Planet Zoo 2 Keep/Not Keep Game

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If we have a limited roster I would expect to be the base to be something like:
  1. Bear
  2. Wolf
  3. Lynx
  4. Ibex
  5. At least one of Fallow/Red Deer
  6. Swan
Then hopefully another bird like the mallard/stork/pelican or if more flighted birds are on the table, the Eurasian Eagle-Owl seems like the go to pick.
 
I really think (and hope) that all of the continents will get at least a ‘small base’ coverage of what I’d call their ‘charismatic megafauna’. Like the most recognisable basic land mammals from each continent.

We all know Africa’s multitude of megafauna, Asia too. But for example, I’d imagine Europe’s base game roster to look something like this:

Eurasian Brown Bear
Eurasian Lynx
European Bison
Red Deer
European Fallow Deer
Wild Boar
Red Fox
Eurasian Wolf

These are the bare minimum animals for base European coverage. Animals like the Alpine Ibex and Wolverine are big selling DLC animals, IMO, and probably will be held back for exactly that purpose. But the basic megafauna for Europe is this, and should be the coverage from base game!
I agree but i would say that with Aquatics and aviaries on the table for possible sequel DLCs things like the wolverine and ibex won't be as Big as a drive as they were in PZ 1. Plus you are only leaving out those two and the swan. I think all European animals should be in base game and then we could get some more interesting ones like the cappercaillie, Chamois, Alpine marmot, walrus, puffin, musk ox and things like birds and small mammals if the sequel improves on that.
 
Why doest it always have to be specifically european brown bear, but wild boar can be just a wild boar?
Not sure - cause of PZ1, that’s sorts the way they sorted things out. We had Grizzly and Himalayan Brown Bear, but the general Wild Boar.
 
Why doest it always have to be specifically european brown bear, but wild boar can be just a wild boar?
I don't know why it's so hard for people to accept that different people have different interests regarding species in subspecies? I mean, especially recently has that topic been brought up again and again.

Here's from me personally: I'm very familiar with brown bear subspecies, I can physically tell them apart, specifically European Brown Bear is animal very important and dear to me, not to mention how much is that exact subspecies present in all zoos in Eastern and Southeastern Europe, therefore I insist on its inclusion. Wild Boar is an neat animal that covers the niche, for me so just give me "a Wild Boar" and we're good. I realize that they look different in different parts of world (native ones in Middle East and India, and introduced ones from Aus and NA) but I don't care.

Why does it have to be consistent? We're all here asking for our personal wishes, which will, by design, be very subjective. If we need to get specific subspecies of Wild Boar, I'm counting on whoever cares for that or knows about it to insist on that, cause I won't. And that's perfectly fine.

I mean I understand there might be people who do try to be objective when they pick their rosters and wishlist, and sure that's fine as well, but there's no need to expect that same objectivity from others as given.
 
MOST IMPORTANT TO BRING BACK
RIOT IF NOT BACK
PLEASE BE BACK
OBVIOUS CASES TO COME BACK
DON'T CARE IF IT STAYS OR GOES
BACK IN OTHER VARIANT/CLOSE RELEVANT

STAY AWAY FOREVER PLEASE
WORST OF THE WORST, IF THIS RETURNS THEY MAKE A GRAVE MISTAKE
DO NOT PLAY WITH YOUR FOOD (EVEN WORSE THAN THE ORANGE COLOR)


