Dayz's Devs are not working on three project as far as i know...
[Serious] Where Horizons Failed (and almost every update in Elite)
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Dayz's Devs are not working on three project as far as i know...
Dayz Development is the worse thing i ever saw... Arma 3 that is WAY more complex is miles and miles ahead of the Dayz team...I bet Elite has at least 3x more people working on a game than Daisy
P )Yes if the devs expand Content on Non Core mechanics , Lets say SRV update ,you have 3 new SRV ( DLC only ), 5 new SRV paint pack(dlc only, exclusive), 20 new SRVs missions(free), new SRV mechanic(free), SRV outfiting(free)....
would you complain?!
Your argument is tenuous at best. A Horizons player who hasn't engineered their ship also has a disadvantage against an engineered ship (yet they paid the same). A none-engineered ship is still capable of escaping an engineered ship. There is no "pay to win" here, primarily because you aren't winning anything...
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If you don't like FPS games, that's fine, but if you think that ARMA is in any way akin to CoD or BF then you don't know what you're talking about. ARMA is to CoD what Evechron is to ED.
Seriously? [uhh][rolleyes]
You're directly comparing player abilities either side of an expansion? So the Legion expansion in WoW is just Pay to Win because players could meet in a PvP world?
What part of "Pay to Win" don't you understand? Try Googling it before you try and apply it to Elite again.
He's right though. To a non horizons player, an engineered ship has a significant advantage that you can only mitigate by getting out your debit card. Hence, you pay, you win.
No, he's not. Please explain what is being won? Different ships have different characteristics anyway, engineers just give more characteristics.
Victory is being won, obviously. You're not seeing the rebuy screen, your underpowered opponent is. You've not just lost the rebuy cost of your ship, your opponent has. If your opponent has lost, then you have won, have you not?
I understand your point, but don't entirely agree. It's more subtle than that.
I have access to engineers, so it's more like pay-to-grind than pay-to-win. I've only engineered my engine. It's not worth it to me, to engineer weapons, since I'm not engaging in PvP. Ideally, players with engineered ships would not be placed in the same instance as someone with "vanilla" modules. That would be more fair (even for Horizon players).
According to Urban Dictionary, "pay-to-win: Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying."
Horizons doesn't quite meet that definition, imo. For example, you can avoid all that by playing in Mobius or Solo, like I do (even though I have Horizons).
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i wonder how many posts like these before a developer start thinking "whats the point"? the OPs think they're doing a big favor to the community by being critical critical critical. What they are achieving is a slow persuasive attrition. the men who killed the golden egg laying goose thinking they'll get all the golden eggs in one go. what they end up is a dead goose. nothing else.
Looks like a soldier-shooter to me.
Still looks like a solder-shooter.
So does this.
And this.
And this - and it's not even out yet.
Same thing here.
And it's not that I don't like FPS games.. I've played SO MANY FPS games I've surpassed burned-out by boosted light years.
And I really can't fathom anything that could possibly be done with an FPS game that hasn't already been done a thousand times already.
Sure, the graphics keep getting better, and the details keep expanding, but in the end, it's still the same old thing. And that's just fine if that's what you enjoy - and clearly plenty of people do, or they wouldn't make so many of these types of games. I just keep passing on them. Maybe some day something will come out that gives me that "I have to play this" feeling again.
Of course, every shooter in the world is exactly the same.
Also Elite Dangerous is exactly the same as DCS. EXACTLY.
In cockpit - check
can fly - check
has fuel - check
can shoot - check
yeah pretty much the same.
You too should stop LOL...
And indigo one thing that make ArmA way better than any other FPS, Moding community
Hell I have about to 20Gb or ArmA and 100Gb of Mods on my computer. Think about a Weapon... arma has...Think about a Plane... Arma has.. It's just amazing community ArmA series have...
Love Horizons, ALL OF IT.
Love the game, play it daily.
