Isn't the thread title enough of a hint? Then you should lose a bit of that cocky arrogance, as it's certainly unwarranted, mate.
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Isn't the thread title enough of a hint? Then you should lose a bit of that cocky arrogance, as it's certainly unwarranted, mate.
Ian Phillips
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Don't be petty guys.
Lets please keep to the topic.
Lets please keep to the topic.
Rain on your wedding day is NOT ironic. Alanis doesn't know what she's on about.Phew!
Edit: And this from the man who mainly comes on the forums to post NO DISCUSSIONS IN THIS THREAD! - Alanis would be proud
Who's re-writing anything?
This entire forum is full of people discussing ifs, buts and maybes... There's no problem with that for most people it would seem. Agree... Disagree... It's all good!
Except for self appointed Sheriffs it would seem! Especially when there's in truth no attempt to discuss the matters at hand, but there's other objectives...
He's saying that what you're suggesting is wasting your own time. They've been working on this stuff for a long time. Things like changing infinite probes aren't a massive amount of programming but altering the mechanic itself is not going to happen. If your goal here is to get Frontier to change the system they've been building for a year into whatever you theorycrafted with MS Paint 3 days before beta, you're going to be disappointed.
i really wish i could find the original post where it was revealed as 200.... i am not calling you out specifically but i am pretty confident some of the people (again maybe not you) who are saying to hang fire untill after testing would have been moaning that the number was not enough
Why does that matter? FD responded to people who thought 200 was small (myself included), they took it on-board and decided to change. People always say they should listen to the community, well, they did.
Thankfully they listen when people ask simple questions like 'how will this work for non-Horizons?' as much as the pitchfork wielding hoards screaming for their immersions
(unless you can point me to the I've just watched the livestream again, and that seems to be what they're saying.
And again, at the section I think you pointed out to me (in another discussion) where the FSS indicated immediately what there is to be found on the planet should you then proble it. As I mentioned earlier, I guess the interesting thing will be is if there's things that aren't revealed by the FSS but are by probes?
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Ah, but the arch discussion-refuser gettng poutraged and complaining (incorrectly) about being shut down - now that is ironic. But who would have thought, it figures
That's fine... I don't mind "wasting" my time. Am I allowed to? ie: Can I discuss tweaks and alternative to mechanics as happens across this forum constantly?
My goal is not to change a system, simply raise ifs, buts and maybes that could be of interest (or not) to others. And what the heck, just maybe something positive might come out of such discussions. Who knows!
But the suggestion from some folks that we're not allowed to talk about ifs, buts and maybes because "they know best"? Really?
And then you get individuals wading in making repeat bait posts for some personal agenda... *sigh*
ps: It was Paint.NET not MS Paint!
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Why does that matter? FD responded to people who thought 200 was small (myself included), they took it on-board and decided to change. People always say they should listen to the community, well, they did.
Thankfully they listen when people ask simple questions like 'how will this work for non-Horizons?' as much as the pitchfork wielding hoards screaming for their immersions7274 page thread (like this one) calling for infinite probes, I don't recall any mass campaign)
of course it matters!.
giving your view that you dont like something, no matter whether i agree or not is fine.... but moaning when you dont like something, but when you DO, then telling people they should shut up untill they have tried it in beta is hypocritical at its finest.
how you cant see that blows my mind.
now maybe 200 was too stingy...... and having ways for non horizons users to get mats is a valid concern.. but balancing numbers IS what beta would be about....... there is no balancing infinite however.. you like infinite, that is ok....... but double standards no so good.
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Indeed. Perhaps she should have checked this forum for a better understanding of irony.Ah, but the arch discussion-refuser gettng poutraged and complaining (incorrectly) about being shut down - now that is ironic. But who would have thought, it figures
Or maybe it's just ironic that a song about irony has no irony in it.
Now my head hurts.
that would be hypocritical, but I haven't done that.
My only objection is to people who refuse to accept that others have a valid opinion and repeatedly attempt to convert them, seemingly thinking they 'just don't understand' (this is in general, not aimed at you at all). FD should have access to all opinions.
fair enough.... however you responded to my post saying "why would it matter" when it was about exactly that.
i realise no one is going to be converted before beta... and chances are not even in beta. different players here fundamentally want different things..... i am just passing the time waiting till i can get my teeth into it
really my only objection is those who are hypocrites as well as those who try to ridicule people for feeling differently or disappointed. (not aimed at you at all).
I'm actually back on the fence now about infinite probes
Originally (eg: from the livesteam) it seemed like the sensible move. But then I'd missed an important thing in that livestream, the fact that the FSS will tell you any POIs (and even their type) on planets.
So it's not as if you have to probe every planet looking for POIs. You are informed of exactly which ones you should be interested in.
So this leads us to "significant probe usage" being down to two main reasons surely?
ie: If you're doing the above two things, what's wrong with you having to top up your probes somehow?
Originally (eg: from the livesteam) it seemed like the sensible move. But then I'd missed an important thing in that livestream, the fact that the FSS will tell you any POIs (and even their type) on planets.
So it's not as if you have to probe every planet looking for POIs. You are informed of exactly which ones you should be interested in.
So this leads us to "significant probe usage" being down to two main reasons surely?
- Mine! Mine! Mine! - ie: Discovered By and CR rewards from surface scanning as much as possible.
- Protracted exploration journeys - ie: Out exploring for months.
ie: If you're doing the above two things, what's wrong with you having to top up your probes somehow?
Nothing wrong with it, knock yourself out. And others can disagree.
I've told you I think its pointless and why, do I need to fetch you the smelling salts ?.
i really wish i could find the original post where it was revealed as 200.... i am not calling you out specifically but i am pretty confident some of the people (again maybe not you) who are saying to hang fire untill after testing would have been moaning that the number was not enough
I'd have been OK with it either way. Its the advantage of being happy as an end user, and not thinking my opinions override FDEVs insider knowledge or all the other players preferences.
What I do is research to find games I'll like and then buy them. The whole change it NAOW thing just doesn't happen to me.
No... But if you could instead just bring some common courtesy with you to the forum, that should suffice.
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