Aardvark / Addax / African Buffalo / African Porcupine / African Elephant / African Leopard / African Penguin / African Spurred Tortoise / African Wild Dog / Aldabra Giant Tortoise / Alpaca / Alpine Goat / Alpine Ibex / American Alligator / American Bison / American Standard Donkey / Amur Leopard / Arctic Fox / Arctic Wolf / Asian Small-Clawed Otter / Asian Water Monitor / Babirusa / Bactrian Camel / Baird's Tapir / Bengal Tiger / Binturong / Black Rhinoceros / Black Wildebeast / Black-and-White Ruffed Lemur / Black-Tailed Prairie Dog / Blue Wildebeast / Bongo / Bonobo / Bornean Orangutan / Brown-Throated Sloth (The other Sloth) / California Sea Lion / Capybara / Caracal / Cheetah / Chinese Pangolin / Clouded Leopard / Collared Peccary / Columbian White-Faced Capuchin Monkey / Common Ostrich / Common Warthog / Common Wombat / Coquerel's Sifaka / Cougar / Cuvier's Dwarf Caiman / Dall Sheep (Bighorn Sheep) / Dama Gazelle / Dhole / Dingo / Dromedary Camel / Emu / Eurasian Lynx / European Badger / European Fallow Deer / Fennec Fox / Formosan Black Bear / Fossa / Gemsbok / Gharial / Giant Anteater / Giant Galapgos Tortoise / Giant Otter / Giant Panda / Greater Flamingo (American Flamingo) / Grey Seal / Grizzly Bear / Hamadryad Baboon (Gelada) / Highland Cattle / Hill Radnor Sheep / Himalayan Brown Bear / Hippopotamus / Indian Elephant / Indian Peafowl / Indian Rhinoceros / Jaguar / Japanese Macaque / King Penguin (Emperor Penguin) / Kirk's Dik-Dik / Koala / Komodo Dragon / Lar Gibbon / Little Penguin / Llama / Malayan Tapir / Mandrill / Maned Wolf / Markhor / Meerkat / Moose / Mute Swan (Black Swan) / Nile Lechwe (Waterbuck) / Nile Monitor / Nine-Banded Armadillo / North American Beaver / North Island Brown Kiwi / Nyala / Okapi / Pallas's Cat / Plain Zebra / Platypus / Polar Bear / Proboscis Monkey / Pronghorn / Przewalski's Horse / Pygmy Hippopotamus / Quokka / Raccoon / Red Deer / Red Fox / Red Kangaroo / Red Panda / Red River Hog / Red Ruffed Lemur / Red-Crowned Crane / Red-necked Wallaby / Reindeer / Reticulated Giraffe / Ring-Tailed Lemur / Sable Antelope / Saiga / Saltwater Crocodile / Sand Cat / Scrimitar-Horned Oryx / Siamang / Siberian Tiger / Sloth Bear / Snow Leopard / Somali Wild Ass (Onager) / Southern Cassowary / Southern White Rhinoceros / Spectacled Bear / Spectacled Caiman / Spotted Hyena / Springbok / Striped Hyena / Striped Skunk / Sun Bear / Sussex Chicken / Takin / Tamworth Pig / Tasmanian Devil / Thomson's Gazelle / Timber Wolf / West African Lion / Western Chimpanzee / Western Lowland Gorilla / Wild Boar / Wild Water Buffalo / Wisent / Wolverine
 
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MOST IMPORTANT TO BRING BACK
RIOT IF NOT BACK
PLEASE BE BACK
OBVIOUS CASES TO COME BACK
DON'T CARE IF IT STAYS OR GOES
BACK IN OTHER VARIANT/CLOSE RELEVANT

STAY AWAY FOREVER PLEASE
WORST OF THE WORST, IF THIS RETURNS THEY MAKE A GRAVE MISTAKE
DO NOT PLAY WITH YOUR FOOD (EVEN WORSE THAN THE ORANGE COLOR)


