Rare Commodities List!

So it's looking like 40% of rare goods are unavailable due to conflict.
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I wonder if it's worth bringing up the issue of pathetic rare good spawn rates, as even the "rares are rare" supporters must admit that rare goods are becoming endangered.

Yup, there's no point paying any attention to rares if you can only get 2 or 4 tons. Nobody is going to fly that across the Bubble. It's enough work to haul them when they spawn near maximum amounts. If they're skimpy with the spawn they will just be ignored in future.
 
Virtual rep ++ Count, I must have over-repped you in the recent past.
I'm guessing/hoping this is all an unwanted side effect of BGS changes in 2.1, and that there will be a positive reaction from FD to address this, some sort of ring-fencing of Rares to protect them against the new volatility sounds like an excellent idea.

For me it is pointless trying to maintain my own tables and republish CSV extracts, it changes over minutes, not weeks ATM, very frustrating!

I went to Ridley Scott at Zaonce just now and the system status is RETREAT and Leathery Eggs are no longer available.

Was available two days ago.
 
Azure Milk and Leestian Evil Juice back on - Leathery Eggs off - both changes from 2 days ago.

So the entire list could have changed on the Thursday tick over.
 
Or how about a dodgy geezer offering you a mission - "Here, pssst - if you can get me 50t of Narcotics, I can get you 15t of Wuthielo Ku Froth from a contact I have"
I'd really like that. It would mean that there is no such thing as a blocked rare good. Illegal rare goods would become far more interesting as you would need to smuggle them out as well as into stations.
edit - started a thread for this in the suggestions forum.
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Killed a pirate last night who dropped a couple of tons of Motrona Experience Jelly. I'm in HIP 118311, so that's 188ly from Motrona. I'm not sure if the Jelly is for sale ATM.
 
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This doesn't give any explanation as to meta changes - we know that Rares get knocked off the market, and when they have been involved in a CG they have been manually added back.

But it doesn't give any clue as to what has happened to knock 40% of Rares off at one time. Has the state of WAR suddenly become more common?

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From my perspective, I will go along with the forthcoming community goal to create a new version of Wolf Fesh, the existing action to liberate HIP 118311 Swarm and a speculative venture to see if 16 Lyrae is the home of Lyrae Weed but after that, no more. Until there is stability for rares, it's pointless doing any more than minor faction change to restart missing rares.

Some of the Rares have changed since I started the list 4 days ago (I guess that was the Thursday tick over?)

Leathery Eggs are off the menu. So me and Patsy are now sulking.
 
I notice how at Ridley Scott, Zaonce, with the system now in RETREAT, the local news stories are talking about the negative effects of the war, how people are leaving because it is not safe, and how trade and production are all suffering.

Similar at George Lucas, Leesti. Although I believe that has now been manually reinstated.

There are Rares at systems that are both WAR and Corporate and are still available. The clue does seem to be hidden deep in the news reports.

Look for the issueo of a newspaper that relates to a Thursday issue. For instance at Zaonce, there were many various newspapers and journals and reports, but it was in the ones dated the 2 June that had some general that related to the changes. There is nothing specific, no data, just general reporting. But it does seem to relate. However it doesn't help us at all, it's all for academic research only, because even knowing all that and working out the dynamic and its effects doesn't help us to reinstate a Rare!

Had to take some time off for rl and swan-diving-man flu, but got another 33 Bookwinders to eliminate, so will be back on it later and will persevere with updating the list!

Also have channeled my moaning into a bug report for Rares in general;
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=259631

Signs are it's an unknown and unintended BGS side effect, if Rares are being individually reinstated.
 
No Witchhaul Kobe Beef any more? I'm sitting in the station and it's not listed at all.

