OK, let's not do that ever again, FD!

[Deleted member 115407]

Can't you take your remote engineered DD5 (no experimental) to Farseer and have her install the Drag Drives? Or does it not work that way? Did you try it?

It works like this...

Pin DD5 at Palin
Go to farseer with stock drives, roll G1, apply experimental
Go to a remote workshop and roll up using the pinned bluebrint

She can probably handle G1-3, but if you take existing G5 to her I think she doesn't recognize it. i.e. you can't convert old DD4/5 at Farseer.

 

[Flaffenbam]

Why would you need new content in order to enjoy faster thrusters? Asking for a friend.

Asking the real question.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Only to Grade 3. Dude, how do you not know this?

Right, so mod the modules at Farseer/Martuuk to grade 1 (or 3), apply the experimental, remote engineer them up to grade 5 at your leisure.

If it's a pre-existing module with a legacy G5 mod that they can't touch, remove the legacy mod from the Outfitting screen (they have Outfitting at their bases for your convenience), then give it to them.

Dude, how do you not know this?

(You have to get a few extra G1-G4 materials to do it this way, of course, but picking them up from a mat trader is going to be way quicker than taking 21 ships to Palin and back)

 

[philngraves]

Why would you need new content in order to enjoy faster thrusters? Asking for a friend.

Point is, we would like new content... engineering was already near god mode, now we need something to challenge us. Aside from the instancing mini-game in pvp.

 

[Cliffson]

Solo runs on wing assassination missions are a blast! Still a bit easy even at elite, but far more entertaining.

Will have to give that a go, cheers!. Once i've finished converting the rest of my modules

 

[MissMeYet]

Why would you need new content in order to enjoy faster thrusters? Asking for a friend.

For when you fight those mythical NPCs that have Engineered ships, I guess.

 

[Lightspeed]

My "gameplay" over the past week has been to equip 21 ships with "new" G5 DD including Drag Drives at Palin. Collecting the materials, using the material traders, grinding the credits to have the ships transported out there (35 Million just for the Corvette...), doing the upgrades...

Not "fun" at all.

But, I'm happy with the performance upgrade, so...where's the new content that will let me use them?

Thanks!

Why do it ..... on 21 ships ! .... if you knew there was no new content that will let you use them?

 

[Deleted member 115407]

Why do it ..... on 21 ships ! .... if you knew there was no new content that will let you use them?

Yeah, like 90% of my stuff is still grandfathered. I'll get to it.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Unless you have legacy drives. No clue what happens if you take legacy G5 DD to farseer, but I would guess grade 2 because she is a hateful old bag. Might as well just get new drives and start over at that point. Even if farseer converted legacy to G3, lord only knows how many rolls to get 5 maxed.

They won't touch the module until you completely strip the legacy mod yourself, but for something like Dirty Drives where the new one is going to come out way better than anything but a legacy god-roll, that's not a big deal.

Legacy should be convertable via pinned blueprint. Seriously.

I've just come back to Colonia having pinned a bunch of blueprints and converted a bunch of old G5 mods on a ship which I left in Colonia to their new ridiculous-power specs.

Cost for each:
1xG1
2xG2
2xG3
3xG4
...and then however many G5 it would normally take to max a legacy module.

It's really not a big deal unless you find yourself both long on G5 materials and short on G2s and nowhere near any material traders.

 

[philngraves]

Right, so mod the modules at Farseer/Martuuk to grade 1 (or 3), apply the experimental, remote engineer them up to grade 5 at your leisure.

If it's a pre-existing module with a legacy G5 mod that they can't touch, remove the legacy mod from the Outfitting screen (they have Outfitting at their bases for your convenience), then give it to them.

Dude, how do you not know this?

(You have to get a few extra G1-G4 materials to do it this way, of course, but picking them up from a mat trader is going to be way quicker than taking 21 ships to Palin and back)

How is it quicker? Materials still need to be farmed, and you can ship your whole fleet at once. I'm not saying its worth it to everyone, but it sure as hell isn't faster to farm and trade mats. At current, every grade 5 upgrade I have converted since Beyond has taken minimum of 9 rolls to max. Throwing in a load of 4's isn't going to make the grind comparable to a 2 hour wait.

And doing 21 ships... yeah, I think OP is one of those hoarder types...

