Good. Sony doesn't get to play the Too Expensive Card after they told people to "go get a second job" in order to afford a Playstation 3...
Rift Higher Price than Expected? $600
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Good. Sony doesn't get to play the Too Expensive Card after they told people to "go get a second job" in order to afford a Playstation 3...
I can't be bothered with any more back and forth, just to say that I'm getting one for free anyway but I would definitely have paid £499 for it. I recently said that £400 was my "have a think about it" price point, but on reflection of what the product is, what it contains in terms of not only individual items, but the bespoke (at this stage) components and technology within I, hand on heart, still think £499 is a good deal.
Feel free to come back to this post when the Vive is released, I will heartily apologise if wrong about the price, but I'm almost certain I won't be. VR is in the early stages and nobody's going to be giving you a free device... well, apart from Oculus is some people's cases obviously.
And you are not the market they are trying to reach, neither with the CV1 nor the Vive Pre, your own posts make that clear, off the shelf parts? There are no off the shelf parts in these VR sets, these are the first commercial versions. Give it another 5 or so years, you MIGHT get your off the shelf parts wish, as 2020 is when nVidia themselves expect most home computers to be capable of running VR properly, compared to all of 13 million of the current home computers out today, that's less than 1% of the total home computers that exist today by the way. Which as it happens is a massively huge market for the CV1 to tap into, as most of those 13 million systems are owned by people who WANT VR and have built systems specifically for it, so they don't mind another $600 expense, that's less than the price of a 980 Ti or Titan X, and quite a few of them have two of those in their system, all ready for the best possible VR experience.
Do you, or anyone else, really think that anyone at OR is actually worried about the whining about the price? They can't keep up with the orders, literally can't keep up with the orders. 13 million systems out there ready for the CV1 right now, if only 1% of them order one, they're good. If 10% of them order one, they're golden. Since they can't keep up with the orders within a few hours of taking them, I'm guessing no one at OR is at all worried about the reception of the price, and you can count on HTC looking at that and upping their price already, if the CV1 orders break 50k this week, I'd think the Vive Pre price could easily be $1200 without anyone skipping a beat and plunking down their money, after all, you'll be getting the VR set which includes that front camera, 2 positional trackers AND the dual controller setup. OR isn't offering their controllers yet, you know those will cost a few hundred too, so that's one hell of a deal for the Vive Pre!
Aye the Shipping to AUS & NZ is a little excessive
I have paid less (half) for larger, heavier items, protective packaging and all
20% of the item in shipping again?
I understand that. I was making it known that I would pay $400 or less for a headset that was made with off-the-shelf parts to keep costs down.
Yes I do.
Definitely.
I expected it to cost 500 euros at most. 700 euros is a price I am not prepared to pay at all.
My prediction for the vive is £800-1000 and portal 3 bundled in. VR is expensive.
Well I pre-ordered, the way I see it is mine won't be shipping to May (if I'm lucky) So pretty much 5 months down the line I'm hopeful by then FD will know if they can or want to having it working with ED by then
Other people will of received theirs by then and will have chance to read some feedback on testing, Vive should of also been released or pre-orders certainly available with a costing of the unit
And if all else fails and it comes sooner than expected the is always somebody on eBay willing to pay to get your money back and more
Other people will of received theirs by then and will have chance to read some feedback on testing, Vive should of also been released or pre-orders certainly available with a costing of the unit
And if all else fails and it comes sooner than expected the is always somebody on eBay willing to pay to get your money back and more
I don't think it's the cost of the unit so much as the promise of a low cost unit that was promptly tossed aside in favor of gaming the market during high demand.
Initial estimates (FROM OCULUS) were that it would be ballpark 350. 250 more than that is not ballpark, unless you're very wealthy, which the majority of people looking to buy it are not.
From what I can see, it's for no good reason other than they bundled it with EvE (yawn) and some other no-name game.
Sure it's cutting edge, and yes the Vive will likely be just as expensive, if not more (especially when people inevitably bankrupt their play money accounts just to have the Rift). But HTC and Valve aren't telling us that the cost will be 70% lower than what they are actually going to charge come release.
Plus, it's owned by facebook. I dropped my facebook account about a year after it initially launched, because I could tell pimple-faced zuckerberg had nothing but dollar signs in his eyes. The man doesn't do a single damn thing that doesn't scream self-interest.
I can afford the Rift, and I WANT to experience VR very, very badly. But I'd rather buy a $700 Vive than a $100 Rift from Facebook.
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What you outputting to, to need a £400 GPU without VR?
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This is the BIG CHANCE for Sony! If they release PSVR for 300-400$, they'll be the Winner in selling VR! Even without over the top VR they'll sell much much more Headsets than Oculus and Steam together! It Must be affordable to succeed and I'm quite sure Sony knows it and will do it right! Maybe we'll see it tonight at CES and they'll do it again, just like they did it with the PS4 Price at Release!
Good thing it's $1 short of $600.
I dislike Facebook and most things about Zuckerberg too. But it has to be acknowledged that, amongst other super-rich people, he's pledged to give away 99% of his fortune to charitable causes. So to say he doesn't do a thing that doesn't scream self interest is a touch nippy!
As with all things you could argue that he's doing it to look good, or have his name in lights in the pages of history but that's getting into the rather pointless "there's no such thing as a selfless act" argument.Many people have issues with Valve too, so it's not like they're some kind of white knight to fartbook's evil demon... they're just another kind of demon.
As long as you see people paying the crazy prices on Ebay for USED DK2's you will not see a drop in the price.
And I would hazard a guess that the selling prices on Ebay and Amazon for DK2 units had some influence on the "asking" price for the CV1.
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While aware of Me Biscuit's existence I don't think I've every listened to any of his stuff. This however was very well reasoned. Thanks for posting.
If I can get $600 for my used DK2, then that at least will pay for the Rift, but something tells me I would need to find a fool who doesn't know about the Rift being in pre-order to pull that off.
The good thing is you can probably get 4 bills for it and you have had the pleasure of using it for over a year now so all that fun for free right? I am going to sell mine then step away while this thing works itself out.
Unlike others I will wait till May to see what happens because by then you might wait an extra week to get it. Signing up with them right now just seems silly and has no meaning in fact does nothing to light a fire under their bum to get some support for the games that matter. Eve Valkryie has not even updated its 2 year old trailer so the game is probably as lame as the trailer and the cute little fox game well, no not for me so really nothing appeals to me here in this offer and my PC is more than ready for this to happen. A real shame the way things have progressed.
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