Question for Open players who don't like PVP/ganking... help me understand
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Rummaging through the interwebs, I saw a video of "fun" consisting of using engineered murder-conda to shoot a player in SRV trying to do a Dav's Hope run. I'd ask "can anyone go lower than that", but I won't as I'm certain that some "worthy" would find a new low compared even to that.
My block list is still empty (after a year in open), but that action is enough to put the entire squadron on the list without a second thought.
My block list is still empty (after a year in open), but that action is enough to put the entire squadron on the list without a second thought.
Funny thing is, you lose relative little of value if blown up in a SRV.
Presuming you send away your ship, all you lose is the SRV itself.
All materials harvested until then are safe, no rebuy, you end up in your ship in an empty instance.
While I'd never do it personally, it's one of the lesser "deaths" someone can inflict on you.
There isn't much to understand in this predicament. Open is home to PvP and PvE. One playstyle is more intrusive by nature (and is significantly rarer occurrence) than the other one. If someone can't handle that, with all the tools that pretty much sanitize open until matchmaking breaks completely, then this mode is not made for them.
Such changes would spectacularly backfire on people who do bgs, powerplay, or anything that involves PvP. Gankers resolve would only strengthen by this. What pve people in open need are guns for hire, to protect them, if they aren't willing/able to do it for themselves.
Edit: I'm up for bodyguard duty btw, in case anyone needs my services.
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It still doesn't exonerate such behaviour. It's nothing more than bullying.
Everything can be abused.
Shooting people is within the rules, but shooting a newb and make him lose his hard dragged 1t of meta alloy from Maia to Deciat, is a jerk move.
Same as a PVP-er using the block to interfere with instancing for fellow pvp-ers. That would be a jerk move.
But at the same time blocking any sort of harassment, would be the right thing to to, isn't it?
I hadn’t thought about doing that at Davs Hope. What a great idea sounds like fun, thanks for highlighting!
The blocklist is not an option your character uses, it is one the player uses. There are options available to your Cmdr too. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm saying it's not not the only choice. I thought this was clear in my full post.
Scum. In this instance it's very clear that the griefer has nothing to gain in-game by shooting an SRV. His ONLY motivation is to waste someone's time by stopping their ED in their leisure time. As such it's an OOC action and an OOC response (block) is completely appropriate.
(If I saw such a video and it revealed the CMDR's name I'd be willing to add them to my list right away because I'm sure I'd never want to have anything to do with them in game either).
ED does not have pvp server, pve server, role-playing server.
So common sense should be applied when acting within the frame set by the game-rules.
But i get what you say and Block can be uses by the Character... see Old Duck's original usage of Block and his reverse IronMan playing style.
He propably roleplayed as an crystalline environmentalist or in above case a historian who wants to preserve Dav's Hope in the current condition for historical preservation.
That method of pretending they killed you as justification for why they will never meet you again fits comfortably within what I would classify as poor behaviour. Just don't go where that player is imo & accept they have the upper hand.
But play your own way, and others will judge you accordingly. That's the theme of this thread
There is literally zero reason to haul that hard dragged 1t of Meta Alloy to Deciat in Open, unless the player specifically wanted the extra thrill or challenge that only exists in that one of the 3 game modes.
If all they wanted had been hauling the damn thing as quickly and safely as possible, they would (or should) have chosen a different game mode.
It's a character play choice. No less valid than playing a psycho that's killing everything that moves.
And tbh, less jerk-ish than the later case.
ED could do a better job at warning new players of the dangers of playing in Open. I've seen enough comms over the years to know that the average new player has no idea that there are dedicated Elite PvPers with nothing better to do than kill harmless newbies delivering their meta alloy to Felicity, until it happens to them. I suppose the starter systems (which I'm not a fan of) does something to let new players know that the rest of the Bubble is a scary place, but it would still be nice if Frontier would add a nice "Are you sure you want to play in Open? You WILL die at the hands of other players! Don't say we didn't warn you!" message to the Open button
Is your point that some may consider certain acts a jerk move while others do not? Because I thought I had that covered with the word 'may'.
What you think counts as poor behaviour & what someone else thinks are not the same. We all have our own view & judge people based on those actions.
What is it about that that you are arguing against?
If you don't like how I play, switch modes. Open mode is obviously not for youThat method of pretending they killed you as justification for why they will never meet you again fits comfortably within what I would classify as poor behaviour. Just don't go where that player is imo & accept they have the upper hand.
But play your own way, and others will judge you accordingly. That's the theme of this thread
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ED could do a better job at warning new players of the dangers of playing in Open. I've seen enough comms over the years to know that the average new player has no idea that there are dedicated Elite PvPers with nothing better to do than kill harmless newbies delivering their meta alloy to Felicity, until it happens to them. I suppose the starter systems (which I'm not a fan of) does something to let new players know that the rest of the Bubble is a scary place, but it would still be nice if Frontier would add a nice "Are you sure you want to play in Open? You WILL die at the hands of other players! Don't say we didn't warn you!" message to the Open button
Well, if that's the case, then something weird must have happened to the average IQ of new players these days.
I used to be a new player once, but I had literally zero problem understanding the difference between the modes.
If you don't like how I play, switch modes. Open mode is obviously not for you
#ThemeOfThisThread
What I do is play my own way, while you play yours. I'm not stopping anyone playing any way they want, but I do form opinions on them based on what they do, just as anyone else does.