Nice find... I actually had forgotten about that...
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Nice find... I actually had forgotten about that...
That doesn't apply here though; the point was that a hypothetical synthesis-based probes mechanic isn't ruled out by non-Horizons players being unable to do synthesis; all players can do synthesis.
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It indeed does apply. Although synthesis was an option assuming an explorer was fitted for mining:
FDev's stated goal when the exploration changes were first announced a couple of months back was that explorers wouldn't need to return to the bubble. They're upholding that statement
This was already discussed earlier in the thread, but we've now reached the point of whiners repeating the same flawed arguments.
Yep... Give the DSS a huge ammocount... 5000 or something... and to reload 500 probes, use 10 units each of 3 grade 1 materials.
Either way... I am fine with unlimited... I'm not that sure about FDs reasoning behind it though.
Yeah, I'm agreeing with you, I just added that small qualification to explain why people see it as a Horizons thing.
Personally, I like the idea of having to work a bit to keep your exploration ship ticking over out in the black, and that can include doing synthesis and loadout choices like mining lasers. But I don't have a strong opinion; I don't care enough to be bothered by the infinite ammo, I just hope they take away the sign that SAYS infinite ammo and not raise the issue.
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No, the arguement "Had to be or it would leave non horizon players without a way to make probes with the current system as is." is just not accurate. A split between Horizons and Elite is not applicable in that way.
"Synthesis is available to Horizons owners only." is not correct.
I'm ok with other reasons for not using synthesis, just not the reason I took issue with.
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Awful lot of hair-splitting going on by a bunch of people flying spaceships that behave like WW II fighters with rocket boosters and lasers.
I didn't know WWII fighters could fly in space.
The on-board computer limits ship movement according to the lore. Realistically the ship would be controlled by AI or cyborg human and combat would mostly happen from far away that you rarely encounter ships up close.Cool!
I'm sure you'll cope
So... what about my point where FD said that Beyond is free for Horizons players? How does that word of "free" include non-horizons players? Isn't that causing a pay2win situation, no matter how you turn the dice?
I would guess that you haven't read the patch notes for either Horizons' updates nor Beyonds' updates. All updates have included improvements and additions for non-Horizons CMDRs.
Beyond is free to all players; Horizons-CMDRs get all of the features added in Beyond, basegame-only CMDRs get some of them.
Elite Dangerous is a game. If this statement is true: then there are no problems in having infinite probes.
Cool, I'm glad you've now read all comments in the thread discussion and are now up to dateNo, the arguement "Had to be or it would leave non horizon players without a way to make probes with the current system as is." is just not accurate. A split between Horizons and Elite is not applicable in that way.
"Synthesis is available to Horizons owners only." is not correct.
I'm ok with other reasons for not using synthesis, just not the reason I took issue with.
I found that just weird, especially as it only took 5 probe per planet, so 1,000 probes would amount to over 250 worlds.
Number of probes required is directly dependant on the size of each world.
Cool, I'm glad you've now read all comments in the thread discussion and are now up to date
It sounds like you have misread me. I first indicated I would like synthesis for enhanced probes precisely because this means nothing is needed for infinite regular probes. I also took issue with the misguided idea that synthesis is only available to Horizons players (and therefore can't be on the table). You're coming across as strangely combative over something that seems like it should be a pretty straightforward and uncontroversial position.
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Enhanced probes are indeed a cool idea, and I'd happily support such a feature for a future update; I would recommend it for a different thread
This thread is as directed by the OP about whether infinite probes are a good thing or not, and I'm happily informing the very small number of "no infinite probe" players the reasons why they are a good thing
Personally I can't wait to fire probes at ELW's and terrify the bejeezus out of the natives on 'em
And you'll find yourself the subject of a movie called "Day Of The Alien Probes!!"
Out of some distant star, from a distant unknown world, the alien ship arrived. It's intentions unknown. Refused to respond to the sub-Ethernet radio and our flashing lights.
Then, without warning, it attacked! It released wave after wave of strange objects that buried themselves in the dirt of our most holy world. And what did they do once buried there?
No one knows.
Yet, there they remain, doing whatever they do, silently, quietly, without a hint as to their purpose. Do they send some kind of unknown signal to the home world? "Come here, there is food." Are WE the food? We may never know. But in a few generations our children may find out when the demon horde comes back in response to this signal to feast upon our flesh and suck the brains from our heads.
And we will have the creature we only know as "Genar-Hofoen" to thank for the end of our species.
I should write a book.
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