Python/Class 6 thruster issue? (Devs please have a look)
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I see you are still doing your number twisting game, eh?
So 260 vs 270 armor is a clear point to Clipper for you.
but 405 to 305 shield is very little advantage. That is clear point for Python if the armor counts as clear point for Clipper. Actually would be more like 3-5 points for Python. Massive difference!
weapons: one hardpoint AND weapon placement. Point to Python
what do you even mean by hull better of clipper than python. If ever python can land on medium, clipper can not. Hull advantage goes massively to Python
and Clipper with Class 7 shields is not half the price of python.
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Do you realize that Aleksej is 'only' a forum moderator? He is not part of the development team, basically not that much different from us.
He doesn't have much (if nothing at all) to say in game design matters or content releases.
Look up video's on youtube with my name in, here ill help you a little. There are many.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cL6uLnh41E
I had 4 commanders and about 4 feds on me at one point and still took no hull damage, the event i held where i streamed and invited players from the forums to come kill me lasted 6 hours and i got killed 1 time...It took multiple commanders feds and a Python to finally kill me, without the python helping them i would have just tanked and moved on..
A few days Later i added more PvP weapons and returned to lave and farmed multiple commanders and mass feds all day
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I do but I have been asking this question for some time now....anywhere and everywhere. its pertinent to the subject because I bought a conda and sold it again because I didn't like the poor choice of weapons. If the Python gets a big nerf I might try it again. Also the Vulture will probably have lots of C3 slots so will suffer form the same problem. I was hoping that as a Mod he might have some reliable info
Since this is a bug and loads of people have been exploiting it will they all lose profits gained through owning one?
The vulture will have exactly two (2) C3 slots.
Do we know if it'll have any other hardpoints(c1/2 etc) because 2 C3's seem pretty weak imho. A viper has more firepower, asp even more.
Not to mention that Python has Class 7 power distributor compared to Class 6 of the Clipper, Class 7 Power Plant vs Class 6 Power Plant, slightly lower bulkhead masses, and a two times larger fuel tank. And these differences are very significant.
According to:
The vulture is set to have just two large hard points actually and four utility hard points. So you can imagine with such a load out what the ship is going to be like to make up for it
Only 2 large hard points. Large weapons overpower medium and small ones. In addition Large weapons have superior penetration stats, i.e. they pierce the hull without issues. There was also a table:
S-W - S ship - 100% effectiveness
S-W - M ship - 67% effectiveness
S-W - L ship - 33% effectiveness
M-W - S ship - 100% effectiveness
M-W - M ship - 100% effectiveness
M-W - M ship - 67% effectiveness
Large weapons have 100% effectiveness against all ships.
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As far as I could find there is no word about other hard points.
Indeed!
It's like he thinks we are all too stupid to notice or something. And doesn't understand if you do those number twisting games. It makes you look bad second of all. But first of all. Nobody gonna take anything you say seriously again.
Like his statement that "he has tested Clipper versus Python maneuvrability and Clipper was better".
Like hell I gonna believe any such statement coming from him.
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Fair enough!Look up video's on youtube with my name in, here ill help you a little. There are many.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cL6uLnh41E
I had 4 commanders and about 4 feds on me at one point and still took no hull damage, the event i held where i streamed and invited players from the forums to come kill me lasted 6 hours and i got killed 1 time...It took multiple commanders feds and a Python to finally kill me, without the python helping them i would have just tanked and moved on..
A few days Later i added more PvP weapons and returned to lave and farmed multiple commanders and mass feds all day
Yea and thats because a bloody viper could kill it in seconds!
dumbfire missile nerf confirmed already. You can bag up that argument. It ain't applicable no more!
all the video shows is shield cell abuse vs a bunch of commanders with pve loadouts, the only thread longer than this one is the thread about shield cells being stupidly overpowered and of course on the largest shield they are the most OP lol
and mentioning feds is laughable unless it was the fed conda with turrets to compensate for their incredibly poor flight skills.
and mentioning feds is laughable unless it was the fed conda with turrets to compensate for their incredibly poor flight skills.
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If it has decent speed, agility and a good power distributor, 2 large hardpoints should be much more effective than 2 medium and 2 small vs big ships.
Thanks! Well said!
How comes that everyone wants to tell me the Python is a Trader?
Because a decades old description says so?
In my books a ship with well placed 3 Large hard points and 2 medium ones clearly does not count as a trader!
Medium Cargo hold and a short to mediocre jump range doesn't add to the trader argument too.
Because a decades old description says so?
In my books a ship with well placed 3 Large hard points and 2 medium ones clearly does not count as a trader!
Medium Cargo hold and a short to mediocre jump range doesn't add to the trader argument too.
My thought exactly.
I can go with a nerf, but just to be clear with everyone: the first time you see the ship you immediately think "Oh, a large combat ship !". "Ooooh, it can have more than 210 cargo hold ? It's also a trade ship then... Ah not really, his jump range isn't that good..."
See the problem ? The ship has, since the beginning, the look and everything else similar to a combat ship. So everyone thought it was the case.
But it wasn't and now everyone, including me, is like "It's a shame then, because I wanted a combat ship".
Python is a armed trader.
armed traders are as old as spacesims. maybe you just haven't played to many so you couldn't possibly know.
what godforsaken brainless worm would design a fighter ship with 292 tons of cargo space. The third highest in the game currently. Python is most clearly NOT a pure fighter.
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