Powerplay Proposal of a chart for the support to Open mode in Powerplay

Robert Maynard

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There should never have been anything but open mode in elite dangerous in my opinion, or atleast they should have separated the online communety from the single players/private groups. Open should have had its own universe, xbox should also had it own universe since we cant instance with them... bubble should have been made much smaller, so players would meet more often.

I wonder if that game would have managed to meet the Kickstarter funding target? We'll never know....
 

Ian Phillips

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There should never have been anything but open mode in elite dangerous in my opinion, or atleast they should have separated the online communety from the single players/private groups. Open should have had its own universe, xbox should also had it own universe since we cant instance with them... bubble should have been made much smaller, so players would meet more often.

You need to understand that there is only one online community and that it includes all three play modes and all the different platforms.

The galaxy is the shared play area and everyone in the game has affects it by their actions.
 
There should never have been anything but open mode in elite dangerous in my opinion, or atleast they should have separated the online communety from the single players/private groups. Open should have had its own universe, xbox should also had it own universe since we cant instance with them... bubble should have been made much smaller, so players would meet more often.

If the game had been balanced and had a logical/effective Crime and Punishment system, I concur. ie: Ultimately, if you don't want to be attacked by CMDRs then not doing X or going to Y will drastically reduce it. Do X or go to Y and it will increase it...

But with the current mechanics there's even ganking taking place at Founder World Crime and Punishment is so ineffective!
 
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You need to understand that there is only one online community and that it includes all three play modes and all the different platforms.

The galaxy is the shared play area and everyone in the game has affects it by their actions.

I do understand, we are a online comunety in three different game modes, sharing the same galaxy, and i hate it. I know everone cant get instanced all the time, but when looking at the traffic report in a station it should reflect what i can expect too see in that system, right now, seing a number like 1000 players in the last 24 hours could mean i never will meet any of them ever, because they are in solo, or it could mean its a very dangerous system and that all of them are in open, but i will never know because those numbers are shared beetwen all modes. Also when i play with the BGS i would like to be able to meet my opponents supporting other factions and maybe fight them in the cz, but they can hide in solo never too be seen so i cant really fight them other than just deliver more bonds than they do... and like you said, everyone affects it, that is what i really dont like.... Id like the ones affecting it have the same risks as i do when affecting it. A solo player has much less risk in affecting things, but still affect just as much as me who do it in open trying to counter it... No, three game modes never should have been there, atleast not in the same galaxy....

Also, what i ment is in that post is, separate the online communety, those that play in open, those that play in solo and those on xbox to have their own galaxy. I really dont feel connected to solo players as i never ever seen any of them online...
 
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There are benefits in having the 3 modes of play and FDev clearly believed there were at inception.

Solo: Beginners / not sure / lone wolves – some people just aren’t into online interactions or don’t have / can’t afford the necessary internet connections or equipment to ‘compete’ but they still want to be / and feel involved. Nothing wrong with that.

Private Groups: Sometimes friends just want to hang out without being harassed by ‘thugs’ or they want to do or compete in their own ‘challenges’ without outside interference. A lot of online games have invite only groups or arenas.

Open: anything goes for the serious gamer.

Where does Powerplay fit into this?
Powerplay is intended to change or affect the balance of power in the Human Bubble. Preparation, expansion and undermining all have effects on what systems are controlled or not controlled by the Powers. Changes in the ownership of each system may have effects on local trade routes and markets.
Players are supposedly actively engaged in determining the success of these endeavours. It is also fair to surmise that opposing power players can also affect these outcomes by actively engaging in combat between opposing powers or powers with opposing interests. Likewise they can assist other powers if their collective interests are aligned. This is, then, an ‘OPEN’ game process. For another power player to ‘avoid’ combat with an opposing power but then also undermining their system would appear somewhat contradictory to the supposed process.
So, it would make reasonable sense that Power Play is conducted solely in OPEN.

Can it be done?
That’s up to FDev to let us know?
 

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator
Where does Powerplay fit into this?

It's a game feature that was implemented for all players.

Powerplay is intended to change or affect the balance of power in the Human Bubble. Preparation, expansion and undermining all have effects on what systems are controlled or not controlled by the Powers. Changes in the ownership of each system may have effects on local trade routes and markets.

Indeed.

Players are supposedly actively engaged in determining the success of these endeavours. It is also fair to surmise that opposing power players can also affect these outcomes by actively engaging in combat between opposing powers or powers with opposing interests. Likewise they can assist other powers if their collective interests are aligned.

Indeed - if they wish to.

This is, then, an ‘OPEN’ game process. For another power player to ‘avoid’ combat with an opposing power but then also undermining their system would appear somewhat contradictory to the supposed process.

Not the way it has been designed and implemented, no. Every player has the option to choose whichever game mode they wish to play in - just as they have the choice as to what sort of gameplay they engage in. It's the same for the BGS - every player experiences and affects it, regardless of game mode or platform.

So, it would make reasonable sense that Power Play is conducted solely in OPEN.

.... if there was any requirement to (potentially) engage in direct PvP in this game, yes - but there isn't so no.
 
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This thread had been dead for 5 weeks.......

True, but the OP was edited to talk about a chart.

I assume Casey means a charter, which would simply be organized PP groups pledging to tell their players that Open mode is more enjoyable, and the preferred mode for Power Play operations. It doesn't seem like a problem to me, as nothing we say can actually control our players' actions, and every mode is still valid. Not to mention that if any player group refuses to participate, nothing will happen to them. ALD Research refuses to make a statement any direction, but many of our players encourage and mentor other players in Open mode.
 
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