Post your weird systems!
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A very tight binary pairing with a main sequence star has to be one of the few--and maybe only--configurations possible for an ELW to orbit a brown dwarf. Great find!
Ian Phillips
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Just a question for anyone with more knowledge than me about this.....
The description states that the atmosphere is "human breathable" but the atmosphere composition states that the oxygen content is just 6%.
Could we really breath that?
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Same. I wasn't sure if this was odd or not:
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You could breathe it, but your brain would become starved of oxygen in short order and you would fall unconscious. Being unable to do anything about it, you would then die.
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It's a perfectly safe mixture to breathe (assuming the trace gases aren't dangerous) but humans require a minimum of about 19.5% oxygen in the mix for survival. However I believe that is assuming 1 atmosphere, I don't understand the biology behind it but I think those mixtures may change at different atmospheric pressures (i.e. the 3.7 atmospheres on that ELP).
Ian Phillips
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I've had a look and found these items about oxygen concentrations and breathability.
Basically it comes down to getting enough oxygen into the blood which is (mostly ?) determined by the partial pressure of oxygen:
partial pressure = total absolute pressure × volume fraction of gas component
So, PP = 3.7 x 0.6 = 0.222 as opposed to roughly 0.21 for earth sea level. Pretty much earthlike, although I haven't found anything about the effects of (increased) atmospheric pressure on the lungs.
From an article about diving gas mixtures: "The minimum safe partial pressure of oxygen in a breathing gas is commonly held to be 16 kPa (0.16 bar)"
Thanks - interesting side topic.
Basically it comes down to getting enough oxygen into the blood which is (mostly ?) determined by the partial pressure of oxygen:
partial pressure = total absolute pressure × volume fraction of gas component
So, PP = 3.7 x 0.6 = 0.222 as opposed to roughly 0.21 for earth sea level. Pretty much earthlike, although I haven't found anything about the effects of (increased) atmospheric pressure on the lungs.
From an article about diving gas mixtures: "The minimum safe partial pressure of oxygen in a breathing gas is commonly held to be 16 kPa (0.16 bar)"
Thanks - interesting side topic.
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3.7 earth atmospheres is the ambient pressure at about 27m under the sea and I've found that to be perfectly tolerable for short periods. Not sure what the long term effects of trying to live there would be, a 15 litre tank of air only lasts so long, and you can't spend too long at that depth without needing decompression stops on the way up.
Yeah actually my first comment was going to be that the atmospheres would be the hard part of that more than the breathing mix.
Im sort of guessing that life on that planet would be fairly normal, until you tried to leave. Youd have to adjust to the higher atmosphere, but youd probably be fine, I think you wouldnt be able to come to a lower atmosphere pressure (like earth) without adjusting to it, like a diver coming up from depth. you wouldnt need an air tank to live there if your math is right, but as iain said, youd need decompression stops if you tried to leave it.
Just a guess.
It's an HMC RAINBOW.
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I've seen some weird systems, but I don't have the details to hand right now...including one with 3 Herbig Ae/Be stars in it - given how rare they are, to find three in one system was a treat.
Here's a snap as I flew towards one of the Herbig Ae/Be and its orbiting stars in that system:
So, just as a placeholder to remind me of this thread, I'll share this planet and its super-close orbiting moon - this photo is not a trick of perspective, it was a small planet and moon, and I was pretty close to them (and I have a video of a fly-through too, but not processed or uploaded yet).
-- Pete.
Here's a snap as I flew towards one of the Herbig Ae/Be and its orbiting stars in that system:
So, just as a placeholder to remind me of this thread, I'll share this planet and its super-close orbiting moon - this photo is not a trick of perspective, it was a small planet and moon, and I was pretty close to them (and I have a video of a fly-through too, but not processed or uploaded yet).
-- Pete.
