Open is BRUTAL...

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I had an appalling time in open this evening. Commanders were apologizing for popping in to a (persistent) USS, and even saying hello.

I mean it was utter chaos what with the endless hellos and salutes and excuse me and mind if I collect and don't mind me and all sorts of ridiculous and horrific politeness.

Just unbelievably terrible experience throughout.

*chuckles quietly in the background*

That's too much. I can't take this anymore. FD has to do nerf the politeness or I am going to play in solo.
How dare these people say hello to me.
Who do they think they are?
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I had an appalling time in open this evening. Commanders were apologizing for popping in to a (persistent) USS, and even saying hello.

I mean it was utter chaos what with the endless hellos and salutes and excuse me and mind if I collect and don't mind me and all sorts of ridiculous and horrific politeness.

Just unbelievably terrible experience throughout.

*chuckles quietly in the background*

Sounds pretty horrific:)

The OP and a bunch of the following responses pretty much echoes my experiences as well; most of the time, our fellow CMDR's are just happy to see someone who isn't an NPC!

As an aside...why are you chuckling in the background? Did Gluttony invade your account???
 
Depends where you are and who you meet of course, its kind of the Idea of open that you don't know whats coming. Theres good things and bad things, my recent expierence in Open can be best summed up in a Picture
http://abload.de/img/groupphotohopemrkfa.jpg
Granted that would have been possible in Group too :p

I hope whoever was supposed to bring the marshmallows didn't forget. That would be enough to send me exclusively to solo.
 
I love how positive this thread is, even if its knocking the ranters abit. Lol

It's refreshing compared to all the doom sayer threads!

I love both Open and Möbius.
Nearly everyone is friendly, really.
Met 1000s of CMDRs.
Only 1 attacked me for no reason.
 
Ever been to Manila, Phillipines? I've spent quite a bit of time there. Despite it having a really bad reputation for scammers, muggers, kidnappings, earthquakes, floods, and typhoons, and even communist seperatists and islamic terrorists I've never had a real problem there worse than a cabbie or street vendor trying to rip me off. You could conclude from my experience that Manila's reputation is undeserved, that it's not actually dangerous, and that fear mongerers who don't know any better have misrepresented it - which is exactly what the OP is arguing about open.

The fact is that Manila IS a dangerous place, there's areas where if you walk in you stand a good chance of being carried out in a bag (if at all). If you're not sensible and too trusting you CAN just disappear, you WILL get mugged, and you WILL have a generally bad day.

Similarly open IS the only place (barring incursions) you will get unwanted pvp attention or that you'll get griefed. No there's not a griefer hiding behind every nav beacon, noone (other than those critisising non-open players) ever claimed that, but there ARE griefers, there IS unwanted pvp, these are NOT required gameplay, and if you don't enjoy them you SHOULD be elsewhere.
 
Ever been to Manila, Phillipines? I've spent quite a bit of time there. Despite it having a really bad reputation for scammers, muggers, kidnappings, earthquakes, floods, and typhoons, and even communist seperatists and islamic terrorists I've never had a real problem there worse than a cabbie or street vendor trying to rip me off. You could conclude from my experience that Manila's reputation is undeserved, that it's not actually dangerous, and that fear mongerers who don't know any better have misrepresented it - which is exactly what the OP is arguing about open.

The fact is that Manila IS a dangerous place, there's areas where if you walk in you stand a good chance of being carried out in a bag (if at all). If you're not sensible and too trusting you CAN just disappear, you WILL get mugged, and you WILL have a generally bad day.

Similarly open IS the only place (barring incursions) you will get unwanted pvp attention or that you'll get griefed. No there's not a griefer hiding behind every nav beacon, noone (other than those critisising non-open players) ever claimed that, but there ARE griefers, there IS unwanted pvp, these are NOT required gameplay, and if you don't enjoy them you SHOULD be elsewhere.

Sounds like Open has emotionally scarred you. I'm not sure the OP is "arguing" anything, but simply sharing his recent experience. In MY experience, the situation he described is FAR more likely to happen then a player being griefed out or ganked out of the blue. Lately, the odds are better that you'll encounter violence in mobius:)
 
Ever been to Manila, Phillipines? I've spent quite a bit of time there. Despite it having a really bad reputation for scammers, muggers, kidnappings, earthquakes, floods, and typhoons, and even communist seperatists and islamic terrorists I've never had a real problem there worse than a cabbie or street vendor trying to rip me off. You could conclude from my experience that Manila's reputation is undeserved, that it's not actually dangerous, and that fear mongerers who don't know any better have misrepresented it - which is exactly what the OP is arguing about open. The fact is that Manila IS a dangerous place, there's areas where if you walk in you stand a good chance of being carried out in a bag (if at all). If you're not sensible and too trusting you CAN just disappear, you WILL get mugged, and you WILL have a generally bad day. Similarly open IS the only place (barring incursions) you will get unwanted pvp attention or that you'll get griefed. No there's not a griefer hiding behind every nav beacon, noone (other than those critisising non-open players) ever claimed that, but there ARE griefers, there IS unwanted pvp, these are NOT required gameplay, and if you don't enjoy them you SHOULD be elsewhere.
I might get hit by a car tomrorow, but I can't hide under my bed for the rest of my life.
 
Also reminds me of the concept of original sin. The fact that we have a choice between good and evil is what makes our choices important. If we're only given one choice, then being good loses any weight because we didn't choose it.

