Oh awesome, kinda makes it look like an oversized Viper Mk4!
Ships Python Owners' Thread
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Oh awesome, kinda makes it look like an oversized Viper Mk4!
You know.. the Viper Mk4 actually has a place in my heart, that's probably why I went with this selection of Livery.
Have to say, Engies have done a beautiful thing with the Python as a boat; a boat I couldn't stand before.
Running with no interest in combat, 216 cargo, 24 ly, 410ish boost...thing is making me about 10/12 mil an hour running missions.
With rudimentary armaments (read Pulses), running at 420+ boost, 30 ly and 168 cargo; very very happy Python owner.
EDIT: I think running 168 cargo drops me to about 26ly with a 415 boost...who cares, it's all good!
Running with no interest in combat, 216 cargo, 24 ly, 410ish boost...thing is making me about 10/12 mil an hour running missions.
With rudimentary armaments (read Pulses), running at 420+ boost, 30 ly and 168 cargo; very very happy Python owner.
EDIT: I think running 168 cargo drops me to about 26ly with a 415 boost...who cares, it's all good!
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As well as my Python I also now have an FDL for combat and a Cobra MkIV rigged out for mining. the last two weeks I have spent upgrading all three via the Engineers. I first went to Alvira, then the Dweller, Lee Cheung, Liz Ryder, Tod McQuinn and finished off today with Felicity Farseer. I have upgraded everything I could to the max I could with the above. However I boobed with the grade 3 Dirt drive in my Python which was boosting at 414ms with Alvira's grade 2 DD. I did a couple of G3 rolls with Felicity one of which gave me 20% Optimal output but as this was only 1% better I decided to roll again and ended up with 17.5% and a speed reduction to 406ms. After upgrading the FDL and Cobra I had plenty mats left but only the 1 unit of Chromium so decided to wait until tomorrow and go surface mining for a few units more on Deciat 3. Now that I am nearly ready to go back into normal play I intend to use my FDL obviously for missions/combat and the Cobra for mining while I will use the Python for missions/trading/planetary exploration material collecting etc. With that in mind I put in a G3 clean drive into the Cobra a G3 Dirty Drive into the FDL @ 456ms boost and now I am wondering before I go surface prospecting tomorrow for a load of chromium for a few rolls if perhaps a G3 Clean Drive might be better than the G3 Dirty Drive for the Python in the way that I intend to use it. Any of you other Python owners have any opinions on this?.
Might be. Up to you to try. There are certainly advantages to having better heat efficiency. You'll have to measure that against the rather obvious advantages of a "fast" Python. I ran with cool drives before and found it to be useful in running a "hot" loadout of beams. Then I installed grade 3 dirties and swapped the beams for fixed frags (moving one of the beams below as a healer). I found the added speed more than made up for the loss in efficiency. On the other hand, if my sole purpose was to have a fast traveling, mission runner I'd go back to the cool drives so I could scoop and jump repeatedly without overheating. So, a combat focus will likely always warrant the dirties, but a mission runner very well might be better served with cool drives.
Tell us how you go
Edit: Here's a pic of mine at zero percent paintjob:
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In the end I just went for another attempt at the G3 Dirty Drive and ended up with the following. It will do okay until I figure out all the Engineer details, at present they seem to me to be a bit hit and miss. Here's a link to Coriolis. https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/pyt...q2B7sy/pLzZNRsCAAA=&bn=INS Jack Of All Trades
That's a good result on the G3 DDT best I have is 23% on the multiplier but more of an optimal mass drop, as to shields if you go down the max MJ route with reinforced shield mods you generally want some heavy duty boosters (E or D grade a lot of boost for not much mass), the resistance approach uses thermal modded bi-weave with a resistance augmented boosters with perhaps a thermal or kinetic booster to level up the resistances.
This is from a Vulture I've been working on fitted with bi-weave with one thermal booster and one kinetic, the shield has good resistance against all types of attack with just the two boosters (no power for any more!)
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This is from a Vulture I've been working on fitted with bi-weave with one thermal booster and one kinetic, the shield has good resistance against all types of attack with just the two boosters (no power for any more!
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My tuppence worth..., but if you're mainly in the bubble with the Python I'd consider replacing the fuel scoop for something else to give yourself some flexibility.
Geoman made a good point elsewhere that that, to paraphrase, 'decent jump range plus a 32-tonne tank of fuel covers a hefty stretch of the bubble'.
