Goose4291
Banned
The best thing is, half of the people opposing these powerplay changes wont get this meme, as they dont powerplay.
Powerplay should not be made Open-only. Here's why... [EDITED]
- Thread starter Genar-Hofoen
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The best thing is, half of the people opposing these powerplay changes wont get this meme, as they dont powerplay.
Sure just take it, do you want engineers too? I'd be happy with the new vanilla ED. Let's be honest, PP was crap anyway, and it'll only be worse off with no1 in solo doing all the work, if the map moves an inch in a year I'd be shocked. Let's keep Mother upright in the rocking chair, no she's not dead, just err.. sleeping!
Sadly Goose, I think that is true of both sides.
Sterling MH
Banned
Uh, because I am good. Bruce Lee didn't go round the farmers fields beating people up to prove he was good like Chuck Norris. I don't have to go open.
Why do you have to make people go to open if you're good? They won't be a challenge for you if you were good. That you need noobs there raethr indicates what you know about your abilities. You need someone new who might lose against you.
Goose4291
Banned
What's stopping the vast majority of these purely solo or private commanders from entering open when they want to participate actively in pp? It's not like its forcing them to only play in open. But it does force them to consider the risk vs any potential reward.
Risk v reward. That alone should be enough to put pp into open only.
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I think you just actually answered your own question? Like you've just explained why powerplay in open is actually much less of a deal. Space is big. People can't be everywhere at once. People will still get through, even if some fall.
Haha indeed.
Don't take this the wrong way as it's not meant as an insult but every time I scroll down a thread today and see your name I think Rubberduckie and can't help picturing and bunch of grown ups in the tub with bubble bath chucking rubber ducks at each other and shaking their fists at each other and water splashing everywhere!
Makes me chuckle...lol
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Sterling MH
Banned
Open. Go read my post again. This time read all the words.
I think this makes for a (yet another?) good reason why competent, lethal NPCs have their selective places of need in the game. Powerplay conflict zones or similar that scale in difficulty for "payout" regardless of mode would be nice, I think. People still get their apt pew-pew on, get some PVP, if that's what they're after, and get a competent, meaningful challenge, rewarded accordingly regardless of mode.
These are the sort of solutions I would much rather prefer seeing in the game. I don't play in solo to be safe, I play in solo because I play by different, more challenging and apt (in my opinion) standards than what the game allows for. This isn't just a large, frivolous respawn arena for me. That isn't the sort of game I'm particularly interested in playing. Thankfully, solo at least allows me to play by more challenging and meaningful standards within the game universe.
These are the sort of solutions I would much rather prefer seeing in the game. I don't play in solo to be safe, I play in solo because I play by different, more challenging and apt (in my opinion) standards than what the game allows for. This isn't just a large, frivolous respawn arena for me. That isn't the sort of game I'm particularly interested in playing. Thankfully, solo at least allows me to play by more challenging and meaningful standards within the game universe.
lol!
Sterling MH
Banned
I am going to admit I know all the words to the Rubber Ducky song from Sesame Street.
Yup. ATR are already there for C&P.Just have them spawn if the commander is winged up or engineered up to find normal NPCs easy. Then there is no loss of "competition" solo, PG or Open.
For some reason Open don't comprehend that NPCs are part of both PG and Solo gameplay. Weird.
You read my disclaimer, yes? What am I taking? There's literally zero reason you cant join open specifically when you want to engage in pp activities.
Again, risk v reward. Where's the risk in private or solo? Hint:there is none.
You seem to be taking some liberties with quantities here. Many more solo/group vs. a few PvPers and very very small number of 'willing' PvErs. Where did you get this info?
In it's current form, PP is not considered equal by any of the powers that I'm in contact with on Discord, Reddit or (by the looks of it) these forums.
Sterling MH
Banned
Do you? I don;t think you have any information to lea you to that.
I explained why PP in solo is much less of a deal. Therefore there's no "lack of opposition" in solo PP. We aren't hiding there from threats, we're not interested in playing with you. Even PG feel the same. So you do you, we'll do us, and leave PP for all three modes.
Genar-Hofoen, out of the two quotes we have here, by any logic I cannot see any evidence. Nor can I understand your resoning, since your arguing seems, no offense very threadbare and unspecific.
-------Taken in the context of the date - 3 years ago
-------taking into account the P2P nature of the game
-------taking into account it was an announcement of this new fangled Thing called Powerplay which was going to be added to E
-------taking into account that Frontier repeatedly claimed "all client connectivity modes are equal"
"Micheal's quote was explicitly ensuring that players knew that Powerplay could be played whilst in solo or private group client connectivity mode - also, seeing as the PP gameplay basically reflects the BGS gameplay - i.e. PvE movement of tokens".
Genar-Hofoen, I do agree, PP was meant to be a PvE activity as much as it was invented for Consensual PvP. It was and still is meant to be played over the modular sandbox, via all three modes. PP is not getting a PvP ONLY face lift, Frontier is however considering seriously the first premium mode contend, in this case exclusively in Open. If you whish, PP is (still) pure PvE for you in Open. Its still the very same thing.
Bad P2P nature isn't much of a thing not in any way related to the upcoming decision, Hell they decided to make it so (Elite) so we play it that way. Or move on.
Frontier may or may not abandon their single shared galaxy soon, thats all.
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Sterling MH
Banned
Got any better? There's a very very old post, as easy for you to find as anyone else, where there was a poll. 12% willing PvPers IIRC. If I don't, then go look it up and correct me.
Nice try but quoting without context does not work :
[We're giving players a reason to engage in PVP against supporters of other factions, and a chance to feel like part of a team even if you prefer to play alone]
Knowing you can't PvP in solo, the "play alone" does not refer to this mode. It refers to feeling you are part of a team while you play as a lone wolf (not in a wing)
btw, this is what research look like
https://goo.gl/ddX5Fv
now seriously, seems so. there are a few threads about them. given the low interest in powerplay it would be surprising that much botting went on, but it could be just one more reason for players leaving.