All the NPCs need to be packing shield cells if they stay. I doubt you will enjoy the PvE combats much after that.
Scrap or redesign shield cell modules, they are too overpowered and trivialize PvP.
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All the NPCs need to be packing shield cells if they stay. I doubt you will enjoy the PvE combats much after that.
aowqyaaw
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No, it wasn't, I was responding to Targos and gogogreaver. You're clearly just picking a fight and not contributing to the discussion. It was my own fault for stooping to a level where it would incite someone prone to finding an excuse to provoke (with added violent imagery no-less).
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I'm not the poster you were addressing, but my answer is simple. "What's negative about that?" Playing under the rules is playing under the rules. If that includes making strategic decisions to either equip shield cells or to modify your loadout to handle them, where's the problem in that?
Of course, if they make NPC's use them, I doubt Frontier would have the Anaconda's and other ships spam them as much as players do, unfortunately.
I'd like to see peoples reactions when npc anacondas, loaded out with 50 shield cells, are the norm.
Even worse, to introduce quick-time-events, the most hated mechanic in console gaming >.<
The problem is that, as has been discussed in this and the previous threads, using it kind of makes combat suck. Now that's a bit subjective, but there was some videos, and some discussion, and I think it's hard to disagree with the fact that SCB's atleast in some circumstances muddle combat down into a horrible mess.
if that npc has a big fat bounty attached to being setup like that ill bring the rails.
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other then i said they have 0 effect on a good fit i shoot you theirs no shield left to recharge.
If an NPC anaconda was using shield cells intelligently, you would run out of railgun ammo before you penetrated his shields. In my experience of using quad rails on them while hunting condas, they can take several vollies before dropping shields.
quad i have 6. yea bring friends the bounty would need to be flipping huge and once we have wings that would be a good changeling fight. if anything you are giving good ideas lol.
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Thank you for the clarification. I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm not picking a fight, I just don't see what's the big deal here. There are means within the game to deal with opponents with SCBs, there are tactical reasons to equip them or not. Why should the game be changed because some folks have a problem getting their heads around that? If it was otherwise and it was you that understood and used the existing mechanic but others didn't would you want it changed? Or would you tell the noobs to go learn how to play?
There are a LOT of game mechanics in ED that divide the player-base's opinion as to whether they are a good thing or not. They have one thing in common. Those that CAN deal with it don't mind it. Those that CANT gripe.
To repeat my statement from another thread "it's like objecting to losing a chess match because the fact that knights can jump other pieces is 'bad gameplay'" Rather than gripe, why don't you play this game according to its rules and see how you do?
Two additional size 1s is hardly significant when we're talking about big ships like pythons and anacondas. What a joke.
So, if they significantly reduce the quality (is that the right word?) of ''low-level'' combat, and are useless in ''high-level'' combat (where everything apparently is destroyed immediatly), you would not agree that there is a problem?
rails wont take out a anaconda or python in 1 shot at least not in the asp maybe the python being it has large and medium hard points.
aowqyaaw
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Er, I do, and as with the title of the thread, I find shield cells trivialise combat.
You do understand what these forums are for right? You do appreciate it's our prerogative to debate something we find fault with? I understand why you're honing in on me. I've been (admittedly, overly) vocal on this issue, but take a step back and scan through these pages you'll see that i'm not alone.
You're trying to shut me down by telling me to "deal with it"?
Welcome to the internet.
Well thank the sky-gods for that, but you're not really answering my question now...
It would take a lot more than 1 shot with an ASP, especially if the anaconda has pips in shields. The conda could literally just put pips in shields and use shield potions until you ran out of railgun ammo. It can fit much, much more than 30 scbs. You can't carry more than 30 shots of railgun.
LOL... NO. If I wanted to "shut you down" all you'd hear from me is *plonk* because I've been on the internet since before it had that name and know how to use an ignore list or a killfile. I do respect your opinion, I'm just curious why you hold it. Currently mine differs from yours but I'm open to persuasion. My own experience is that shield cells do not trivialize combat, they are simply another dynamic to take into account. I've seen nothing in the videos posted or the anecdotes in thread comments to change my opinion. If you've got something better then I would welcome you showing it, and would view it with an open mind. So far, though, I've not seen anything that rises to that level.
darshu
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Funny story the queen used to be the weakest piece in chess but was changed after a queen (I forget which one) took notice and didn't like idea of people viewing a queen in that way and was then made to be the strongest piece in the game. My point being that I'm sure people took issue with it but it wasn't nerfd. people adapted and it became the game we love today.
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aowqyaaw
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Then you're not looking hard enough.
Oh great sage, I will take you up on your suggestion. *plonk*