Please stop driving newbies to private servers!

Open players aren't going to stop.
That's why there are many more players in solo and pg combined than in open.
5c their pp, undermine their pmf, bring more open only tears.
Open will never stop causing peeps rebuy's, no reason to stop ruining their pp or defeating their factions.
While they hide in the safety of open.
 
All of the best people to shoot are already in open— The dangerous ones who can fight back, and maybe even kill me.

I’m not going to miss a poorly flown/outfitted ship. There’s plenty of those left, trust me.

“Everyone’s moving to PG.”

5 years later, that is clearly a load of bee ESSSSSSSSSSS (You cant type the letter B, followed by S on the forum, apparently. GG Fdev.)
 
All of the best people to shoot are already in open— The dangerous ones who can fight back, and maybe even kill me.

I’m not going to miss a poorly flown/outfitted ship. There’s plenty of those left, trust me.

“Everyone’s moving to PG.”

5 years later, that is clearly a load of bee ESSSSSSSSSSS (You cant type the letter B, followed by S on the forum, apparently. GG Fdev.)
Im in two PGs, logged into 1 of them once, 2nd one hasnt been used
 
Thirty years ago when I went to the gym, I saw mostly buff younger guys and female athletes. Now when I go, I see the former, but also the fat, the middle-aged and elderly. It is incredibly inspiring to me to see all these everyday folk striving to improve themselves, not only the naturally genetically gifted. I see old ladies asking for advice and young men being kind and helping them.

Open mode, is not a Utopia and should not be. However in its current state, Open is a lot like the gym was thirty years ago with a very limited demographic. I will probably never meet those savvy Commanders who cannot be bothered to engineer, in Open. To some that's fine, for me it's a pity.
 
Open players aren't going to stop.
That's why there are many more players in solo and pg combined than in open.
5c their pp, undermine their pmf, bring more open only tears.
Open will never stop causing peeps rebuy's, no reason to stop ruining their pp or defeating their factions.
While they hide in the safety of open.
the best part about this is that most of the big name gankers don't play BGS, it's way too slow and boring for their tastes to play a game that moves on a pace of days and weeks. That's not to say that they can't, but.. well, look at SDC's PMF. I don't think they've bothered maintaining influence for years even in their home system.
 
the best part about this is that most of the big name gankers don't play BGS, it's way too slow and boring for their tastes to play a game that moves on a pace of days and weeks. That's not to say that they can't, but.. well, look at SDC's PMF. I don't think they've bothered maintaining influence for years even in their home system.
LOL True enough. Just trying to get a rise .
A big name?
Is that like GANKER?
 
Its really hurting the guys that actually want to pirate and role play. Some traders love it! The guy that needs to git gud is the ganker! There was a great PvP battle between the FEDS and IMPs tonight. This is where the PvP should be at. I am sure fighting another player ship geared for PvP was to much for this ganker.

PP and BGS wars in open are a hell of alot of fun. I don't want to see guys coming into the game forced to PGs. Us PvPrs want guys in open. I want to fight my BGS player faction wars in open. I want UM to occur in open.

Its like boxing. Do you want to box someone your own weight for competition? Instead, the ganker wants to box a 8 year old little girl because he knows he can win and knock her ass out with one punch. Maybe that's fun for some but your hurting us all in the end. We seen it last year. Numbers in open went down for us PvP players. Still only prime time fights going on.
 
Its really hurting the guys that actually want to pirate and role play. Some traders love it! The guy that needs to git gud is the ganker! There was a great PvP battle between the FEDS and IMPs tonight. This is where the PvP should be at. I am sure fighting another player ship geared for PvP was to much for this ganker.

PP and BGS wars in open are a hell of alot of fun. I don't want to see guys coming into the game forced to PGs. Us PvPrs want guys in open. I want to fight my BGS player faction wars in open. I want UM to occur in open.

Its like boxing. Do you want to box someone your own weight for competition? Instead, the ganker wants to box a 8 year old little girl because he knows he can win and knock her out with one punch. Maybe that's fun for some but your hurting us all in the end. We seen it last year. Numbers in open went down for us PvP players. Still only prime time fights going on.
I remember the opening month of ED.
Interdicted several times. Asked for cargo or laughed. Great times.
I had three rebuy's. In one week, lost it all put back in a sidey.
Went to solo , then pg. Never looked back.
Don't waste time in open.
Open only offers combat. Nothing to do with the game.
 
There are three modes in this game. Every one is a a valid way play the game. Every player chooses which one to use. This decision can be changed anytime by logging back into another mode, without loss, without setbacks or changing player group.
We don't have private servers where everything is gated away from the rest and where your progress stays. We can just choose which players have a chance to be part of our game.

This is really all, isn't it?
 
I don't see how the game could be balanced if cargo ships couldn't efficiently flee an encounter. Wouldn't it just mean near certainly fatal consequences to space truckers and still no consequences to G5 combat ships?

it would mean traders would need an escort. and that there would be real consequences for the pirate if things went south. and probably that loosing a ship would mean actually loosing a ship. oh and it also would mean a decent an working network stack with predictable instancing mechanics and minimal cheat avoidance.

know what? that's a whole lot of work, and it's actually very complex to get right. just mashing some bits together and sticking the "pvp" label on the box is fine enough to keep the shop going. op is understandably upset but he's complaining at the wrong people, and had wrong expectations from the game 🤷‍♂️
 
I love that open has been more populated. For awhile a lot of guys were on PG groups. I remember a year ago I could hit all the engineers and not see another player. Now I see players all over. I received this message on discord from a new player. He's now off of open and off to a private group. He is not the only one that has done this in the past week on our discord. Keep at it guys! You won't have anyone to kill soon.

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That is not a "Noob Player" a un-perpaired or dumb yes, but not a Noob!
 
First. I don't understand why he can't be a noob. All I see everywhere is, - go painite mining, and you'll be in an'aconda in less than a week. So basically, there's a very real chance that this player is a noob.
Second. It is NEVER the victims fault that he/she is blown to pieces. It is always the fault of the attacker - as he/she is the instigating factor. Is it allowed within the rules - yes, but it cannot ever be the fault of the victim. All the victim can be guilty of, is putting him/her in a situation where its more or less likely to be ganked (see 3rd point).
Third. The real problem here is that the entire universe is in effect anarchy. There's no such thing as High Security - Medium Security etc. There's only no security and rediculous low security. If security forces were actually effective (as in, do assault in high sec, and you're minced meat - less so in medium etc.), those haulers/miners actually had a choice of risk<>reward. But as it is now, risk is never changing, so might as well go for maximum reward. Only way to mitigate risk is solo/PG.
 
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