Aardvark / Addax / African Buffalo / African Porcupine / African Elephant / African Leopard / African Penguin / African Spurred Tortoise / African Wild Dog / Aldabra Giant Tortoise / Alpaca / Alpine Goat / Alpine Ibex / American Alligator / American Bison / American Standard Donkey / Amur Leopard / Arctic Fox / Arctic Wolf / Asian Small-Clawed Otter / Asian Water Monitor / Babirusa / Bactrian Camel / Baird's Tapir / Bengal Tiger / Binturong / Black Rhinoceros / Black Wildebeast / Black-and-White Ruffed Lemur / Black-Tailed Prairie Dog / Blue Wildebeast / Bongo / Bonobo / Bornean Orangutan / Brown-Throated Sloth / California Sea Lion / Capybara / Caracal / Cheetah / Chinese Pangolin / Clouded Leopard / Collared Peccary / Columbian White-Faced Capuchin Monkey / Common Ostrich / Common Warthog / Common Wombat / Coquerel's Sifaka / Cougar / Cuvier's Dwarf Caiman / Dall Sheep / Dama Gazelle / Dhole / Dingo / Dromedary Camel / Emu / Eurasian Lynx / European Badger / European Fallow Deer / Fennec Fox / Formosan Black Bear / Fossa / Gemsbok / Gharial / Giant Anteater / Giant Galapgos Tortoise / Giant Otter / Giant Panda / Greater Flamingo / Grey Seal / Grizzly Bear / Hamadryad Baboon / Highland Cattle / Hill Radnor Sheep / Himalayan Brown Bear / Hippopotamus / Indian Elephant / Indian Peafowl / Indian Rhinoceros / Jaguar / Japanese Macaque / King Penguin / Kirk's Dik-Dik / Koala / Komodo Dragon / Lar Gibbon / Little Penguin / Llama / Malayan Tapir / Mandrill / Maned Wolf / Markhor / Meerkat / Moose / Mute Swan / Nile Lechwe / Nile Monitor / Nine-Banded Armadillo / North American Beaver / North Island Brown Kiwi / Nyala / Okapi / Pallas's Cat / Plain Zebra / Platypus / Polar Bear / Proboscis Monkey / Pronghorn / Przewalski's Horse / Pygmy Hippopotamus / Quokka / Raccoon / Red Deer / Red Fox / Red Kangaroo / Red Panda / Red River Hog / Red Ruffed Lemur / Red-Crowned Crane / Red-necked Wallaby / Reindeer / Reticulated Giraffe / Ring-Tailed Lemur / Sable Antelope / Saiga / Saltwater Crocodile / Sand Cat / Scrimitar-Horned Oryx / Siamang / Siberian Tiger / Sloth Bear / Snow Leopard / Somali Wild Ass / Southern Cassowary / Southern White Rhinoceros / Spectacled Bear / Spectacled Caiman / Spotted Hyena / Springbok / Striped Hyena / Striped Skunk / Sun Bear / Sussex Chicken / Takin / Tamworth Pig / Tasmanian Devil / Thomson's Gazelle / Timber Wolf / West African Lion / Western Chimpanzee / Western Lowland Gorilla / Wild Boar / Wild Water Buffalo / Wisent / Wolverine
i need dhole and pronghorn
 
Now for the ones that still need to appear in Planet Zoo 2

TOP 10:
1: Secretary Bird
2: Reeve's Muntjac
3: Pelican
4; Tree Kangaroo
5: Gerenuk
6: Victoria Crowned Pigeon
7: Honey Badger
8: Shoebill
9: Aye-Aye
10: Leopard Seal

Walrus / Howler Monkey / Musk Ox / Manatee / Grey Crowned Crane / Ocelot / Serval / Echidna / Blackbuck / Gelada / Mara / Tamandua / Rhea / Greater Kudu / Alligator Snapping Turtle / Gaur / Marabou Stork / Pere David's Deer / Scarlet Ibis / Giant Eland / Southern Ground Hornbill / Bighorn Sheep / Chinese Giant Salamander / Fishing Cat / Mountain Goat / Roserate Spoonbill / Golden Pheasant / Giant Armadillo / Rock Wallaby / Mandarin Duck / Torrent Duck / Lyrebird / Wild Yak / Elephant Seal / Black Swan / Roadrunner / Marine Iguana / Waterbuck / Indian Giant Squirrel / Gray Fox / Siberian Musk Deer / Aoudad / Puffin / Capercaillie
 
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I chose these 132 animals, considering +18 flying birds to reach 150 animals as the standard animal roster of Planet Zoo 2

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Keep:
  • Addax
  • Alpaca
  • Binturong
  • California Sea Lion
  • Fennec Fox
  • Hamadryas Baboon
  • Malayan Tapir
  • North American Beaver
  • Red Fox - I'd be genuinely sad if they were cut
  • Red-Crowned Crane

Honorable Mentions:
  • Indian Rhinoceros
  • Maned Wolf
  • Platypus

Delete:
  • African Leopard
  • Aldabra Giant Tortoise
  • Bengal Tiger* (convert Siberian Tiger's model to generic Mainland Tiger)
  • Himalayan Brown Bear
  • Kirk's Dik-Dik
  • Koala* (convert to walkthrough exhibit animal if we still have those)
  • Quokka
  • Red Ruffed Lemur
  • Spectacled Caiman
  • Wisent

Miscellaneous:
  • Replace West African Lion with generic Southern (rather than Northern) Lion
  • Rename animals which are based on a specific subspecies without it being reflected in-game (e.g. Alaska Moose, Northwestern Wolf, Sichuan Takin, Ussuri Dhole)

