Coyote
Rhea (probably greater)
A flamingo
Bighorn sheep
Saki Monkey
And then there is scenery as well
Ranking the areas still requiring animals
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Rhea (probably greater)
A flamingo
Bighorn sheep
Saki Monkey
And then there is scenery as well
Assuming the 5 animals are:
So first of, all of north america gets to enjoy blue based on
and
do i think both animals are lame additions to the game? Yes
Do they in arguably fill the niche of desert ungulate and carnivoran while also adding one of the most iconic animals of the north american grasslands to the point that its frequently refferd to as Prarie Wolf in multiple languages? Yeah i think they do move both the desert and the prarie to blue. Would another desert critter be cooler? Certanly but you also can build a quite in depth area for what is for zoos a rather niche area so i have no qualms calling it blue, especally considering its pretty well represented by exhibits aswell. If we should get the ocelot and/or the white nosed coati as one of the 2 remaining animals double that statement
The saki is a wonderfull addition but argueably not enough to move the rainforest out of orange. A second monkey or a bird could convince for that but rn it doesnt even have its resident small cat or any small carnivoran for that matter so thats another south america L right there
The existance of the rhea alone would boost patagonia to orange as a second animal together with the cougar and if u wanna stretch the lama as a third. If we should get the Mara aswell, patagonia would go to green. The greater rhea is the last bastion keeping the south american savannah out of green as arguably the by far most important missing key species, but the lesser rhea would not impact this region atall. While allready green, the lesser rhea would defenetly have made the argument for putting the andes into green, but doesnt move it to blue.
For the flamingo, if its american its singlehandedly boosting the carribeans to a present in the game with an orange rating. One animal is no great representation, but it certanly is some but at the same time one animal also really isnt what should make an area be deemed as good when their are other realistic options. It should also be noted that they are present on the tropical north coast of south america as a weak but welcome boost to south american rainforests. If its chilean then we can count that as a big patagonia W, boosting the area together with the rhea to yellow.
- Big Horn Sheep
- Coyote
- White Faced Saki
- Greater/Lesser Rhea
- American/Chillean Flamingo
So first of, all of north america gets to enjoy blue based on
and
do i think both animals are lame additions to the game? Yes
Do they in arguably fill the niche of desert ungulate and carnivoran while also adding one of the most iconic animals of the north american grasslands to the point that its frequently refferd to as Prarie Wolf in multiple languages? Yeah i think they do move both the desert and the prarie to blue. Would another desert critter be cooler? Certanly but you also can build a quite in depth area for what is for zoos a rather niche area so i have no qualms calling it blue, especally considering its pretty well represented by exhibits aswell. If we should get the ocelot and/or the white nosed coati as one of the 2 remaining animals double that statement
The saki is a wonderfull addition but argueably not enough to move the rainforest out of orange. A second monkey or a bird could convince for that but rn it doesnt even have its resident small cat or any small carnivoran for that matter so thats another south america L right there
The existance of the rhea alone would boost patagonia to orange as a second animal together with the cougar and if u wanna stretch the lama as a third. If we should get the Mara aswell, patagonia would go to green. The greater rhea is the last bastion keeping the south american savannah out of green as arguably the by far most important missing key species, but the lesser rhea would not impact this region atall. While allready green, the lesser rhea would defenetly have made the argument for putting the andes into green, but doesnt move it to blue.
For the flamingo, if its american its singlehandedly boosting the carribeans to a present in the game with an orange rating. One animal is no great representation, but it certanly is some but at the same time one animal also really isnt what should make an area be deemed as good when their are other realistic options. It should also be noted that they are present on the tropical north coast of south america as a weak but welcome boost to south american rainforests. If its chilean then we can count that as a big patagonia W, boosting the area together with the rhea to yellow.
Here's my thought process for the Americas pack:
- North american deserts (bighorn sheep, coyote, ocelot) - blue, wth is even left thats not in the game
- North american grasslands (bighorn sheep, coyote) - blue, not much left here
- Patagonia (Greater rhea) - goes yellow or orange, as the only major species missing is the Mara (sadness), and now we have 2 basic species (cougar and rhea)
- South american rainforest (ocelot, white-faced saki, american flamingo) - can go yellow. We have 2 monkeys and decent roster, but the coati remains a major gap, alongside more monkeys like tamarins and other species
- South american grasslands (ocelot, rhea, bush dog, saki?) - remains yellow, coati is missing.
- Caribbean (flamingo) - remains grey as we are still under the 2 habitat species threshold.
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American flamingo don’t really live in South American rainforest…
Agree with the rest though
They are technically coastal but we dont do coastal here so therefore they live in rainforest (adjacent)
The main thing that comes to mind for me now is a couple of birds like the roadrunner
Just want to say, before we will get more opinions, if we're going to bump up Patagonia to yellow (Regions which are missing key species) instead of orange (Regions which are still lacking compared to their biodiversity) and after changing status of South American rainforest it will result in no orange regions on the map any more.
And I think that's beautiful.
And I think that's beautiful.
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Black-footed ferret, burrowing owl, greater roadrunner.
Not that I expect or think we need any of these, or that it could be anything besides blue at this point.
Tropical. That’s the word you’re looking for.
Either way, the American flamingo is such a fringe species that it shouldn’t contribute to American diversity beyond the Caribbean and Yucatan. Similar to how people barely consider the King penguin for South America and Greater flamingo for Europe.
Wait...we do?
Please, no more dogs…
The Gray fox isn't a dog. It's a legend
The North American deserts and grasslands can easily go blue.
I'd probably make Patagonia yellow, but we're all waiting on the mara for green. There aren't many other realistic, unique, or likely options I'm aware of.
The South American forests stay orange for me. I'm still waiting on the coati and another monkey to turn it yellow. Green would take them plus another bird and monkey. Blue would take even more monkeys, perhaps another bird, and at least one more thing, probably the tamandua, Arrau turtle, or an agouti.
The South American grasslands remain yellow. It's still missing the South American coati, lowland tapir, and howler monkey. One of those would bump it to green.
To be honest I think we can move the Caribbean to a red or even a yellow, yes there might be a two habitat animal threshold. But the type of animals that live in the Caribbean aren’t gonna have a chance to be in Planet Zoo, namely flying birds or aquatic animals.
So what do we have for the Caribbean now?
- American flamingo
- Butterflies
- Donkeys (at least common where I go to school)
- Iguanas
- Cuban crocodile
- Brown Pelican (maybe, if Frontier actually wants to do something with the birds)
- Pipe dream if we get any other exhibit animals, especially hermit crabs or fish in the exhibit box.
Not much difference between orange and yellow at this point, certainly don't see us getting to target green; as hypothetical breaking points for an acceptable state I'd suggest the coati, a porcupine, piranhas, another sloth and tapir, a minimum of 2 more monkeys, and not less than 5 (free flying) birds. I wouldn't really include the flamingo here either way even if there's no other biome that properly matches.
Actually yes, when we started many regions barely had a baseline in the roster so the possibilities were endless, so we needed to differentiate between "this is almost complete and we can point to the very clear gap" and "this has some representation but is very far from its potential". Now all regions have at least a baseline (and most have far beyond that), so the orange category has less use.
We technically do consider them (after a lot of blood spilt on debates on the issue)
Along with abb tehe and more birds