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EDIT: Put links to videos of all systems (links jump you to the correct time)
Ok, here are some of mine
Living water world round a carbon star. It is so dim: https://youtu.be/LX8S0RQcxVE?t=353
Living water world round an L dwarf - personal favourite. I wish the light rendered red : https://youtu.be/LX8S0RQcxVE?t=1094
Super storm around an ELW in a nebula - favourite ELW to date! https://youtu.be/LX8S0RQcxVE?t=1449
Ammonia world with the weirdest stats... https://youtu.be/AsYFEEihVNQ?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=833
Tiny gas giant - I got so close to this storm! https://youtu.be/AsYFEEihVNQ?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=1294
An ammonia world with life around a T Tauri...? <70mya old... https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=51
Pumpkin planet! From two orientations! AH! https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=122
Largest ring system I've ever seen - could clearly see it from its star over 3000ls away! https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=717
Water worlds with multiple suns. The first has two, the second actually has 4 although it's hard to make out from that distance: https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=792 and https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=930
ELW only 3.66ly away from Sag A*... https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=1949
Big brothers with little brothers https://youtu.be/zX4xGr3K2NA?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=250 and https://youtu.be/Ig4BBreVXHQ?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=332
Weird ammonia world without any atmosphere: https://youtu.be/zX4xGr3K2NA?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=661
Two black holes right next to eachother. Check out the lensing overlap - not released yet
And finally (for now) my joint favourite ELW - 2,784ly above Sag A* (and only 10ly to the left and 80ly forwards). The highest and most middle ELW, with the most epic view in the galaxy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01GyyXR4UPE&index=9&list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH
Ok, here are some of mine
Living water world round a carbon star. It is so dim: https://youtu.be/LX8S0RQcxVE?t=353
: https://youtu.be/LX8S0RQcxVE?t=1094
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I bet that when the natives develop telescopes, they'll be selling like hotcakes!! Great find, CMDR!
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That's bigger than the ring system in my bathtub when I was in college! Wow!
Those are some gorgeous shots and weird systems! Thanks for sharing, CMDR!
Almost as big as Eric Pickles ring......
Har har you wish. and pleasure!
*facepalm*
EDIT: Put links to videos of all systems (links jump you to the correct time)
Ok, here are some of mine
Living water world round a carbon star. It is so dim: https://youtu.be/LX8S0RQcxVE?t=353
Living water world round an L dwarf - personal favourite. I wish the light rendered red
Super storm around an ELW in a nebula - favourite ELW to date! https://youtu.be/LX8S0RQcxVE?t=1449
Ammonia world with the weirdest stats... https://youtu.be/AsYFEEihVNQ?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=833
Tiny gas giant - I got so close to this storm! https://youtu.be/AsYFEEihVNQ?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=1294
An ammonia world with life around a T Tauri...? <70mya old... https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=51
Pumpkin planet! From two orientations! AH! https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=122
Largest ring system I've ever seen - could clearly see it from its star over 3000ls away! https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=717
Water worlds with multiple suns. The first has two, the second actually has 4 although it's hard to make out from that distance: https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=792 and https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=930
ELW only 3.66ly away from Sag A*... https://youtu.be/J8faTBSLoCk?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=1949
Big brothers with little brothers https://youtu.be/zX4xGr3K2NA?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=250 and https://youtu.be/Ig4BBreVXHQ?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=332
Weird ammonia world without any atmosphere: https://youtu.be/zX4xGr3K2NA?list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH&t=661
Two black holes right next to eachother. Check out the lensing overlap - not released yet
And finally (for now) my joint favourite ELW - 2,784ly above Sag A* (and only 10ly to the left and 80ly forwards). The highest and most middle ELW, with the most epic view in the galaxy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01GyyXR4UPE&index=9&list=PLmZswJzvjc8eGygYrJNJfyFiOj58WjkwH
I've updated this post with video links to all of the systems (the links take you to the exact right place in the videos)
I think the latest Deep Space Survey - Ep 7: Impossible Worlds suits this thread perfectly
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This pair of binary pairs
Two class B stars orbiting each other, A class A and a T-Tauri orbiting each other, both pair orbit each other, and a huge Class A star orbits the whole mess (And a planet is circling around the mess somewhere)
The star that can be seen in the middle is the orbiting class A star, it is very huge as that picture is 2000ls from the star.
Two class B stars orbiting each other, A class A and a T-Tauri orbiting each other, both pair orbit each other, and a huge Class A star orbits the whole mess (And a planet is circling around the mess somewhere)
The star that can be seen in the middle is the orbiting class A star, it is very huge as that picture is 2000ls from the star.
Following just minutes before my last extraordinary finding, i find this beautiful and rather rare, ringed t-tauri star.
The asteroid field was gorgeous.
If i keep finding stuff like this at this rate, i will not reach my goal, which one could argue isn't that bad, but i really want to get there today as this is the only time i probably will get to play this whole week.
The asteroid field was gorgeous.
If i keep finding stuff like this at this rate, i will not reach my goal, which one could argue isn't that bad, but i really want to get there today as this is the only time i probably will get to play this whole week.