Powerplay 2.0 Activities
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Domestic Appliances from Athena (Powell) 428CR -> Varpet (Klink) 1015CR AS for Winters - 88Merits for 288T
Tried trade earlier from a non-support system and as Ian says, does nothing.
(Man, trying to find routes from supporting systems with 40% profit is not easy. And the payout you get ...)
Tried trade earlier from a non-support system and as Ian says, does nothing.
(Man, trying to find routes from supporting systems with 40% profit is not easy. And the payout you get ...)
Based on these I've added the sourcing requirement, which I hadn't noticed until now..
I'm starting to think we should assume there is an undocumented sourcing requirement by default, and give ourselves the task to prove otherwise. Honestly this requirement does fit with lore and it's by far the more sensible way around you'd design it in code, which would then also explain why the copywriting for doco failed to keep up.
Looking at Acquisition, the only activity delivering to the AS which (apparently) doesn't have to be sourced in the supporting system (that I can see) is the flood markets with low value goods one. Maybe it's worth confirming that just to be sure!
Is there a minimum volume requirement for the "flood market with low value goods" ?
So far as I can tell, with two exceptions all plain Acquisition tasks which could involve inter-system transport in the first place have a "between there and the supporting system" requirement, whether documented or not
- rare goods didn't previously (and it wouldn't have made much sense for them to) but who knows what they'll come back as
- because most support missions don't involve travel, the one type which could (reactivations) is also a "same system" one instead
For Reinforcement tasks, mining is anomalous in having the same-system requirement as all other tasks don't seem picky at all.
For Undermining tasks, mining is anomalous in having the same-system requirement, as for most other things collected in an undermining system without immediate payout the rule is "return to a friendly system".
Yes. It's marked as conflict-only and Kaine doesn't get into many of those, so I've not been able to test yet. Definitely worth testing if someone else does have a conflict going.
I'd go for at least a few tonnes at once in case you get rounded to zero, but otherwise, no. 10t should be more than enough to see if it works or not.
Selling at < 500CR in a Conflict AS:
Hydrogen 84CR Mbambiva (Stronghold Carrier) -> LTT 4337 (conflict AS) Wang Port 80CR for winters (so - a loss. Demand was only 1T) : 288merits/288T
Markets are weird as when I have no Hydrogen Fuel onboard (before and after) I see this, so expect a (small) profit:
edit: Actually no - I was looking at the Buy page not the Sell page - oops
Hydrogen 84CR Mbambiva (Stronghold Carrier) -> LTT 4337 (conflict AS) Wang Port 80CR for winters (so - a loss. Demand was only 1T) : 288merits/288T
edit: Actually no - I was looking at the Buy page not the Sell page - oops
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Bulk flood allows selling back into a system which supplies the good in the first place (fortunately, or it'd be really difficult to find anything which worked on a lot of markets), so the sale price is going to be less than the offered purchase price.
Now if you just buy H-Fuel somewhere else for LTT 4337, does that work?
I'm pretty sure I got merits for divesting limpets in advanced repairs on at least one occasion, so (if that's so) you possibly don't even need to go via the marketplace.
Was on my way
Tiptree beacon in Hofada (AS system): Hydrogen Fuel 84CR -> 6ly -> LTT 4337 (conflict AS) Wang Port : 288merits/288T
So it seems that doesn't have the same constraints
Kaine is the opponent in LTT 4337 btw, so you can check it out yourself if you want a test system
Yes, selling and rebuying your limpets is free merits if that's an option (once, of course, since it doesn't count ones from the same station, and the amount involved is too inconvenient for me to ever remember to do it...)
Selling at < 500CR in a Conflict AS:
Amalangkan Doi Landing (Mahon Exploited) Hydrogen Fuel 90CR -> 30Ly -> LTT 4337 (conflict AS) Wang Port 80CR : 244merits / 246T
So it looks like it doesn't care about proximity (over 30 Ly) - probably can source from anywhere
Amalangkan Doi Landing (Mahon Exploited) Hydrogen Fuel 90CR -> 30Ly -> LTT 4337 (conflict AS) Wang Port 80CR : 244merits / 246T
So it looks like it doesn't care about proximity (over 30 Ly) - probably can source from anywhere
Well, flippin' eck.
I am handing this in at an Edmund Mahon system 50+ ly away from HIP 38747.
120 merits Fortification. 3000+ merits for lil ol' me. (Missed the number as it flashed up.)
So yes you can hand in your Undermining power cargo thingies anywhere!
So yes you can hand in your Undermining power cargo thingies
Hate to be pedantic about this, but since FDev chose to make this whole thing unnecessarily obtuse and convoluted, just one word can make the difference as to whether or not the activity is valid / will reward Merits and/or Control Score.
Discovered an interesting and unexpected effect of Undermining.
An enemy Galactic Power had taken control of a system I didn't want them to be in control of, achieving "Exploited" status. Through group effort, we managed to undermine the system until the "Current Cycle Progress" triangle on the Powerplay Information panel was pushed into the grey "Unoccupied" zone just before Thursday's server tick.
My expectation was, on returning to the game Thursday morning, this enemy Galactic Power would have lost control of the system (i.e. no longer "Exploited") but still have it in an "Acquisition" state. I thought their Control Score would be equal to what it was just prior to the weekly tick minus the undermine score my group had managed to amass.
Au Contraire! To my pleasant surprise that enemy Galactic Power has been chased from the system completely! It has reverted to a fully "Unoccupied" state. This means that the investment of 120,000 Control Score that it took the enemy Galactic Power to gain control of the system was immediately wiped out, in one fell swoop, by simply undermining enough to push it into the "Unoccupied" portion of the Powerplay Information panel's "Tug of War" meter.
Do with that as you will o7
An enemy Galactic Power had taken control of a system I didn't want them to be in control of, achieving "Exploited" status. Through group effort, we managed to undermine the system until the "Current Cycle Progress" triangle on the Powerplay Information panel was pushed into the grey "Unoccupied" zone just before Thursday's server tick.
My expectation was, on returning to the game Thursday morning, this enemy Galactic Power would have lost control of the system (i.e. no longer "Exploited") but still have it in an "Acquisition" state. I thought their Control Score would be equal to what it was just prior to the weekly tick minus the undermine score my group had managed to amass.
Au Contraire! To my pleasant surprise that enemy Galactic Power has been chased from the system completely! It has reverted to a fully "Unoccupied" state. This means that the investment of 120,000 Control Score that it took the enemy Galactic Power to gain control of the system was immediately wiped out, in one fell swoop, by simply undermining enough to push it into the "Unoccupied" portion of the Powerplay Information panel's "Tug of War" meter.
Do with that as you will o7
@Ian Doncaster, is selling mined goods treated the same as selling for high profits for the 50% bonus? Since it's technically 100% profit.