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That would be a lot easier to take from someone who didn’t accuse someone else of being a bully for the way they played.
Question for Open players who don't like PVP/ganking... help me understand
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Spell it out for me, what am I looking for that is inconsistent with what I said?
Don’t make me pull the quote up. The search function is crap on the phone and I’d have to go all the way over there to get my laptop.
Well I edited my post just before seeing this so I guess I'm not going to insist
I don't care. The definition of a bully is usually that perceived by their victim. Bullies don't usually think of themselves as bullies, just the same as victims don't usually think of themselves as victims.
Gankers are in fact constantly pulling each other. It's why Deciat is a literal warzone nearly every hour of the day. People go to Deciat and Shinrarta for "pick up games" in the same way you might take your ball down to the park and look for a game with some randoms.
Many times, these fights don't end in destruction, because when one side is clearly losing, they high wake out. That ends the fight - for the moment, and the person remaining in low space is the winner.
While there are absolutely friendships and temporary alliances between gankers, I've had, even in my short "career" in Elite, experiences where in the same play session - minutes apart - I've been fighting alongside someone in a wing only to have them drop wing, join a different one, and gank me in a 1v3 like 10 minutes later.
Which is no big deal at all, it's the game.
Well I edited my post just before seeing this so I guess I'm not going to insist
I don't care. The definition of a bully is usually that perceived by their victim. Bullies don't usually think of themselves as bullies, just the same as victims don't usually think of themselves as victims.
Its hard to be a victim or a bully if they've all chosen to play in open. More a case of unrealistic expectations.
If your evasion skills in a ship are even only half way matched to your forum evasion skills, I’d be surprised if you’ve ever been blown up in game.Well I edited my post just before seeing this so I guess I'm not going to insist
I don't care. The definition of a bully is usually that perceived by their victim. Bullies don't usually think of themselves as bullies, just the same as victims don't usually think of themselves as victims.
Nobody has something against lawful roleplay, but if you target the person behind the screen (aka any alt account that player might have) it's no longer roleplay. This is the line that was and is crossed.
Anyways we are having fun and have enough emergent content until at least space legs and my mine bomber T-10 is already ready for that time. But if Coma is anything to go by it will be years until this conflict is over. The local HoA leadership wants to finnish us, whatever that means.
Worst case we do what Fdev told us to do, block them.
Who are you talking about?
People who play video games.
Honestly, I wasn't thinking at all about what you said, I was replying to the post I quoted, which was not one of yours.
Regardless, the gist of it was to illustrate an example where a self-proclaimed lawful group is using tactics they have explicitly borrowed from what they define as gankers and griefers. But then try to make it out that they are different, because they're doing these things for the right reasons, and anyways, these "bad people" are so bad that even doing bad things to them isn't bad because they're bad people who deserve bad things to happen to them. In a nutshell, I mean.
The difference between the lawfuls and outlaws in that instance is merely the air of moral superiority presumed about actions which the lawful themselves equate precisely to ganking and griefing, and which activites they own are intended as such. That moral superiority is then doubled-down via the statement that the players they target are so morally corrupt that no amount of presumably negative play experience is too severe to serve as their punishment.
You have to assume their conclusion - that they are targeting "bad guys" - to be true before you can accept the validity of their premises and means, and that they somehow rise above the actions of the outlaws in the course of doing their thing.
I honestly don't care either way, and I actually like it better when it's got that strong odor of hypocrisy about it. But that may just be my anti-authoritarian leanings showing their colors.
Classy
What am I evading? I don't attack other players, only defend & retaliate. I also don't complain about how others choose to play or expect others to play a certain way because I do.otoh I don't like it when others don't accept responsibility for their actions, which has been quite a common theme here with the 'but it's only a game!' crowd, which has a large overlap with the 'forum PvP is best PvP' crowd. I'm not in either set. Are you?
Pff losers, the lot of 'em. Is that what you are saying? We should on the allotment growing carrots I guess?
Have you just quoted the wrong person ?.
So don't do that then? It's your rule
I think you have a specific thing or event in mind, whereas I'm using general rules.
Good grief. Is this on topic or personal? Because if it's personal just PM me (again).
I like carrots.
You're the one suddenly waffling on about offtopic, allotments and PM's for some reason.
None of which actually relate to me
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