Please consider renaming the Adder

Should Frontier Change the Name of the Adder?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 143 33.2%
  • No.

    Votes: 176 40.8%
  • I don't mind either way.

    Votes: 112 26.0%

  • Total voters
    431
Hi there.

I have seen the "Adder" which was added in Gamma 2.0 and I must say I am a little disappointed. Not because I think the ship has been "rushed", is "lazy", or "ugly" as some people are saying. In fact, I rather like the ship itself. However, I have an issue with the name of this ship. This ship is not the Adder from previous games. Each of the other ships from previous games, the sidewinder, cobra, eagle, anaconda, etc, have maintained the same overall aesthetics of the original ships, while updating them to amazing, modern standards. The adder, however, has diverged so much from the original design that it is unrecognisable as an adder.

The hard lines of the original are replaced with a rounded ship, with almost no flat surfaces, or hard edges, other than the wings.

There are wings. The original models never had wings to speak of, though the description does mention folding wings, which are stowed for spaceflight.

In addition, the stubby "winglike" parts of the original were centred vertically, while these are at the very bottom of the ship.

The striking wedge nose of the original has been replaced by a rounded, bulbous nose.

The window has become much wider and taller. While I appreciate that the game must consider pilot visibility, it is totally different to the original adder.

I include here a few versions of the Adder from previous Elite games, and also ED concept art and in game assets.

ArcElite Data Card. This was a fancier version of the original 1984 version from the BBC micro, built for a more powerful computer. The main difference for the ship was the solid polygons and colour, it maintained the same shape.
ArcElite_DataCard_Adder.jpg

It features here as the unfortunate victim in Frontier : Elite 2.
[video=youtube;9UMIbdN0UFE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UMIbdN0UFE[/video]

Then, in Frontier : First Encounters, it was updated graphically, remaining the same shape.
Adder.gif

During the development of Elite : Dangerous, the adder was featured in the newsletter.
The newsletter stated that
Overall the team are happy that the Adder is on the right track and that the new design retains the same feel as the original ship.

Finally, in Elite : Dangerous, Gamma 2.0, a ship was released, named the adder.
Adder.png

As I am sure you can see, the images from ArcElite, FE2, FFE, and the ED concept art all feel aesthetically similar, while the release model of the Adder in Gamma 2 is rather different. Something happened during development of the ship, since the concept phase, which caused FDEV to radically change the design. I suspect the desired to fit the ship to the Zorgon Peterson design style, which I feel they have done. However, that's means that it is now radically different from the original adder.

What I would like is a simple name change. The ship itself is fine. I don't want it scrapped and redesigned, I don't want it removed. However, this ship does not look like an adder to players who have seen adders from previous games. It's not the same ship, and should not share the same name.

TL;DR
I would ask FDEV to Please change the name of the adder to something else. It looks like a new ship, and should have a new name.

Thanks to anyone who read my wall of text :)
 
Good points, but I'm far more disturbed by the fact that the ship seems to rotate along an axes drawn through the pilots chair instead of the center of the ship. Even the stars seems to think the center of the ship is the pilots chair.. Its very off putting. I'm clearly sitting offset to one side yet it flys and feels like I'm dead center.
 
It somewhat resembles the Fiat Multipla

LOL.

I saw one of these last night and actually thought it was a new name for the Zorgon Peterson Hauler.

On the one hand, it just doesn't feel like Elite unless you're flying a toaster or a wedge of cheese. On the other hand, it's 2014 now and we can make ships out of more than 10 polygons. On the final hand (yes I grew an extra one) it does feel like a reskin of the Hauler rather than a new ship, but maybe that's the idea? Like those Ford Escort "vans" that are just the cars but with no rear windows?
 
Was looking through the spoiler examples one by one, seeing the clear line of evolution. Then expected something horrible for the final image, but it's super sexy! I want one now. >.>
 
I think that the concept art Adder looks horrible and I definitely would not fly a ship that looked like that. The newer is much better, in my opinion, as it actually has aesthetic value when not being viewed with nostalgia goggles.
 
I think that the concept art Adder looks horrible and I definitely would not fly a ship that looked like that. The newer is much better, in my opinion, as it actually has aesthetic value when not being viewed with nostalgia goggles.

Well the other original ships are instantly recognizable, the Adder thing however is not...
 
I think that the concept art Adder looks horrible and I definitely would not fly a ship that looked like that. The newer is much better, in my opinion, as it actually has aesthetic value when not being viewed with nostalgia goggles.

The point is it's supposed to be an Adder but looks nothing like it. Yes the original was ugly but that's not the point at all.
 
Was looking through the spoiler examples one by one, seeing the clear line of evolution. Then expected something horrible for the final image, but it's super sexy! I want one now. >.>

I think that the concept art Adder looks horrible and I definitely would not fly a ship that looked like that. The newer is much better, in my opinion, as it actually has aesthetic value when not being viewed with nostalgia goggles.


I never said that the ship looks bad. I rather like it. However, I think you can both agree that it does not look like the adder from previous games.
 
FD r clearly scrambling to meet the rushed release date for Christmas so this is the result a "stretched" or "bloated" Hauler so i agree, the name ADDER is ridiculous! It does have powerful weapons so call it the Strike Hauler or Hauler 2.O or im thinking of the winnabago from Spaceballs but Eagle 5 would not fit.

It does have a bulbous canopy so Dark Helmet or Cranium?

Im going to skip this ship anyway and just go Hauler to Cobra after my wipe yesterday.
 
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I like the current design but prefer the concept art version above it. My only criticism is that it's actually difficult to differentiate between it and the hauler when it's out in space flying as a player/NPC visually.
 
I think that the concept art Adder looks horrible and I definitely would not fly a ship that looked like that. The newer is much better, in my opinion, as it actually has aesthetic value when not being viewed with nostalgia goggles.
I wouldn't say the concept was horrible, but I definitely like the new design a lot better.
As far as what's called, I really don't mind if they changed it or not.
 
So many people appear to be misunderstanding my whole thread... -_-

Comments about liking the design are not really anything to do with the thread. I'm not trying to convince FDEV to redesign or remove it. I just want a renaming, as it does not look like an adder from the older games. Please don't vote "no" because you like the ship, it wouldn't be going anywhere, and shouldn't, it's a good ship.
 
So many people appear to be misunderstanding my whole thread... -_-

Comments about liking the design are not really anything to do with the thread. I'm not trying to convince FDEV to redesign or remove it. I just want a renaming, as it does not look like an adder from the older games. Please don't vote "no" because you like the ship, it wouldn't be going anywhere, and shouldn't, it's a good ship.

Getting a proper response will be difficult because people who have not played the original or don't have the nostalgia will be disconnected from your point, which is a lot of people.

I don't oppose a renaming but you'll probably get players that are disconnected with your point to disagree with a renaming as well because of my above point.
 
Unlike other ships from previous games, Adder's old design was nothing special. It was just a flying brick. The new Adder looks like a rounded space shuttle with more polygons. So my point is that it's still a flying brick.
 
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