How about just git away? That would be fairly sufficient.I'm not much interested in getting gud at ganking specifically
The crux of the argument here appears to be that ganking is counter productive to engagement and conversation. Unfortunately for you guys this isn't actually true. Sure, on average the success rate that we strike up a conversation and make a friend is around 10%. When you apply that against the sheer scale of interactions gankers get, you end up with a vibrant and growing community. We spend most of our game time actively hunting for other CMDRs. And not just in the hot spots you think you know. The Galactic Gank Initiative discord has continually grown since it was originally created to host Distant Ganks 2. Dozens of individual groups have formed within that larger community. When hundreds of gankers are providing emergent experiences to thousands of players, across the entire world, we do successfully sustain and grow our communities. We do so at a rate that's virtually unequaled to any individual group just by sheer numbers. And it's great. Someone with the slightest hint of git gud attitude is openly embraced within our community - D'anque being one of our most vocal examples.
How about just git away? That would be fairly sufficient.
That's not to say the ganker community doesn't ALSO engage in the PvE community. You see all rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangle.I'll point out that the ganker community has no problem speaking for the PvE crowd
No no..You misunderstand. I am replying specifically on your lack of motivation for gitting gud-which is fine. I was merely posing another option of perhaps just gitting away in game.Sufficient for what, exactly?
It's an open thread inviting responses from non-gankers....?
That's not to say the ganker community doesn't ALSO engage in the PvE community. You see all rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangle.
It technically is, but in gimped state with Solo mode. I still dream that true offline will come one day, but that's beyond my point. What me, and other players are suggesting is IMPROVING Open, because it's broken in more ways than one. Currently there's really no purose or reason to do anything, it's highly exploitable. Although It could really be made into amazing mode players wouldn't want to jump in any other, and with few very simple steps. It is very sad, however, that Fdev simply doesn't care about it.I agree with this also. IMHO it would be better for the game if there were wholly separate PVP and PVE servers - sharing nothing, not BGS or PP or otherwise - and each Solo player had a universe all their own, totally disconnected from other players.
But, I understand such a statement can be wildly inflammatory. I'm not seeking to inflame anyone's tempers on the matter, that's just my "hot take" after 10 weeks in the game.
smash to fit....and all. Although not entirely certain they don't engage in or with the Community. I'm sure there's a logical fallacy in there about No True PvE'rSquare peg / Round Hole and all.
No no..You misunderstand. I am replying specifically on your lack of motivation for gitting gud-which is fine. I was merely posing another option of perhaps just gitting away in game.
A new player here, about 6 weeks into my time in Elite. So apologies if this is repetitious, but it's something that's been on my mind.
I'd really like to have some dialogue with players who mainly play in Open, but who get angry / upset when they encounter the sort of "rogue commanders who have betrayed the Pilots Federation" described on the game's website, i.e. gankers and pirates.
Specifically, I'd like to ask: what kind of player interactions are you hoping to experience in Open, if not PVP combat? What are your expectations? Help me understand what you think Open is going to provide?
And most importantly, how often does it actually happen that you have a cooperative (non-PVP), spontaneous emergent experience in Open? Does that actually happen? I honestly don't know.
I've played mostly in Open, and found my group of in-game friends through being ganked. They've since gone on to be my mentors and help me learn the game, unlock engineers, etc. If I wasn't playing in Open, I wouldn't have met them, so I'm grateful I did. But my "introduction" came via interdiction and destruction. It turns out that was a very small price to pay to open a door to a huge amount of progression and expert guidance. I wasn't mad about it at the time, and I'm tremendously grateful now, once I realized just how complex and involved making positive progress in this game can be.
Accepting the friend request from the player with the crazy looking Holo-Me was the smartest thing I did in my first few hours in the game, as it turns out.
I hope that's not true but if it is, it explains the silence.
Nowhere did I disagree with that so no misunderstanding. I never mentioned git gud just git away (see you don't have to engage if you bounce out-in game).I mean to say that there are other things to git gud at than ganking
smash to fit....and all. Although not entirely certain they don't engage in or with the Community. I'm sure there's a logical fallacy in there about No True PvE'r
Personally if I was a pvp'r rather than try and justify why I do what I do I'd just own up to the fact that sometimes I just like to make others pixels go boom rather than try and convince myself and others that its for learning and teaching and all that other waffle.
Nowhere did I disagree with that so no misunderstanding. I never mentioned git gud just git away (see you don't have to engage if you bounce out-in game).
I am replying specifically on your lack of motivation for gitting gud-which is fine
Wait - so you do think it's OK to engage in "not agreed upon ahead of time" PVP?
By the way, 3k+ replies, and thread going almost for month in the top proves that forum PVP is best PVP!
Only wish community in-game would be at least distantly THAT active, eh?
I am saying you can just GET AWAY from gankers in the game (waking out). You don't have to GIT GUD (you must have missed the WHICH IS FINE part). That is the option. Then you can focus on GITting GUD at mining or whatever your fancy is.Cos that looks to me like you were replying to me specifically about my lack of motivation to git gud.....