OK, let's not do that ever again, FD!

Interesting.

Did you do all this before slaying the Nevern lion, or after capturing and bringing back Cerberus?

Either way, I guess you're now up to 13 labours. Good job. I guess.
 
Sorry if this seems like a thread hijack, but just out of curiosity, if I pin a G5 mod, and buy a new module, whcih would obviously be unengineered straight off the shelf and bone stock, can I use remote workshop to roll mods on it through G1 --> G2 --> G3 --> G4 --> G5 if or when I have the materials for each roll?

Or would I need to roll G1 --> MAX, Pin / Roll G2 --> MAX, Pin / Roll G3 --> MAX, Pin / Roll G4 --> MAX, Pin / Roll G5 ?
 
Which brings us to playstyle. I don't stop to collect stuff just because I might need it later. That sucks. I'll determine what I want in terms of upgrades then go out and collect the mats.

You need to change with the times.

New Engineers rules means new playstile ..... collect mats as you are out and about because .... sooner or later ... you can use them or trade them for something you can use.

The game has changed. You have to accept that or ..... bang your head against the wall again and again and again ........
 
Sorry if this seems like a thread hijack, but just out of curiosity, if I pin a G5 mod, and buy a new module, whcih would obviously be unengineered straight off the shelf and bone stock, can I use remote workshop to roll mods on it through G1 --> G2 --> G3 --> G4 --> G5 if or when I have the materials for each roll?

Or would I need to roll G1 --> MAX, Pin / Roll G2 --> MAX, Pin / Roll G3 --> MAX, Pin / Roll G4 --> MAX, Pin / Roll G5 ?

When you pin a blueprint (for any engineered item) it includes all the details for G1-G5.
 

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thats what i did :)

you can also take legacy to her and they get swapped over to start of grade 3. i've done that to 5 of my ships so far.

for clarification: experimental's stay on the drive during upgrades

Oh! Good to know!
 
Which brings us to playstyle. I don't stop to collect stuff just because I might need it later. That sucks. I'll determine what I want in terms of upgrades then go out and collect the mats.

But you need to stop to see what stuff is there. Might as well pick it up. If you have collector limpets which you should do, then it takes no time at all.
 
Oh! Good to know!

The steps to that method are:

1. Go to Palin (once) and pin the DD blueprints. Mod the ship you're in while you're there, then fly back to bubble.
2. Use remote engineering to bring a drive to Grade 3
3. Fly to Deciat and apply the Experimental you want
4. Fly to a different station and continue the remote upgrading to Grade 5 (because you can't do remote engineering at an Engineer's base - I know, right?). The Experimental effect should remain.
5. Before all this though, make sure you've collected all the G1-G5 mats you think you'll need.

Or

1. Fly to Asterope and ship all your ships/drives you want upgraded to Copernicus Station. Go to bed.
2. Next day, 1-by-1, fly to Palin and convert your Grade 5 Legacy drives to Grade 4 "New" drives, spending only the Grade 5 materials (Pharmaceutical Isolators, Cadmium, and CIF), then apply the Experimental.
3. Profit! (after you fly back to bubble and have your ships shipped back. Go to bed)
 
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But you need to stop to see what stuff is there. Might as well pick it up. If you have collector limpets which you should do, then it takes no time at all.

What I found in the new update is that the cargo scoop actually works correctly now. Although the collector limpets are great, you don't necessarily have to have limpets on you to scoop up a "very rare" MAT you just stumbled onto. I don't even have a cargo rack on either Chieftain I own (but have an SRV), and I use them for MAT collecting, and have a wake scanner since KWS are now more profitable to sell than use.
 
The steps to that method are:

1. Go to Palin (once) and pin the DD blueprints. Mod the ship you're in while you're there, then fly back to bubble.
2. Use remote engineering to bring a drive to Grade 3
3. Fly to Deciat and apply the Experimental you want
4. Fly to a different station and continue the remote upgrading to Grade 5 (because you can't do remote engineering at an Engineer's base - I know, right?). The Experimental effect should remain.
5. Before all this though, make sure you've collected all the G1-G5 mats you think you'll need.