New:
  • Atlantic Puffin
  • Black Howler Monkey
  • Greater Rhea
  • Green Sea Turtle
  • Kermode Bear
  • Mandarin Duck
  • Pacific Walrus
  • Secretary Bird
  • Southern Sea Otter
  • Tanuki
 
It's the longevity of the sequel.
Honest Question
Do you prefer that the game last longer, but along with them you see repeated species from the first game in the DLCs, instead of new species?

or you prefer the game, for example, to last only 2 years but with totally new species in each dlc?
 
Honest Question
Do you prefer that the game last longer, but along with them you see repeated species from the first game in the DLCs, instead of new species?

or you prefer the game, for example, to last only 2 years but with totally new species in each dlc?
Second option. I don't think the lifespan of the sequel could be predicted because we don't know if it is going to be as succesful as this one or in what situation the company will be by them so i rather get all new species and just a couple Old ones with new improved versions in DLCs than a Game lasting 8 years trying to complete the previous version's roster while at the same time adding new stuff. There just isn't time and space for both.
 
Honest Question
Do you prefer that the game last longer, but along with them you see repeated species from the first game in the DLCs, instead of new species?

or you prefer the game, for example, to last only 2 years but with totally new species in each dlc?
Longer, i fully expect that some previous animals show up in DLCs again, the orang utan strikes me as one of those. Keep it out from the basegame, let it headline a rainforest dlc or whatever and since the devs dont have to work on another hundred animals at the same time they can go bananas on the model and animations.

If they put previous animals in dlcs and use it to rework them thats fine for me.
If they do it with the porcupine or camel for example it would feel pretty bad, since they are already pretty much perfect and good to go
 
I would imagine PZ2 might involve reworking every animal to some extent, so wouldn't expect DLC for free

But I would hope they'd offer a discount for owners of existing DLC's
Steam already helps a bit towards this for bundles - if you offer DLC for PZ1 or PZ2 for £10 each, and a bundle of a DLC for both PZ1 & PZ2 for £12, existing owners would get to pay £2 as they already own part of the bundle

Not sure about animals I'd want to keep or lose - just aspects I'd like to improve (i.e why do I need 5 pools to keep my flamingos happy when they all feed from a single 1)
 
Honest Question
Do you prefer that the game last longer, but along with them you see repeated species from the first game in the DLCs, instead of new species?

or you prefer the game, for example, to last only 2 years but with totally new species in each dlc?
I don't really care about the length of official support as as the fundamental core gameplay is fun. If we're short on animals because of the compromised support period, the modding scene as act as a crutch. But modding scenes for games that aren't fun to play tend to not be very big :p
 
Same way as they work now.
I seriously dont get logic behing most comments. If there is not enough content for PZ2 DLCs then there is not enough content for 2024 and go on. It is simple as it is. I get it some people are against sequel, which is fine, but also arguments used against it are often straight up stupid lol.
I mean this that Doran says is so true, there are a lot of animals in the world and so ubique between each other that would bring a lot of content for at least another 4 years ( birds and aquatics incluedes )
 
Honest Question
Do you prefer that the game last longer, but along with them you see repeated species from the first game in the DLCs, instead of new species?

or you prefer the game, for example, to last only 2 years but with totally new species in each dlc?
It depends on what's missing from the base game. For example, is it really worth getting a walrus if we never get a gibbon back? I say no. A roster that's too different for the sake of it will end up unprioritized, with arguably bigger holes in it than PZ1's.
 
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Honest Question
Do you prefer that the game last longer, but along with them you see repeated species from the first game in the DLCs, instead of new species?

or you prefer the game, for example, to last only 2 years but with totally new species in each dlc?
Longer by a long shot. For me it's not even a question I have to think about. I'd rather have long support and the ability to improve the core mechanics of the game than to just have 2 years where we can barely provide any feedback but have all the species we had this time around from the start.

I mean this that Doran says is so true, there are a lot of animals in the world and so ubique between each other that would bring a lot of content for at least another 4 years ( birds and aquatics incluedes )
There's a lot of animals in the world and the vast majority of those people don't care about. That's the reality of the situation, both for real life zoos and zoo games.
 
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