed desktop didn't click with me
Perhaps I should have reiterated that despite cockpit VR being seemingly unscathed, possibly slightly imprroved with the new graphics, the onfoot ViRtual flatscreen is still woeful.