I think the power distributer could do with some work, I'm running a 7D I believe (not in game) that's engied for faster charging...also think I'm running an overcharged PP 5A that powers One Large Beam and a bunch of MCs (mostly engied for Efficiency).
I'm still getting to grips with all of this, so be wary of my advice!
Might be teaching you to suck eggs, but are you using Coriolis or ED Shipyard to compare your uprades before applying/rejecting them?
ED Shipyard.
Coriolis version.
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As a non python owner, I just got a quick observation to share.. I think you guys overestimate your ship quite a bit when it comes to combat. Sure it's a fantastic multipurpose ship and is decent in combat, but not really good enough to take on FDL's and the big three. When I try to pirate players in my cutter one reaction is that they start shooting at me, and 90% of the time it's like an expert python who overestimates his/her ship. The shields gets taken down really fast by my relatively simple piracy weaponry consisting of 3 pulse lasers and 2 seeker missiles as offensive weapons, and it doesn't take long for the hull to go down either.
Now it of course comes down to how these ships are fit to some extent, but many have had engineering upgrades and still get torn apart. So basically I think many python owners overestimate their ship's combat capabilities.
Now it of course comes down to how these ships are fit to some extent, but many have had engineering upgrades and still get torn apart. So basically I think many python owners overestimate their ship's combat capabilities.
I don't. I know my limits...
And out of curiosity: what would you consider those limits to be?
There are plenty of regular posts, such as "Spent years coveting the Python only to get my little bottom handed to me in combat" which is currently on the first page.
That post doesn't describe me, any more than someone talking about boosting into the docks repeatedly, describes me.
It's a ship with a reputation and there will be people who get the "fabled" python and screw up.
But you've made quite a jump of logic to walk into an owner's thread and say "you guys" don't know what you're doing. Basically, you're blowing the ox, as they say in China. You're talking right out of your bottom.
This also means you're preying on more-clueless players, but I won't tell you how to scrape your own barrel.
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Of course someone has to be offended. [rolleyes]
Uh, yeah I said you guys as in you Python owners, not as in everyone in this thread. Of course I realize that not every python cmdr overestimates their ship in combat but many do and I was sharing that observation, was curious to see why that was.
Also if you think i'm just ''preying'' on more clueless pythons, that's quite the ''jump of logic'' to assume I only interdict clueless pythons. I interdict all ships, that includes the big three.
You quote one small part of my post that you got offended by, and ignore the rest of the post.
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And this is a good example of why I'll never bother with 'open' play.
Starboyy: This is a thread for folks to discuss their Pythons. Not about playing preferences/styles. You 'observation' was unsolicited, and likely unwanted (to some, myself included). I would think that a post about clueless python owners and how you bag on them would be more appropriate in a general forum. You like interdicting folks and blowing them up. Great. Wrong forum though. Just an observation...
Starboyy: This is a thread for folks to discuss their Pythons. Not about playing preferences/styles. You 'observation' was unsolicited, and likely unwanted (to some, myself included). I would think that a post about clueless python owners and how you bag on them would be more appropriate in a general forum. You like interdicting folks and blowing them up. Great. Wrong forum though. Just an observation...
And this is a good example of why I'll never bother with 'open' play.
Starboyy: This is a thread for folks to discuss their Pythons. Not about playing preferences/styles. You 'observation' was unsolicited, and likely unwanted (to some, myself included). I would think that a post about clueless python owners and how you bag on them would be more appropriate in a general forum. You like interdicting folks and blowing them up. Great. Wrong forum though. Just an observation...
And this response is a good example of why this forum is consisted of mostly PVE only players who get triggered when someone mentions anything about PvP.
This is a thread for discussing Pythons as you said, so I wanted to discuss the python's combat capabilities and how (some) people sometimes overestimate it. I shared my piracy to give background on what kind of cmdr they are going up against, not to start a discussion about the usual ''griffer this is why i will never play open''.
Since this is a thread about the Python, I felt at least someone maybe would be willing to talk about the combat capabilities without getting offended at me daring to question something as simple as python commanders combat choices. Clearly I was wrong.
Also I like how you make the immediate assumption that I just like to interdict people and blow them up, I pirate, so I don't gain anything from the people I interdict's death. I only kill as a last resort when people are not cooperative, python pilots are probably the most uncooperative so I do end up blowing quite a few up though.
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