Yes, its missing. System is in war:

03 June 2016

Witchhaul Kobe Beef: Missing
Witchhaul
Hornby Terminal
Sell prices down by ~10%

Galaxy Map: War
System Map:
Controlling Faction: Witchhaul Corporation
Factions:
Witchhaul Corporation / Corporate / Federation / 64.8% / None / Boom
New Witchhaul Future / Democracy / Federation / 10.2% / Retreat / Boom
Cartel of Witchhaul / Anarchy / Independent / 6.1% / Boom / None
New Witchhaul League / Dictatorship / Independent / 4.6% / Bust / None
STKM 1-383 Electronic Inc / Corporate / Federation / 4.2% / Retreat / None
Republic Party of Aongi / Communism / Independent / 3.7% / None / None
Witchhaul Gold Public Corp. / Corporate / Independent / 3.4% / Boom / None
Co-Operative of LP 470-30 / Cooperative / Independent / 3.0% / None / None

see this thread for more details:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=237033
 
War sucks! The old trade route I used to run just isn't worth running now as half, or so it seems, of the systems are in war! Anyone have a good rare trade route they are willing to share with me?
 
War sucks! The old trade route I used to run just isn't worth running now as half, or so it seems, of the systems are in war! Anyone have a good rare trade route they are willing to share with me?

For now I can provide you with a (uncomplete) list of normal rares. At the given date I found the rare at normal supply rate:

Normal rares:

05. June 2016
Wulpa Hyperbore Systems
Wulpa
Williams Gateway

05. June 2016
Albino Quechua Mammoth Meat
Quechua
Crown Ring

05. June 2016
Jaroua Rice
jaroua
Mccool City

05. June 2016
Giant Irukama Snails
Irukama
Blaauw City

04. June 2016
Karsuki Locusts
Karsuki Ti
West Market

04. June 2016
Kamitra Cigars
Kamitra
Hammel Terminal

04. June 2016
Kachirigin Filter Leeches
Kachirigin
Nowak Orbital

04. June 2016
Eleu Thermals
Eleu
Finney Dock

03. June 2016
Tiolce Waste 2 Paste
Tiolce
Gordon Terminal

03. June 2016
Giant Verrix
Phiagre
Greeboski's Outpost

03. June 2016
Coquim Spongiform Victuals
Coquim
Hirayama Installation

03. June 2016
Utgaroar Millennial Eggs
Utgaroar
Fort Klarix

03. June 2016
Tarach Spice
Tarach Tor
Tranquillity

03. June 2016
Tanmark Tranquil Tea
Lucan Onionhead
Tanmark
Cassie-L-Peia

03. June 2016
Tauri Chimes
39 Tauri
Porta

02. June 2016
Momus Bog Spaniel
Momus Reach
Tartarus Point

02. June 2016
Terra Mater
Gr8minds
Terra Mater Blood Bores

02. June 2016
Bast
Hart Station
Bast Snake Gin

01. June 2016
Eranin
Azeban City
Eranin Pearl Whiskey

31. May 2016
Altair
Solo Orbiter
Altairian Skin

31. May 2016
George Pantazis
Zamka Platform
Pantaa Prayer Sticks

31. May 2016
Zeessze
Nicollier Hanger
Zeessze Ant Grub Glue

31. May 2016
AZ Cancri
Fisher Station
Az Cancri Formula 42

31. May 2016
Neritus
Toll Ring
Neritus Berries

31. May 2016
Arouca
Shipton Orbital
Arouca Conventual Sweets

31. May 2016
Orrere
Sharon Lee Free Market
Orrerian Vicious Brew

30. May 2016
Diso
Shifnalport
Diso Ma Corn

With this you can skip those in your route which are not in the list.
 
Deuringas has no listing for it's Truffles because the system state is listed as NONE - a bit miffed about this as I am particularly fond of truffles. ;)

The galaxy map shows state as "WAR" but system shows none and no war appears in the minor factions list - all have "NONE" under influence.
 
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I'm currently at Belalans : Boscovich Ring and there are no Belalans Ray Leather rare commodity. I've searched this forum and didn't find anything about them being suppressed. Can anyone confirm or refute this?
 
