thats how solo players react. Very nice!
You are like broken recorder. Broken weeks ago and still playing the same sequence...
Modes Reworking the game modes
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thats how solo players react. Very nice!
You are like broken recorder. Broken weeks ago and still playing the same sequence...
Pot == Kettle
thats how solo players react. Very nice!
You are like broken recorder. Broken weeks ago and still playing the same sequence...
Is he still ?
im not against any mode, he obviously is. Even he wrote he isnt, but his comments is highly toxic. I came back in this topic and see nothing changes over weeks... bye
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Sometimes, all you need is some quotes.
+thats how solo players react. Very nice!
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Ofcourse it wont change, there are a bunch of cheaters and exploiters sitting here defending the modes, while people stick a problem after problem in their face with links and videos and solid proof, but lets not confuse them with facts.
The modes system is patent pending LMAO, patent pending of how to kill any multiplayer content of whats left of the half broken PVE grind which already exists. Definitely patented.
"I dont like pvp but let me go and gank somone in SOLO exploiting broken game mechanics" classic.
"I dont want to play with others but is perfectely fine playing against others when ruining their progress" from a safe spot.
Ah...this is like the argument that was raised by the Mercsof Mikuun...back in the early days of PowerPlay! Fifth column play is valid!
You think it's cheating....in this game...it isn't! Get yourself fighting the proper fight in this game...the PVE trophy collection. Stop raging against the machine...it ain't listening...and all you will do is be a ground up piece of metal in the waste oil of the sump! LOL!
Jenner
I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Let's not level blanket accusations of 'cheating' against forum posters. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Thank you.
That's the thing you are missing.. You're only looking at this from your own perspective.. ignoring all the others.. If people use bots for their own progression in Solo that's also affecting others. You cannot do anything in this game without affecting the shared galaxy.. You do a trade run? missions? bounty hunting? all of that affects the economy, the influence of factions through the BGS and everything.
That's the reason why the player group in the thread you linked is going about it the right way.. They want the actual PROBLEM to be dealt with, aka. the BOTS.. for everyone! And yes, if proper anti-cheat methods are developed that would halt the usage of bots even in solo. Keep in mind that just because you cannot see a player in Open doesn't mean Fdev doesn't know what they're doing either. And yes, obviously this anti-cheat / cheat fight is an endless one.. you develop a temporary solution.. new and more elaborate bots surface, but the idea is to make them work more on upgrading their bots and recreating their accounts than the amount of cheat-time they get out of it with each step so eventually they decide it's not worth it. Lots of games already have successful anti-cheat mechanics in place so it's nothing new.
Now back to the subject..
You linked the thread.. you read it.. so tell me honestly how would forcing people into open would be a solution to your problem?
The proof is right there in the thread YOU linked.. These bots WERE acting in open without anyone forcing them there.. yet a mere 10-15 of them almost annihilated one of the largest player factions who were responsible for bringing Mahon to power and who WERE willing to fight back with any means necessary and not just wanting free kills.. They put in the work, the effort.. did 70-100 missions a DAY.. and they barely got through it, like you said: with some help from Fdev..
So I ask again.. if they couldn't fight them IN Open - the exact scenario you're demanding here - what chance do you have? That's the perfect test data for you proving that removing the modes would not solve your problem, since modes aren't the problem if your issue truly IS the one you claim, but bots are.. those should be removed.. the bots.. not the modes..
What removing modes WOULD do is give you more innocent targets to hunt.. abuse and bully.. without helping Power-play in any way.. that's why pretty much everyone here thinks that this is your true agenda and you're not all that concerned with the workings of power-play..
Do you understand why people in this thread aren't supporting you now?... just tell us.. simple yes or no..
Here, I'll give you one more summary: We honestly believe that you have no intention of "fixing" Power-Play.. and that every attempt to fix this "problem" by removing the modes around here is just another excuse to try and trick the developers into giving you more people to prey on. The reason we think that is because that's the only logical reason for it and we're not idiots and the developers aren't either. In the event that our thought process is incorrect and you actually DO mean well, then the above example with the bots should be clear proof enough to you that removing modes would NOT solve the problem, like you claim it would.. You should focus on solving the actual problem (bots) and not trying to get the developers to remove every other working aspect of the game that has a potential to amplify the problem, because if they remove those.. the problem will still exist and they destroyed their content for nothing.. if they solve the problem instead.. there will be nothing to be amplified..
Does that make sense to you? I really hope it does
Cheers!
Open encourages PvP.*
Ignoring, what ever one doesn't like, does not help the fact.
If I would take it, seriously, some posters here exactly know whats appropriate by labeling, what ever they like, and see fit.
Which is not what Open is all about. Sorry.
Thankfully, your social skills, all share the opposition. Face to face, if you are lucky. Socializing is a gamble. As much as , our game is.
In Open your challenged, in Solo your left alone.
Getting same, similar results in Solo much as in Open? How comes? Proof of, you yourself left alone, is a thing, right?
*underdeveloped
Ignoring, what ever one doesn't like, does not help the fact.
If I would take it, seriously, some posters here exactly know whats appropriate by labeling, what ever they like, and see fit.
Which is not what Open is all about. Sorry.
Thankfully, your social skills, all share the opposition. Face to face, if you are lucky. Socializing is a gamble. As much as , our game is.
In Open your challenged, in Solo your left alone.
