that and finding a group, getting on vent and hearing them do nothing but complain
One Simple suggestion that could nullify the Solo/Open argument AND end the fear of Greifing
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that and finding a group, getting on vent and hearing them do nothing but complain
I love that solution but I am afraid it is utopia as we have the tools but I for one haven't heard of a pvp group with a volume that does not imply having only fully equipped pythons as active players in the group.
But... but... I like to say 'Hi!' to any real life commanders I see in the system.
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my and my group do nothing but praise the game on how much we like playing in private group and how much we love this game
It seems there is a huge fear of being ganked or griefed by other players.
Why is that so?
I'm pretty sure most of the people rejecting open play were never in any pvp situation at all.
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Why is that so?
I'm pretty sure most of the people rejecting open play were never in any pvp situation at all.
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Hehe, a good point. I think some PvPers might have trouble getting their heads around that concept though... that there are people who will actually be attracted to buy a game which is cooperative not competitive.
I will keep your group in mind....
lats group I was in the husband and wife started fighting.
I do. It's all either on the frontier website or the kickstarter or has been said many many times by FD staff either here on the forums or in interview.
Here is an example, as I am on the right PC for this.
riginally Posted by David Braben live interview with The Register
David Braben:
It is important that players enjoy the experience. We are writing this game for ourselves, and the fun of the game is the most important thing. Player-player encounters should be interesting, and part of this is the ability to hide - whether from other players or AIs.
Most of the ships you encounter will be AIs - and in many cases you will kill them - which is why we want the majority to be AIs. Generally speaking we expect players, even beginners, to be more of a challenge than an AI ship, and something that players will tend not to attack, but more cooperate with, and we are designing the bounty system (and others) to discourage PvP and encourage player cooperation.
See? Evidence. Now, let's see the other side's.
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errr lol .......I personally see far more players in open than when I am in solo if that helps.
Not necessarily. Many people coming to this game have prior experience in other MMO's. The audience for ED may tilt a little older than many other MMO's, but human nature doesn't change, and that's going to affect attitudes about how much PvP people do or don't want.
Probably because nobody has even stepped for to try to make something FOR the PvPers By the PvPers.
I'm an original 80's Elite player who generally steers clear of multiplayer games due to the seeming over abundance of teenage boys with maturity issues (eg I didn't realise how many 12 years olds had f*&ked my mum until I played Counterstrike...)
That said, I see solo in Elite Dangerous as an Easy mode. Nothing more, nothing less.
The AI is predictable and very beatable. Even as a pretty average player I run out of ammo at Nav Beacons long before I encounter something I can't kill. However, when I went to fight in the Conflict Zone in Sorbago I got nailed by a CMDR in mid battle (I ended up rebuying my ship and interdicting him leaving the combat zone, we duked it out and he eventually gave up.. probably because repairs and ammo wouldn't be worth killing me again!!)
I have no problem with people playing the game in Easy mode (Solo), especially if you love the zen of ETS2 style hauling, exploring or mining. That said, the thrill of meeting opponents who are unpredictable and probably very good makes this universe real for me.
My final comment echoes one of the above, apart from the conflict zone I've **never** seen another player online despite many dozens of hours play. My bet is if they secretly put all Solo players onto the Open servers they would probably never notice....
That said, I see solo in Elite Dangerous as an Easy mode. Nothing more, nothing less.
The AI is predictable and very beatable. Even as a pretty average player I run out of ammo at Nav Beacons long before I encounter something I can't kill. However, when I went to fight in the Conflict Zone in Sorbago I got nailed by a CMDR in mid battle (I ended up rebuying my ship and interdicting him leaving the combat zone, we duked it out and he eventually gave up.. probably because repairs and ammo wouldn't be worth killing me again!!)
I have no problem with people playing the game in Easy mode (Solo), especially if you love the zen of ETS2 style hauling, exploring or mining. That said, the thrill of meeting opponents who are unpredictable and probably very good makes this universe real for me.
My final comment echoes one of the above, apart from the conflict zone I've **never** seen another player online despite many dozens of hours play. My bet is if they secretly put all Solo players onto the Open servers they would probably never notice....
That is actually not true, I have seen at least 3 different threads where people have tried to start a PvP group. They get about 10 responses and then they die. This is because there are not enough pvp oriented people playing this game to support it, or the ones that say they want "pvp" don't actually want people ready to shoot back at them, they just want harmless people to prey upon.
Again and again this comment comes up and it is so true. I too haven't seen a player in ages. It honestly is no different from Solo. So, that being said. Why do the very vocal minority want solo closed down? Because even if they get their wish the galaxy is HUGE, they still won't have the barrel full of targets they think they will.
If you don't want to interact with other players, just go to solo mode.
I don't see what good hiding players among NPC's will accomplish?
People hiding in solo is a problem for some because it reduces interaction between players. Just as OP suggestion would.
As it stands, the open/solo choice is a good middle ground.
If you just want to play Elite: Space-Trucker and not have to worry about players trying to get you, then you go solo.
If you want some player on player action you bumble about in open, simple.
I don't see what good hiding players among NPC's will accomplish?
People hiding in solo is a problem for some because it reduces interaction between players. Just as OP suggestion would.
As it stands, the open/solo choice is a good middle ground.
If you just want to play Elite: Space-Trucker and not have to worry about players trying to get you, then you go solo.
If you want some player on player action you bumble about in open, simple.
Yeah. You could be right. There has to be a will... and there obviously isn't.
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Please define 'interaction'.
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