 

[MissMeYet]

If it's a pre-existing module with a legacy G5 mod that they can't touch, remove the legacy mod from the Outfitting screen (they have Outfitting at their bases for your convenience), then give it to them.

Dude, how do you not know this?

(You have to get a few extra G1-G4 materials to do it this way, of course, but picking them up from a mat trader is going to be way quicker than taking 21 ships to Palin and back)

I think I know the mechanics better than you. You just pointed out that I'd need to find more materials to mod all my legacy drives from scratch, compared to doing it at Palin. At Palin, everything takes literally 2 minutes (rolling to maxed out Grade 5 and then applying the Experimental). The trick is to make shipping the ships out to Asterope the last thing before going to bed.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

I think I know the mechanics better than you. You just pointed out that I'd need to find more materials to mod all my legacy drives from scratch, compared to doing it at Palin. At Palin, everything takes literally 2 minutes (rolling to maxed out Grade 5 and then applying the Experimental). The trick is to make shipping the ships out to Asterope the last thing before going to bed.

Then why are you complaining about it?

 

[Vardaugas]

So you banged your head to a wall twenty-one times and then went to sue the mason.

 

[Muetdhiver]

I'm left wondering why you so urgently needed 21 ships upgrading?

Most likely : upgrading one ship at a time with Palin is very time consuming, so to save time it makes sense to
do it all at once. It's what I'm doing with 14 ships. it costs me ~40M in transfers and a lot of time seeking PI's.
Getting the MEF's for the CIF's was fun, same goes for the cadmium (I love doing stupid crap with the SRV).
The PI's where a pain. Thank god for Netflix.

And you can't pin experimentals, so you might as well do the whole thing at once.

 

[4gui4]

go back to play for a week ago, now I'm lost between Synuefe and Col 173 try to find Guardians stuff.

I'm going back Elite exploration, Jesus hate Pallin made me go over 5000 lys

 

[William H. Bonney]

Pin DD5 at Palin
Go to farseer with stock drives, roll G1, apply experimental
Go to a remote workshop and roll up using the pinned bluebrint

She can probably handle G1-3, but if you take existing G5 to her I think she doesn't recognize it. i.e. you can't convert old DD4/5 at Farseer.

thats what i did

you can also take legacy to her and they get swapped over to start of grade 3. i've done that to 5 of my ships so far.

for clarification: experimental's stay on the drive during upgrades

 

[philngraves]

They won't touch the module until you completely strip the legacy mod yourself, but for something like Dirty Drives where the new one is going to come out way better than anything but a legacy god-roll, that's not a big deal.


I've just come back to Colonia having pinned a bunch of blueprints and converted a bunch of old G5 mods on a ship which I left in Colonia to their new ridiculous-power specs.

Cost for each:
1xG1
2xG2
2xG3
3xG4
...and then however many G5 it would normally take to max a legacy module.

It's really not a big deal unless you find yourself both long on G5 materials and short on G2s and nowhere near any material traders.

Point is, legacy converting is a pain. I mean, when you have spent near 1000 G5 rolls on your ships, only to find you have to drag your ships all over the flipping galaxy, AGAIN, it becomes the height of tedium. Sad face...

 

[Ian Doncaster]

I think I know the mechanics better than you. You just pointed out that I'd need to find more materials to mod all my legacy drives from scratch, compared to doing it at Palin. At Palin, everything takes literally 2 minutes (rolling to maxed out Grade 5 and then applying the Experimental). The trick is to make shipping the ships out to Asterope the last thing before going to bed.

You'd need to use more materials. Whether you need to find them or not really depends on your general stocks of materials. I find that the process of finding the G5 mats tends to get all the lower grade ones anyway, so those are basically free.

 

[MissMeYet]

You'd need to use more materials. Whether you need to find them or not really depends on your general stocks of materials. I find that the process of finding the G5 mats tends to get all the lower grade ones anyway, so those are basically free.

Which brings us to playstyle. I don't stop to collect stuff just because I might need it later. That sucks. I'll determine what I want in terms of upgrades then go out and collect the mats.

 

[philngraves]

Thread in a nutshell:

Convert Legacy Modules via pinned blueprint. Allow Legacy Module to select experimental during conversion (still gotta pay).
Sound right?