Getting same, similar results in Solo much as in Open? How comes? Proof of, you yourself left alone, is a thing, right?
*underdeveloped
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Hmm you ignore my post... you clamor all about time being put in to PF's but since it doesn't suit your play style you blatantly ignore all the time people put into their ships before you haphazardly destroy them. You are being a hypocrite.
Rename the factions "purple" and "green" and you'll have my vote.
A Babylon 5 reference? They are not picking their factions out of a barrel are they?
There are many ways to socialized other that Competition... if you think that is the only way I feel sorry for you, but I understand why you are confused.
You have already admitted to cheating and exploiting so calling a bunch of others that with no proof is again.. hypocritical. Was there cheating that you posted proof of? If so it was of someone botting which is cheating, but apparently you think we all do it. You take facts and twist them into something else to try and "prove" your agenda then complain that people are not accepting facts. Which is full of horse manure.. We accept facts, what we DO NOT accept is your twisted bias as to what the facts "prove". Both you and 90 are notorious for doing it yet you still lament and can't understand why no one is swallowing any of the buffalo chips that your trying to shove down our throats.
That's the thing you are missing.. You're only looking at this from your own perspective.. ignoring all the others.. If people use bots for their own progression in Solo that's also affecting others. You cannot do anything in this game without affecting the shared galaxy.. You do a trade run? missions? bounty hunting? all of that affects the economy, the influence of factions through the BGS and everything.
That's the reason why the player group in the thread you linked is going about it the right way.. They want the actual PROBLEM to be dealt with, aka. the BOTS.. for everyone! And yes, if proper anti-cheat methods are developed that would halt the usage of bots even in solo. Keep in mind that just because you cannot see a player in Open doesn't mean Fdev doesn't know what they're doing either. And yes, obviously this anti-cheat / cheat fight is an endless one.. you develop a temporary solution.. new and more elaborate bots surface, but the idea is to make them work more on upgrading their bots and recreating their accounts than the amount of cheat-time they get out of it with each step so eventually they decide it's not worth it. Lots of games already have successful anti-cheat mechanics in place so it's nothing new.
Now back to the subject..
You linked the thread.. you read it.. so tell me honestly how would forcing people into open would be a solution to your problem?
The proof is right there in the thread YOU linked.. These bots WERE acting in open without anyone forcing them there.. yet a mere 10-15 of them almost annihilated one of the largest player factions who were responsible for bringing Mahon to power and who WERE willing to fight back with any means necessary and not just wanting free kills.. They put in the work, the effort.. did 70-100 missions a DAY.. and they barely got through it, like you said: with some help from Fdev..
So I ask again.. if they couldn't fight them IN Open - the exact scenario you're demanding here - what chance do you have? That's the perfect test data for you proving that removing the modes would not solve your problem, since modes aren't the problem if your issue truly IS the one you claim, but bots are.. those should be removed.. the bots.. not the modes..
What removing modes WOULD do is give you more innocent targets to hunt.. abuse and bully.. without helping Power-play in any way.. that's why pretty much everyone here thinks that this is your true agenda and you're not all that concerned with the workings of power-play..
Do you understand why people in this thread aren't supporting you now?... just tell us.. simple yes or no..
Here, I'll give you one more summary: We honestly believe that you have no intention of "fixing" Power-Play.. and that every attempt to fix this "problem" by removing the modes around here is just another excuse to try and trick the developers into giving you more people to prey on. The reason we think that is because that's the only logical reason for it and we're not idiots and the developers aren't either. In the event that our thought process is incorrect and you actually DO mean well, then the above example with the bots should be clear proof enough to you that removing modes would NOT solve the problem, like you claim it would.. You should focus on solving the actual problem (bots) and not trying to get the developers to remove every other working aspect of the game that has a potential to amplify the problem, because if they remove those.. the problem will still exist and they destroyed their content for nothing.. if they solve the problem instead.. there will be nothing to be amplified..
Does that make sense to you? I really hope it does
Cheers!
Very well said and sadly I can't rep you again so 1000 lbs of Cubeo Razorback Bacon.
Again very well said and sadly I can't rep you again either so all I can give is another 1000 lbs of Cubeo Razorback Bacon... this is cutting into my profits
I wish you were right but sadly you aren't. Open is not encouraging PVP... it could have but early on the abusers of PVP set up shop and drove many who would have PVPed away. You keep trying to equate Open to socializing, yet it isn't really.. yes there is socializing, the same as if someone was in a PG many times. Also In all modes you are challenged... just because it isn't a player doing it doesn't mean there is no challenge. Those of you who think otherwise are foolish and have an agenda, because many in solo do find challenge.
Oh man... its all too easy.
I've never been against anything, every time I've posted to remove open is in response to the same ridiculous idea of doing anything to the other modes.
If demanding Solo / PGs be hindered / removed / have content locked away from them - the my idea of remove open is as valid (and less work).
The toxic attitude is coming from people who made massive assumptions about the game and now blame everyone but themselves.
I read what I was buying, Frontier made it quite clear. If people don't like what Frontier are making, then move on - other games exist.
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Nope... Open is not about people... yes you can play with others but it isn't "about" people..
And as for "our" fate... everyone no matter the mode they play in share the same fate.
Players not in Open do, not count.
Open is about you being here.
Say, folks cant get their heads around it, whom is to blame?
What is, what you to now?
Game the game?
You're handy?
Get yourself lost. If you still can.
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