Will there be baggie skins as well?
Reddit info is not very promising can FDEV shed light on it
- Thread starter EdzUp
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Will there be baggie skins as well?
Well, it's open to doubt.
It's pretty obvious to me, actually. Frontier has a well-known (and often frustrating) policy of not discussing with the public what they are currently working on. And for good reason: we all still remember the "offline play" lynching. Never over-promise... it's better to surprise than disappoint.
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They haven't even enabled all skins for ships, I doubt skins for baggies are their priority.
A little bit of "satisfy" in between wouldn't hurt though. ^^
But yeah, even if they have it figured out already (and nothing says they have, on the contrary), it's a weird politic to keep people in the dark.
People aren't happy in the dark.
If you don't like it, don't buy it; seems straightforward to me. I prefer this method of sales over the subscription or micro transaction model.
I can understand why a developer won't share all the information about what they're doing. So, let's say Frontier are working on first-person walking about. They tell their player base, "Hey, this will be ready on X date." Imagine what would happen if, say, there's a snag, or it's more difficult to get it to work than Frontier first imagined. You have two choices - release a buggy, incomplete version, or you infuriate your customers by delaying. Neither of those outcomes is desirable, and both have led to games developers going down the pan. It's much easier (and better, IMHO) to be conservative with that information.
I can understand why a developer won't share all the information about what they're doing. So, let's say Frontier are working on first-person walking about. They tell their player base, "Hey, this will be ready on X date." Imagine what would happen if, say, there's a snag, or it's more difficult to get it to work than Frontier first imagined. You have two choices - release a buggy, incomplete version, or you infuriate your customers by delaying. Neither of those outcomes is desirable, and both have led to games developers going down the pan. It's much easier (and better, IMHO) to be conservative with that information.
I agree i want to know what i am buying. I almost paid for this expansion earlier today. I am holding off now until i get full info on what this expansions.
If that redit post is correct I dont think i will put my money into this game anymore.
I like how a spelling mistake was intentionally carried through 2 additional posts by two other people. Excellent.
It's looking interesting, but you're right on the colors. The music sounds even worse.. I'm cringing just thinking of it - like worse than EDs launch trailer
I don't have a problem with the concept of Seasons, but I think it is very strange that Horizons might not deliver the full planetary landings experience. To be honest it feels like a bait and switch. The whole reason this new season is called Horizons is because it's about planetary landings - they said so in the stream. As a customer I would expect the full planetary landings experience - airless or not - to be delivered as part of that season. That's what I'm paying for. To make atmospheric landing part of Season 3 and devote the 2nd half of Horizons to something else does not feel right- at worst it feels like a bait and switch because you know people that paid for PL in Horizons are going to be compelled to pay for atmospheric landings in Season 3 to complete the experience.
It just feels ... wrong. I hope this is not really true.
It just feels ... wrong. I hope this is not really true.
What is the matter with people.
This is frontier developments not Blizzard entertainment, they don't have half the development team or the funding yet they are releasing content, patches and expansions as promised. They're a smaller team and they want to do things right so it will take a bit longer and i don't mind that.
Seasons is fine for me.
Besides, look at the facts, there are Far more lifeless rocky moons and planet's out there than one with atmosphere. That means you get to land on more sooner, if they had done it the other way around you wouldn't have as many to land on!
This is frontier developments not Blizzard entertainment, they don't have half the development team or the funding yet they are releasing content, patches and expansions as promised. They're a smaller team and they want to do things right so it will take a bit longer and i don't mind that.
Seasons is fine for me.
Besides, look at the facts, there are Far more lifeless rocky moons and planet's out there than one with atmosphere. That means you get to land on more sooner, if they had done it the other way around you wouldn't have as many to land on!
Not sure .. season name, Horizons, to me suggests what the expansion will be; (1) New horizons (landing driving on planets) .. but (2) horizon is also suggests, distance to travel yet (the add of atmospheres, plant / animal life etc. later)
I think you're worrying too much Cmdr.
Like you, I don't know what will be added beside planet-ary landings in 2.0, but there are threads everywhere of people wanting massive game mechanics, all over. The reason for me it makes sense, for FD to add a first raft of game mechanics to rocky planets in Season 2 (second half), is because many of those same mechanics and features can slot right in to atmosphere worlds in the next season (3).
But then, if Season 3 pans out the same way, second half of that can bring in mechanics more specific to atmosphere worlds.
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Bait and switch? (Nah .. grab a cup of coffee, chill with us Commander and enjoy the process)
.. It looks a logical process (see above) and it has been common knowledge for a while; rocky planets would come first atmospheres later. The fact planets are being built over two seasons, rather than one, says much more to me about the ambition FD has for the game.
(eg. Station Services screen; those digital page-loading effects (cool huh?) speak of FD ambition .. Second half of the season is about adding more commodities, more rares, more missions, more ships, more modules, more factions, more and different, traffic reports ...)
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Ohh, could you imagine the outcry if there was a buggy skin before an Anaconda skin!
It is because you want expansions just for landings only? I don't think so. There's so much to be done to make landings actually interesting to play. That will cost a lot of money and time. There will be other game features related to PL coming for each season.
If you think they are doing just that - ship lands and you wonder around in awe - then it won't make for an interesting game, would it. They need to have some activities down there
I can understand those who are disappointed, though I am not.
I'm not a programmer, but I can very easily imagine the amount of work they would need to model atmospheric flight, especially as a transition from vacuum. Heck, just modelling that atmosphere from close up is going to be a tremendously huge, monumental piece of work, let alone adding in all the requirements for atmospheric reentry and so on.
It'll come in time. I could imagine that we would all want more powerful machines by the time it's implemented as well.
I'm not a programmer, but I can very easily imagine the amount of work they would need to model atmospheric flight, especially as a transition from vacuum. Heck, just modelling that atmosphere from close up is going to be a tremendously huge, monumental piece of work, let alone adding in all the requirements for atmospheric reentry and so on.
It'll come in time. I could imagine that we would all want more powerful machines by the time it's implemented as well.
All of that would be perfectly valid if they had not actually told us we were only getting non atmospheric planets
I think the concept is perfectly fine. I think that springing it onto people who expected that you would buy a 'landings' expansion and a 'walkies' expansion (as virtually everyone who read about it in the kickstarter, etc., would expect) is naughty. But, unfortunately, I have come to expect that from FD. So we have an 'annual subscription for new features' not an 'expansion', and, yes, if you want the whole of planetary landings, you will have to either:
a) Buy the lifetime pass
b) Buy at least two season passes
c) wait until landings is complete, and then buy the last season pass
Those sound perfectly reasonably options to me, if they had always explained it that way. They just chose not to. Same old, same old.
Or maybe their plans evolved as time went by. I am not FDs biggest fan and there is plenty missing from the game but I am happy for FD to fund the game however they think best. No funding no game going forward.
You probably feel that way because it is, essentially, true. Those 'more players', in general, don't give a damn what 'an Elite game' should be as they have no history with Elite and no interest in the lore. They just want the features they like in other games added in. And who can blame them. This is an inevitable consequence of FD chasing the money. It is possible that FD may eventually get around to completing most of the game they sold the kickstarters. But if they do, it will be dribs and drabs intermingled with all this stuff for the MMO audience that were once upon a time red lines that they 'did not want in the game we are building'. We just have to hope there is enough of the stuff we wanted to keep our interest.
If you honestly think that Frontier are just doing this to 'chase the money' (which by the way ALL companies need to pay their staff etc.) , then why are you still here.