Zarek Null tried to broker a peace with the upper echelon of the exploration community, but after being denigrated by said upper echelon, the liberal intelligentsia swooped in and shut the talks down.
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Zarek Null tried to broker a peace with the upper echelon of the exploration community, but after being denigrated by said upper echelon, the liberal intelligentsia swooped in and shut the talks down.
You are not as funny/ intelligent/ witty/ important as you think you are. You're a damn scrub and Im pretty sure this comment from you gave me cancer (i'll bill you).
I wish the "super skilled" lads that "PVP" the menacing explorers would instead try thargoid combat. Though that may require getting out of a FDL
Rinzler killed a Hydra with a ** FDS, so better not say they are scrubs, seriously.
I just said they are scubs, for better or worse. If they want to chat about it, they can find me in Jotun
You can determine whether someone's a scrub by checking if they're on the passenger side of their best friends ride. Trying to holler at me.
They *know*, and yet continued to give *standard* advice for putting together a ship for the Expedition? They *know,* and yet they didn't push for people to build ships that can survive long enough to run, or even put up a fight in numbers? I think this is the point that 777Driver was trying to get across, but it got missed - a mass shooter is less likely to ply their trade in a location where they know everyone is armed, and it doesn't matter if they know how to shoot or not.
This is where the leadership has utterly failed, Ziggy, and Frontier even gave them the best tools in the shed for the job - the Kraits. You can build either version to be reasonably fast, reasonably armed, and reasonably defended, while still having a jump range somewhere north of 50 light years.
With most of the ships being in standard Exploration fit, the wolves don't need to bring PvP Death Machines - they can just bring exactly what I just described, and have the same net effect.
If disaster strikes later this year (and I am fairly certain that it will), the leadership will only have themselves to blame. They should have known, and they should have encouraged all participants to build for it. Had they done so, then the onus would be on the individuals who did not take that advice.
Please don't try to tell me that they pushed for defensible builds, Ziggy. I spent enough time in the Exploration forum to know that that simply isn't true.
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Well, there's plenty of threads and information about it, the problem was rather than 30-40% of the registrations came only 2-3 weeks before takeoff, and a large number of the joiners are first time explorers, and there's plenty of new players that bought it at the sale in December. They're still trying to figure out what engineering is about.
In December, the registration was only a few thousand (2-3,000 I think it was), then in the past 2 weeks, it was almost like a new 1000 players per day.
It is what it is, the Massacre at Pallaeni is now just a memory.
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They didn't push for defensible builds, since you don't need defensible builds in a private group. They pushed for CMDRs to go into Private Groups. Some CMDRs didn't heed that advice, and they are responsible for the choices they made.
The ships the CMDRs choose are based on what they prefer to explore in. They're not going to be cowered into builds they don't prefer because of some ding dongs. The ding dongs are powerless. The leadership decided not to let some gwankers dictate their playing style, and I for one completely agree with them. the gwankers are inconsequential. The only place where they are causing a stir is Dangerous Discussions. If some ding dong tags along and starts killing CMDRs later this year, he'll be kicked from the group, and the CMDRs that have fallen victim will be restored.
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and they should have encouraged all participants to build for it. Had they done so, then the onus would be on the individuals who did not take that advice.
You are in disagreement with Phisto here. The organisers adviced everyone to go into Private Groups, some went in Open, and it's still the organisers fault. Maybe you and Phisto should discuss this.
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(except for the npc-crew, if any,Massacre? Not a single CMDR died on that day
)We need a perma-death mode in the game!
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By the way ... I see a lot of non-participants blaming the organisers. I haven't seen a participant blaming the organisers. While it's the participants who were affected.
Don't be an idiot, am not glamorizing anything.. Of course it is all a waste of time, this is a computer game, this entire discussion is a waste of time. However, there is obviously a difference between dedicating a massive amount of time to join an expedition for it's intended purpose v hijacking an expedition so you can brag about flying across the galaxy just to shoot a bunch of newbies..
Like I have said multiple times, no issues with PvPer's or Gankers in the bubble. Flying across the galaxy to do it? Trust me I was being tame when I used the word pathetic..
At least Zarek is a straight up super nerd, some of his followers seem to think they are genuine gangsters. Get out of the house lads...
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Here's some comments from the last 3 pages of the big DWE2 thread, from CMDRs who are actually on the trip.
thx for organizing this i'm having a blast
Want to thank all the people involved in the admin of this, it must be absolute hell keeping up with everything, but you have my gratitude and respect.
Having a grand old time
I would like to thank the organizers of this event. It is certainly a huge amount of work to organize before the event and continues to be complicated during the event. Very grateful here; thank you!
My thanks to all those invloved, setting up this event.
But no less my thanks to all fellow travelers (admin and all to), who are making it happen.
It is already a rememborable journey
Having a blast even if I'm lagging behind, landed just outside the Moth for the night.
loving this already
So far... I haven't heard much complaints at all. Most participants accepted their fate, I think, and not making a big issue of it.
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Apparently you do, Zig.
If your build is bad that you have to menu log on NPCs and can't remember if your thrusters are strong enough to do their job, then it's time to re-evaluate your outfitting logic.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...l-your-story?p=7347125&viewfull=1#post7347125
Doubling down on the pejoratives are we? Never mind. Just let it all out, all the frustration, impotent rage and futile remonstrations, you're going to feel much better after it's run its course and you find yourself still confronted by the inevitable.
Oh btw, which is it? Did they "dedicate a massive amount of time" or are they complete noobs? Because from where I'm sitting, looking at my stats, I have in fact dedicated massive amounts of time engineering all of my various & sundry modules, and as long as I'm playing the same game by the same rules as everyone else, I can use them how I see fit, the same as everyone else.
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That's not the kind of defensible builds we were talking about. If you want to take part in meetings or any kind of planetary landings, adequate shields and thrusters are also necessary. From experience I know those are enough to evade NPCs.
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