I rotate all aspects of the game, keeps it interesting.
(...)
Its a game, relax, enjoy it. I do somehow.
Be careful. That seems dangerously close to positivity and (whisper it) perspective. You clearly don't understand the forum rules.
Arma 3 is one of the most broken games out there! The only people I know who play it use heavily modified versions.
You don't think 6x stronger shields is a significant advantage?
Haven't done the math but you can probably achieve some similar increase to armour.
And not to mention the probable 5x (?) increase in DPS an engineered ship can achieve.
Faster top speed.
Better agility.
Debuffs.
Regular ship VS engineered ship with 6x stronger shield, 6x(?) stronger armour, 5x(?) dps, that has higher top speed, better agility and uses debuffs.
The more I think about it, the more lopsided the fight sounds.
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Engineers are 100% pay to win. Ships without Engineer mods cannot compete with those ships that have them.
Love Horizons, ALL OF IT.
Love the game, play it daily.
I rotate all aspects of the game, keeps it interesting.
If you only explore looking for new earthlike worlds and scan systems, you may get bored
if you only mine roids ...you may get bored
if you only do combat... you may get bored
If you only do engineering... you may get bored
if you only work the back ground simulation... you may get bored
if you only ship cargo... you may get bored
if you only used the docking computer and never learn to fly it in all ways... you may get bored
if you only play solo... you may get bored
if you only fly the same ship... you may get bored
if you only play one mission type... you may get bored
if you only drive the SRV and collect rocks... you may get bored
If you only do power play.. you may get bored
if you only search Unidentified signal sources ... you may get bored
If you use the same weapons and never try others.. you may get bored
If you only play it safe... you may get bored
If you can't use your imagination and never role play.. you may get bored
If you read the forums too much.. You may get bored
If you never add new music while playing.. You may get bored
If you are hoping this game will fill some kind of void in your life... you may get bored, depressed, angry, despondent, NO GAME HELPS HERE.
This is just a partial list.
Rotate every couple of days and the game holds you easily.
Its a game, relax, enjoy it. I do somehow.
You make a good point. Ive done this myself and it works.
At some point though and the timing for this is different for everyone, one of those rotation times triggers an awakening, and the ability to see things
outside the fog.
When I did, what I saw was what I liked about the game and why ive spent weeeeeeeeeeks of gameplay here and with the same magnitude of clarity I also saw what no longer
works for me-and to the extent ive stepped out of the game with zero rage, and directing that same attention I had for ED elsewhere.
What was that I saw? The loading screens!
-FSD charging time
-Time to enter not so supercruise
-Supercruise crawl time
-Final approach and dropping into ones target area
Additionally if I want to experience supercruise/ long range travel as I do fishing in ESO (which offers a relaxed atmosphere with of course the occasional combat interruption, wonderful emersion with graphics & audio in such a way I feel I'm right there ocean/riverside ---then I would engage supercruise here and engage blackness sprinkled with luminary bodies---on a productive journey to some long distance target..( IF and ONLY IF FD allowed for this without hideous interruptive jumps) and even then, probably only once a year.
Besides the above time element--basically going offline in awareness and into a moderate coma there are too many disjointed mechanics that prevent one from really getting into the game. Goods from pirates remaining illegal---nonsense and ive mentioned it before--trivial kinda, but still... They do not code in lively game responses to your actions with delivering goods wherein you get what you have done as all those aspects are hidden. All you hear is some distant subtle-clink ---BIG bloody deal. They have coded this game completely in accord with their communications philosophy with players---One way communication cycles. They dismiss you as does the game itself.
When you finally awaken out of the ED coma---hopefully you will step past the negativity of active dismissing of them into a healthy 2 way communication with another game or games.
In recap----Brutal time sinks. This game was meant for those in prison!
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Why not get all of the major assets in place (legs, atmo planets, ELP, etc.) before asking for single career bumps?
That's my opinion.