Exactly. I've always found that an interesting philosophical notion, although I never found it very convincing when it came to religious matters. But I digress... :p

This is basically the idea behind my ship name in my sig, with all due credit to John Steinbeck. :)
 
Sounds like Open has emotionally scarred you. I'm not sure the OP is "arguing" anything, but simply sharing his recent experience. In MY experience, the situation he described is FAR more likely to happen then a player being griefed out or ganked out of the blue. Lately, the odds are better that you'll encounter violence in mobius:)

Oh seriously, get over yourself. At what point does "don't enjoy pvp in my gametime and don't need to have it" turn into "emotionally scarred"? I mght as well accuse you of being "emotionally scarred" because you don't (or do) play pokemon go. Learn to distinguish between personal opinions and emotional trauma. Oh and fyi you are trying to make exactly the same argument by promoting the low occurance or griefing. I already acknowledged that the incidence of occurance is low, you however fail to acknowlede that no matter how low it is in open it's infinitley greater than elsewhere and in no way mandatory.

I might get hit by a car tomrorow, but I can't hide under my bed for the rest of my life.

Sure. Noone is "hiding" from pvp though. They're choosing to exclude it from their recreation because they don't enjoy it. Noone is scared of your pixel spaceship, we just don't want to play with it.
 
Oh seriously, get over yourself. At what point does "don't enjoy pvp in my gametime and don't need to have it" turn into "emotionally scarred"? I mght as well accuse you of being "emotionally scarred" because you don't (or do) play pokemon go. Learn to distinguish between personal opinions and emotional trauma. Oh and fyi you are trying to make exactly the same argument by promoting the low occurance or griefing. I already acknowledged that the incidence of occurance is low, you however fail to acknowlede that no matter how low it is in open it's infinitley greater than elsewhere and in no way mandatory.

Wow, did I hit a nerve or something? Sorry, Sandmann, I meant my post to be just a little tongue in cheek...also, what's wrong with pokemon go?
 
Wow, did I hit a nerve or something? Sorry, Sandmann, I meant my post to be just a little tongue in cheek...also, what's wrong with pokemon go?

Yeah, you hit the "I can't stand ignorant so&so's" nerve. Nothing wrong with pokemon go if that's your thing. It's a personal choice, which was the point I was making.
 
I've only ever played in open,

Only been attacked once and that was when I tried to escape from a pirate (a very polite one at that, I may add).
met up with him later at a station, and he was very chatty and polite.

In my experience, you are more likely to meet new friends, rather than enemies in Open.
You may get unlucky and meet some complete (fill in appropriate obsenity here), but I reckon you are more likely to get done over by a nasty NPC than a real person.

Take the plunge and enter into open
 
Well, I cannot comment if the Open is brutal or not. But I must say that the whole ED is totally BRUTAL, because I am at the holiday, with my notebook only and there are so nice opportunities to get rich, like some gem farming or similar. :(

P.S. Somehow I feel that the whole known Universe was invited to a BIG party and I did not received my invitation :(
 
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Yeah, you hit the "I can't stand ignorant so&so's" nerve. Nothing wrong with pokemon go if that's your thing. It's a personal choice, which was the point I was making.

Ignorant so & so's, eh? Well, if that's the way you want play it, ok by me. Personally, you kind of triggered my "I can't stand shivering, knock kneed little girly boys who can't hack it in Open so they have to take every opportunity to bash it whenever they can" nerve. Does that make us even?
 
Ignorant so & so's, eh? Well, if that's the way you want play it, ok by me. Personally, you kind of triggered my "I can't stand shivering, knock kneed little girly boys who can't hack it in Open so they have to take every opportunity to bash it whenever they can" nerve. Does that make us even?

Nope, it justifies my reaction though. What part of "personal choice" and "no right way to play" did you not get?
 
Ever been to Manila, Phillipines? I've spent quite a bit of time there. Despite it having a really bad reputation for scammers, muggers, kidnappings, earthquakes, floods, and typhoons, and even communist seperatists and islamic terrorists I've never had a real problem there worse than a cabbie or street vendor trying to rip me off. You could conclude from my experience that Manila's reputation is undeserved, that it's not actually dangerous, and that fear mongerers who don't know any better have misrepresented it - which is exactly what the OP is arguing about open.

The fact is that Manila IS a dangerous place, there's areas where if you walk in you stand a good chance of being carried out in a bag (if at all). If you're not sensible and too trusting you CAN just disappear, you WILL get mugged, and you WILL have a generally bad day.

Similarly open IS the only place (barring incursions) you will get unwanted pvp attention or that you'll get griefed. No there's not a griefer hiding behind every nav beacon, noone (other than those critisising non-open players) ever claimed that, but there ARE griefers, there IS unwanted pvp, these are NOT required gameplay, and if you don't enjoy them you SHOULD be elsewhere.

True, Open has the risk of PvP. As I said in another post, that is what made it more interesting for me:
Just my opinion, but what made the experience great for me was that he had the opportunity to cause harm, and chose not to do so. In this situation, at such close range, no ammount of chaff could have stopped his gimbals, and I wasnt running any SCB. It was like a Mexican standoff, but one that ended in having some tequila. If I could have toggled some 'can't touch this' switch it would not nearly have been as much fun to me.

Thats my personal preference. I didn't start this topic to debate which mode is 'better' or what others should or should not do in their free time. There are choices, and we should all pick the one we find most enjoyable. I do feel that things tend to get very polarised here, and often the dangers of Open do get overblown. My post was just intended to provide an example of my experience, that (even) in Open people generally tend to be pleasant. But if one finds the concept of (potential) PvP a negative in itself, I have no desire to try to either force or persuade someone to try Open. As one man said:"“the most improper job of any man [...] is bossing other men."

For the record, I have never been to Manila. Would love to, though!
 
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