Quality of Life Improvement: Input LAT/LON Co-ords and have a Surface Waypoint appear, similar to the surface scan mission Waypoint.

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FoxFire Ayderan

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I just had my first experience finding the right Lat / Lon on a planet.

It was a difficult and interesting endeavor that first time around.

And... not something I feel like doing again.
 

oz.grant

oz.grant
I have not tried it, due to reading how bad this part of the game is. Yes i must be missing out, but what is the point of giving this part of the game my free time from doing my job, when some lazy Devs cant be to do theirs. Fix this please, my car has a better Tom Tom.
 

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
oz.grant said:
I have not tried it, due to reading how bad this part of the game is. Yes i must be missing out, but what is the point of giving this part of the game my free time from doing my job, when some lazy Devs cant be to do theirs. Fix this please, my car has a better Tom Tom.
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Now, come on.

Insulting the devs isn't going to get anyone anywhere. They are as far from being lazy as you could imagine. This has nothing to do with laziness, and I'd appreciate it if such comments were left off the thread.

The devs only work on the stuff they are told to work on, and if navigational conveniences such as described in this thread was not something allocated time for, then such work would not have been done.

I have no doubt Frontier will get around to doing something eventually.
 

BartV

BartV
Genar-Hofoen said:
Now, come on.

Insulting the devs isn't going to get anyone anywhere. They are as far from being lazy as you could imagine. This has nothing to do with laziness, and I'd appreciate it if such comments were left off the thread.

The devs only work on the stuff they are told to work on, and if navigational conveniences such as described in this thread was not something allocated time for, then such work would not have been done.

I have no doubt Frontier will get around to doing something eventually.
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It would be nice if the dev's could take a look at this though.
 

Iskariot

Iskariot
Genar-Hofoen said:
Dear People Who Decide What Gets Done in Frontier,

Planetary navigation is terrible.

This becomes apparent when trying to reach a set of LAT/LON coordinates on a planet surface, when there is no waypoint (like in a surface recovery mission).

Try reaching a LAT/LON from space, to glide, to the surface. It is nigh on impossible.

Sure, we can get into Orbital Cruise, and we have a display of LAT/LON. But then you're trying to change direction of orbit relative to planet surface and the coords. Trying to get the coords to go up/down/positive/negative at just the correct rate so they will converge at the desired LAT/LON.

Then, even when you're getting close to the target, you have to try and judge the right moment when to come out of orbital cruise to glide down to the surface - you'll probably overshoot badly.

In short, this is a terrible experience.

So for 2.4 - please, please allocate some dev time to marking a surface waypoint we can target, by way of the 3D surface map in the System Map.

Please!?


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I agree with OP.
We definitely need a better planetary navigation system.
 

avow555

avow555
A simple request that needs implemented.

I rarely go near the surface due to the appalling navigation that can be nothing more than Alpha build software and still ingame years later.
 

Fi5hboN3

Fi5hboN3
A surface scan should bring up all the common material properties in a scanned list as it does, and anything foreign should come up as a surface signal sources, from low to high. Something along them lines would be great
 

CMDR Yates

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Fi5hboN3 said:
A surface scan should bring up all the common material properties in a scanned list as it does, and anything foreign should come up as a surface signal sources, from low to high. Something along them lines would be great
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Agreed. The idea that our sensors can't detect crashed ships from orbit is silly; having tools that let us detect such things would be much more rewarding and involving than landing and aimlessly driving around. When we fly past a planet, there should be sources popping up at interesting locations, tempting us down to the surface. Give us a reason to land!

Even if the signal sources were non-persistent, I'd take that over the current Blind Man's Buff-like implementation. Surface waypoints could be used to make a particular site persistent for that player, until it is deleted.

But more than anything, we just need surface waypoints.
 

BartV

BartV
As I read the above it is clearly obvious that alot of people want planetary navigation fixed / bettered. Therefore I think Frontier has a duty to inform us to such extent wheter this feature is going to be implemented or not so in the near future.

Let's keep this thread at the top people, they can't keep ignoring us forever.
 
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NW3

NW3
BartV said:
As I read the above it is clearly obvious that alot of people want planetary navigation fixed / bettered.
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And I'm one of them, even though I've become good at flying to the correct coordinates. It's still faster and less aggravating to land at a marked location, like a station or the Guardian Ruins.
 

Louis Calvert

Louis Calvert
Genar-Hofoen said:
Dear People Who Decide What Gets Done in Frontier,

Planetary navigation is terrible.

This becomes apparent when trying to reach a set of LAT/LON coordinates on a planet surface, when there is no waypoint (like in a surface recovery mission).

Try reaching a LAT/LON from space, to glide, to the surface. It is nigh on impossible.

Sure, we can get into Orbital Cruise, and we have a display of LAT/LON. But then you're trying to change direction of orbit relative to planet surface and the coords. Trying to get the coords to go up/down/positive/negative at just the correct rate so they will converge at the desired LAT/LON.

Then, even when you're getting close to the target, you have to try and judge the right moment when to come out of orbital cruise to glide down to the surface - you'll probably overshoot badly.

In short, this is a terrible experience.

So for 2.4 - please, please allocate some dev time to marking a surface waypoint we can target, by way of the 3D surface map in the System Map.

Please!?


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Signed.
 

Ralph Vargr

Ralph Vargr
BartV said:
As I read the above it is clearly obvious that alot of people want planetary navigation fixed / bettered. Therefore I think Frontier has a duty to inform us to such extent wheter this feature is going to be implemented or not so in the near future.

Let's keep this thread at the top people, they can't keep ignoring us forever.
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Oh, yes, they can. :(
 
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