Re: System Colonization .... Can we PLEASE name the system and stations?
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The System Architect cannot be removed from a star system once he or she claims and builds a starport. That's effectively being the owner. The controlling faction may change, but the architect stays in charge of all the development.
The faction powerplay stuff cannot remove the architect from being in charge of system development.
Like many people said, we want the player (architect) to be able to name a system.
If we're only allowed to grind and deliver goods for months to plop down a couple of facilities on barren planets without other tangible rewards then this system colonisation feature will get boring quickly. When you put in weeks / months of time to build up a colony you should at least have the ability to name it. The former colonies in the Americas and Asia were named by colonists as well.
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I shall name my system "Sekuhara's Victory", in honour of Alien and his stupidity.
We believe it should be as it is now, however, even choosing a name of a system from a list will also have its own set of failure points in terms of players being left the responsibility - "It only takes one to b'stardize it all" is what I uttered when visiting something a player named recently.
In other titles, they give you predetermined names in sections from a dropdown - One dropdown has the first part of the name and the second has the last part, and this brings iterations of different names but with the game lore's feel (Helldivers 2 Destroyer names) - Not ideal either in my view. It's a difficult one, for both Frontier and the players. I watch with interest, but feel it will be 'as-is' in terms of names of systems. Not only that, SCIENCE and FACT come into play too, as many players visit systems that have meaning in real science. New discoveries and exoplanets being discovered from JWT means naming of systems to "CHICKEN'S TEETH" will just make a mockery of all that to players like myself, who embrace the real designations - So allowing players to name things? Unacceptable.
Solution for both sides of the fence.
Game option: "Display player named objects (Yes/No)"
No: Colonized systems have their default names. Built stations get a default name like SO5-3TY (like what is generated for our FCs).
Yes: Station McStationface
Everyone can be happy.
Overall though, we can name our ships, we can name our FCs, I'd like to name my systems and stations.
And for those crying "But muh immershun", your immersion is hit when you see player named ships and FCs?
If someone with the means and resources to build stations or colonize systems wanted to name them, i'm pretty sure they could and would. Like the "Name a star" thing that exists in real life, if it were ever made official by official star catalogues, you'd have to look up into the sky and say, "Ah yes, "There is the constellation of Aquarius, and in it, the brightest star in the constellation, Your Finger You Fool."
Think of the future of humanity. One day we might have to see stars officially named "Pepsi" and "Coca-Cola". We might not like it, but it could happen. There have been some sci-fi stories with this sort of theme, where mega corporations rule space.
Perhaps one restriction could be that naming stars can only happen with the proc gen named systems. So, you wouldn't be able to rename anything with an official designation. All others, up for grabs.
Game option: "Display player named objects (Yes/No)"
No: Colonized systems have their default names. Built stations get a default name like SO5-3TY (like what is generated for our FCs).
Yes: Station McStationface
Everyone can be happy.
Overall though, we can name our ships, we can name our FCs, I'd like to name my systems and stations.
And for those crying "But muh immershun", your immersion is hit when you see player named ships and FCs?
If someone with the means and resources to build stations or colonize systems wanted to name them, i'm pretty sure they could and would. Like the "Name a star" thing that exists in real life, if it were ever made official by official star catalogues, you'd have to look up into the sky and say, "Ah yes, "There is the constellation of Aquarius, and in it, the brightest star in the constellation, Your Finger You Fool."
Think of the future of humanity. One day we might have to see stars officially named "Pepsi" and "Coca-Cola". We might not like it, but it could happen. There have been some sci-fi stories with this sort of theme, where mega corporations rule space.
Perhaps one restriction could be that naming stars can only happen with the proc gen named systems. So, you wouldn't be able to rename anything with an official designation. All others, up for grabs.
Yes, very much so. I wish I could turn off FCs in the HUD the same way I can turn them off in the nav panel.
This.
Then as i suggested, a solution would be to have an option to display player generated names vs default names.
PS: Be careful next time you're down the marina. Try not to pay attention to the names of some boats.
Also, where do the immersion crowd draw the line? What is acceptable?
"Cobra Mk3"
"Susan"
"Unsinkable 2"?
"USS Enterprise"?
"Tally ho!"?
"Your mum"?
"Millennium Falcon"?
"GSV The Ends of Invention"?
"GCU Of Course I Still Love You"?
"Ive Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts"?
Where do you draw the line?
Do you draw the line at different places for ships, FCs, stars, planets, space stations and installations?
Should all places have to be named after Greek or Roman personages, because that's traditional? Or can we get a little more exotic than that?
"Cobra Mk3"
"Susan"
"Unsinkable 2"?
"USS Enterprise"?
"Tally ho!"?
"Your mum"?
"Millennium Falcon"?
"GSV The Ends of Invention"?
"GCU Of Course I Still Love You"?
"Ive Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts"?
Where do you draw the line?
Do you draw the line at different places for ships, FCs, stars, planets, space stations and installations?
Should all places have to be named after Greek or Roman personages, because that's traditional? Or can we get a little more exotic than that?
My line was drawn at the cosmetic engine colours and weapon effects - I gave up on Open and Mobius PG and have been almost exclusively in Solo ever since. Added benefit of not seeing player-named ships, too.
The last dockyard I was in had very well named vessels, very in-keeping with established conventions.
Going down the marina is not something I’m likely to be troubled with, ever
Those filters don't do the job, they require human intervention. I've reported two, and one of them was outright hate crime. No swears in it. That's the problem with automated filters.
And as for "well, real life has silly names" yes it does, and you know what happens with street names that become hugely inappropriate? They get changed.
This is great! You could even add some lore by simulating naming committees: have 12 lists (for Powers) or to save a bit of work, 3 lists, for Superpowers. That is how it works in real life, after all.
Some people still have "alternate name for rooster" as a surname.
System names like Col 285 Sector LB-O c6-1 that sounds robotic. If we could rename it that would be better. Maybe give it the name of the System Architect.
That's good, but the System Architect should have the privilege to put his or her commander name there.
Another idea is Architect name + controlling faction = system name.
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Got a chuckle out of me.
Do we? I've come across a few carriers before with politically charged names. They're ignorable to an extent (if your destination isn't right next to it, which unfortunately it is in my case). And I hate to say it but it does the intended job of slightly irritating me whenever it pops up in my HUD.
For naming systems it's even more important that player chosen names get vetted if those names are the sole identifier (unlike FCs). And presuming that system names need to remain permanent so shouldn't be changed down the line (again, unlike FCs).
I actually like the idea of naming a system but after realising what many of my fellow meatsack inhabitants are like in this timeline we live in, maybe not so much.
All names need to be in Cockney rhyming slang.