I'm currently at Belalans : Boscovich Ring and there are no Belalans Ray Leather rare commodity. I've searched this forum and didn't find anything about them being suppressed. Can anyone confirm or refute this?

Yes they are missing because of war:

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05 June 2016

Belalans Ray Leather: Missing
Belalans
Boscovich Ring
Sell prices down by ~10%

Galaxy Map: War
System Map:
Controlling Faction: Belalans Patron's Principles
Factions:
Belalans Patron's Principles / Patronage / Empire / 60.6% / None / Boom
Belalans Industries / Corporate / Empire / 17.8% / Boom / None
Belalans Energy Co / Corporate / Independent / 8.2% / None / None
Blido Piru Flag / Dictatorship / Independent / 4.2% / None / Boom
Yen K'uie Crimson Boys / Anarchy / Independent / 3.8% / Boom / None
Revolutionary Belalans Labour / Democracy / Independent / 3.0% / None / None
Belalans Ring / Anarchy / Independent / 2.4% / None / None

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Deuringas has no listing for it's Truffles because the system state is listed as NONE - a bit miffed about this as I am particularly fond of truffles. ;)

The galaxy map shows state as "WAR" but system shows none and no war appears in the minor factions list - all have "NONE" under influence.

I learned that it may be in another system that the faction responsible for the rare is in war.

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05 June 2016

Deuringas Truffles: Missing
Deuringas
Shukor Hub
Sell prices down by ~10%

Galaxy Map: War
System Map:
Controlling Faction: Deuringas Silver Raiders
Factions:
Deuringas Silver Raiders / Anarchy / Independent / 57.1% / None / Boom,Civil Unrest,Lockdown
Deuringas Advanced Commodities / Corporate / Independent / 19.2% / None / None
Movement for Deuringas Resistance / Democracy / Federation / 10.5% / None / Boom
Official Deuringas Justice Party / Dictatorship / Independent / 6.9% / None / None
United Deuringas Movement / Dictatorship / Independent / 6.3% / None / None

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Yes they are missing because of war:

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05 June 2016

Belalans Ray Leather: Missing
Belalans
Boscovich Ring
Sell prices down by ~10%

Galaxy Map: War
System Map:
Controlling Faction: Belalans Patron's Principles
Factions:
Belalans Patron's Principles / Patronage / Empire / 60.6% / None / Boom
Belalans Industries / Corporate / Empire / 17.8% / Boom / None
Belalans Energy Co / Corporate / Independent / 8.2% / None / None
Blido Piru Flag / Dictatorship / Independent / 4.2% / None / Boom
Yen K'uie Crimson Boys / Anarchy / Independent / 3.8% / Boom / None
Revolutionary Belalans Labour / Democracy / Independent / 3.0% / None / None
Belalans Ring / Anarchy / Independent / 2.4% / None / None

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Thanks for the quick response.

Strange that when searching this forum thread that doesn't come up?
 
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For now I can provide you with a (uncomplete) list of normal rares. At the given date I found the rare at normal supply rate:

Normal rares:

05. June 2016
Wulpa Hyperbore Systems
Wulpa
Williams Gateway

05. June 2016
Albino Quechua Mammoth Meat
Quechua
Crown Ring

05. June 2016
Jaroua Rice
jaroua
Mccool City

05. June 2016
Giant Irukama Snails
Irukama
Blaauw City

04. June 2016
Karsuki Locusts
Karsuki Ti
West Market

04. June 2016
Kamitra Cigars
Kamitra
Hammel Terminal

04. June 2016
Kachirigin Filter Leeches
Kachirigin
Nowak Orbital

04. June 2016
Eleu Thermals
Eleu
Finney Dock

03. June 2016
Tiolce Waste 2 Paste
Tiolce
Gordon Terminal

03. June 2016
Giant Verrix
Phiagre
Greeboski's Outpost

03. June 2016
Coquim Spongiform Victuals
Coquim
Hirayama Installation

03. June 2016
Utgaroar Millennial Eggs
Utgaroar
Fort Klarix

03. June 2016
Tarach Spice
Tarach Tor
Tranquillity

03. June 2016
Tanmark Tranquil Tea
Lucan Onionhead
Tanmark
Cassie-L-Peia

03. June 2016
Tauri Chimes
39 Tauri
Porta

02. June 2016
Momus Bog Spaniel
Momus Reach
Tartarus Point

02. June 2016
Terra Mater
Gr8minds
Terra Mater Blood Bores

02. June 2016
Bast
Hart Station
Bast Snake Gin

01. June 2016
Eranin
Azeban City
Eranin Pearl Whiskey

31. May 2016
Altair
Solo Orbiter
Altairian Skin

31. May 2016
George Pantazis
Zamka Platform
Pantaa Prayer Sticks

31. May 2016
Zeessze
Nicollier Hanger
Zeessze Ant Grub Glue

31. May 2016
AZ Cancri
Fisher Station
Az Cancri Formula 42

31. May 2016
Neritus
Toll Ring
Neritus Berries

31. May 2016
Arouca
Shipton Orbital
Arouca Conventual Sweets

31. May 2016
Orrere
Sharon Lee Free Market
Orrerian Vicious Brew

30. May 2016
Diso
Shifnalport
Diso Ma Corn

With this you can skip those in your route which are not in the list.

Delta Phoenicis, Trading Post, Delta Phoenicis Palms - No longer available as of 08/06/16, State = Retreat
 
Delta Phoenicis, Trading Post, Delta Phoenicis Palms - No longer available as of 08/06/16, State = Retreat

Dang, I loved those.

Are the rares profits (buy/sell prices) effected by the new market mechanics? I just got over 17000 profit for giant verrix, which is more than I recall getting for a rare in the past, and I could easily have taken them further from the source.
 
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Hello Commanders,

* Reposting this from a post I made in the Player Tools & API Development branch.

Excuse me if this is already available elsewhere, but I've just made an Excel spreadsheet that helps to find the nearest other Rare Goods systems, ranked from closest to furthest, from a chosen Rare Goods system name. The calculation is based on straight line sector coordinates. I would love to rank it using the distance in Ly but I don't know that calculation. If someone could point me to that information, it'll be my pleasure to include it.


The spreadsheet is at this dropbox link:

https://goo.gl/ZVpWef

And of course, I'ld like to thank the good folks at elitedangerous.wikia.com for the data.

* Data obtained from http://elitedangerous.wikia.com/wiki...are_Commoditieon Sat 4 June 2016


Hope its useful.


Sryn
 
Peeps I exposed a Web API on the Rare commodities data I have taken from your thread.

So
1. www.hozbase.co.uk/elitedangerous/Api/RareCommodities - This lists just the names of all the known rare commodities.
2. http://www.hozbase.co.uk/elitedangerous/Api/RareCommodities/Details - This shows the details of all the known rare commodities.
3. http://www.hozbase.co.uk/elitedangerous/Api/RareCommodities/Details/Ultra-Compact%20Processor - This exposes the details of a particular single rare commodity by name, in this case: 'Ultra-Compact Processor'. To list a different one, just change the name at the end of the URL

I know for sure it is not up to date at the moment because of all the rares that went missing after the 2.1 update. For example, yesterday I was in Lave (trying my hand at the latest buckyball race) and there was no Lavian Brandy available for sale. I haven't changed the availability status yet, I am waiting for 2.1 to settle down. I think the BGS is borked at the moment, I have seen some posts by the power play guys and some of them seem a little peeved.

Also would be nice if you guys created a definitive list of data somewhere with the availability status, I would gladly publish it through the Web API (but the master copy should always be available through the thread).

For those of you who are not techies, a Web API is a way to expose data and functions to other programs or web-sites (rather than human users) so they can use it for their own nefarious purposes. So if you look at the links you will recognise the data but it won't look easy to read.

thanks
Capitan Ace Rimmer
 
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