Wrong

Start with a Cutter

Before leaving for Palin, store all Class 8,7,6 Drives that need conversion/update

Fly to Palin

Transfer all stored drives 6A or better
While waiting update drive currently installed
When drives arrive, swap into Cutter and upgrade
Return to home base
Transfer updated drives back to base and re-install

Repeat with Orca for Class 4B/5/6B
Repeat with iCourier for Class 3/2

Adder for 3A/2D


Done

This is probably the fastest way to do large numbers of drives quickly that need conversion, G5 + Experimental

If you have enough mats for the lower grades, then using the Farseer conversion/experimental pinned method can be useful as well but will require more rolls.

Not that big of a deal.

I'm actually just taking my time doing one ship at a time as I use them.
 
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Wrong

Start with a Cutter
Wrong? Really? Because everyone owns a cutter? Everyone wants to care enough to Empire rank grind?
Let me guess, even when you are proven wrong, you're still right? Love the new generation... It's like the movie Idiocracy is coming true.
 
Wrong

Start with a Cutter

Before leaving for Palin, store all Class 8,7,6 Drives that need conversion/update

Fly to Palin
Transfer all stored drives 6A or better
While waiting update drive currently installed
When drives arrive, swap into Cutter and upgrade
Return to home base
Transfer updated drives back to base and re-install

Repeat with Asp for Class 4/5
Repeat with iCourier for Class 3/2

Done

Yeah, that's very correct. I wasn't able to use that method though because my Cutter has the 5A shield (from this thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ial-Cutter-and-Class-5-Shields-is-it-possible), which means I'm unable to swap out ANY modules unless I get rid of the shield generator, which obviously I'm not going to do.
 
Don't forget that you can't do his method if your cutter has the Twilight Sparkle paint job... Palin won't let you land. Hater.

You say that like you're joking, but actually I'm surprised FD hasn't got rid of the 5A shield mod for the Cutter in the name of "unintended consequences", like all the other removals of late.
 
My "gameplay" over the past week has been to equip 21 ships with "new" G5 DD including Drag Drives at Palin. Collecting the materials, using the material traders, grinding the credits to have the ships transported out there (35 Million just for the Corvette...), doing the upgrades...

Not "fun" at all.

But, I'm happy with the performance upgrade, so...where's the new content that will let me use them?

Thanks!

A simpler way would have been to just go out to Palin ONCE, in your best jump range ship, and the pin the Dirty Drives blueprint. Then for all your other ships:
1. Go to Felicity Farseer.
2. Strip the drive modification off and roll up grades 1-3.
3. Apply desired experimental effect (usually drag drives)
4. Go to any station, use the remote workshop, and finish rolling the drives up to/through 5.

This honestly doesn't take many more rolls/mats, and is MUCH quicker than traveling all the way out to Palin for every ship. This is what I've been doing for my whole fleet and it has been a major time saver. Besides, you need to visit Felicity anyway for the upgraded FSD range boosts, as well as possible minor overcharging of power plants (G1) and minor sensor weight reduction (G3).
 
A simpler way would have been to just go out to Palin ONCE, in your best jump range ship, and the pin the Dirty Drives blueprint. Then for all your other ships:
1. Go to Felicity Farseer.
2. Strip the drive modification off and roll up grades 1-3.
3. Apply desired experimental effect (usually drag drives)
4. Go to any station, use the remote workshop, and finish rolling the drives up to/through 5.

This honestly doesn't take many more rolls/mats, and is MUCH quicker than traveling all the way out to Palin for every ship. This is what I've been doing for my whole fleet and it has been a major time saver. Besides, you need to visit Felicity anyway for the upgraded FSD range boosts, as well as possible minor overcharging of power plants (G1) and minor sensor weight reduction (G3).
Hard to give up some of the rolls on legacy modules we spent hundreds of hours grinding the mats for... just to do it again on the whole fleet.
 
Only to Grade 3. Dude, how do you not know this?

Yes, so pin the dirty drive blue print while at Palin. Then for your other ships, go to Felicity, REMOVE the mod, reroll grades 1-3, and then add experimental effect. Then go to any station and finish the rolling up through 5 for the drives. Works like a charm.
 
This honestly doesn't take many more rolls/mats, and is MUCH quicker than traveling all the way out to Palin for every ship.

I shipped all my ships at once to Asterope once I had all the mats to convert my legacy G5 drives, then went to bed. The total time to do the mods was 10 minutes per ship including the travel time to-from Asterope to Palin. Plus no scrounging for the G1-G4 materials.

Lots of ways to skin this cat.
 
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