Good to know I'm not the only player wondering about this very question.
Seriously, what's the point in open play?
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A fault in it self. Elite alienates its own player base.
Gankers are not at fault.
This conversation has, almost verbatim, been had thousands and thousands of times. At this point, it is basically a meme, Hotel California and all. It's been a legitimate question, a cheap troll, a visceral argument, a series of jokes... it's so old that it predates every iteration of ED subsequent to the first one.
Out of game rules?
Your very own private group.
Every one here is. There.
Playing the same game.
Playing the same rules. No?
Regards
I love open play especially in the CGs when the gankers turn up
Because then the nightmare appears........ my anti-ganker ship
And I hunt them down... interdict them, force them out of supercruise and then their 3 team mates turn up (usually because they're too scared to beat up a T9 by themselves), and lo the magic message appears in chat ....
"A ZARKING SIDEY!!!!!!!!!!"
at which point I make my escape at 722 m/sec ....
Bill
<<very good at running away
Because then the nightmare appears........ my anti-ganker ship
And I hunt them down... interdict them, force them out of supercruise and then their 3 team mates turn up (usually because they're too scared to beat up a T9 by themselves), and lo the magic message appears in chat ....
"A ZARKING SIDEY!!!!!!!!!!"
at which point I make my escape at 722 m/sec ....
Bill
<<very good at running away
Robert Maynard
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Indeed - created by those who would like players to affect particular game features when playing in Open only.
We do - but some players don't like the rules of the game, preferring to promote their alternatives instead.
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He seemed to be asking for clarification of what "powerplay PvP" was and how the group in question were participating in it. My answer was roughly to indicate "in the normal way". Being attacked in BGS for powerplay reasons is normal. A little less likely than in a powerplay expansion, due to the spread out nature of BGS work a lot of the time. The group in question were attacking me in a BGS context, so it does happen though (particularly due to a vague truce around expansions at the moment related to the Thargoid invasion).
One major argument for Open Only would be that 5th column would be forced to come into the light (not that it would help much I guess, and we get along anyway). Otherwise, at a certain point, you've seen it all and feel up for it, got enough money to laugh at rebuys and if you want to play with your squad, they're in Open too, so what. Elite is twice the fun in a squad for most, including me (TBAG). It's not better or worse than any mode, I had great times in Mobius or Solo. And ofc there are certain no-go areas like Deciat, Jameson, Maia and CG systems you better visit in some other mode (I did the current CG in Open because I did not fear anyone in that Cutter and could easily pay a 50m rebuy + 110m profit loss). Open can be dangerous, but 99% of times it's definitely not, we went to the end of the galaxy in Open and safely returned, Colonia and Helgoland included. It's an individual choice whether it fits you or not, and that's just great. At least we got that choice, and the modes are brilliant. Each and every mode is a valid playstyle and nothing to be frowned upon. And to complete heresy, I have Dockers on about every ship except the dedicated AX and PvP ones (I don't do PvP, being a good & law-abiding citizen, but I possibly could, what else to do with all the mats).
So, tldr; Open is optional, and that's good. I like it anyway and can't recall my last rebuy actually. The most important skill in PvP is knowing how to safely escape, and that I was taught by a CODE member. YMMV.
O7,
So, tldr; Open is optional, and that's good. I like it anyway and can't recall my last rebuy actually. The most important skill in PvP is knowing how to safely escape, and that I was taught by a CODE member. YMMV.
O7,
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I have met heaps of people, both exploring and mucking about with the BGS. It's a rare occurrence in the Black, but it happens and I cherish those moments.
S
Given that just about every mission can influence the BGS, it would put a target on everyone running missions to a station if they were not beneficial to the controlling faction. And even then, others may take a hand. Effectively severely affecting inter system commerce (unless the system controller allowed it).
Steve
I think it's easy to overestimate the amount of resources you can actually put into controlling traffic that way, and you can never be sure whether that open square works against you or not
O7,
BUT, we DO have a good time when we play together...some might say...
Which, I suppose, is how one ends up in a "jail" in the first place...
you don't have to if you don't want to.
Me too! It's great. Boosting above 800 and not even bothering to wake because you're off the grid is the way.
At this point, I've become convinced that this thread is just another troll, and I've come to this conclusion because the OP has not actually responded to a single thoughtful piece of advice provided by anyone here who bothered.
This is not at all a conclusion you should have drawn at this point. Open is exactly what it says on the tin: open. In Open, neither actions nor interactions are in any way restricted in a practical sense. It's a place where you can encounter anyone and anything. "Open Only", "PvE Open", "PvPvE Closed Open", whatever... these things are never happening, so they aren't really worth waxing philosophical about.
Fly in Open with pixels you can afford to lose and the attitude that "Yes, I may in fact die, but that's part of the experience and the challenge", and Open will be a lot of fun. You'll meet people. You'll make friends and enemies. You'll die in fires. So on. And you always have the option to use Solo or a PG when the risk is too great. That's the long and the short of it, but despite that, nobody will just accept it and we'll be on page 20 before you know it.
Well, you see...everyone, including NPCs, has different goals (
just like reality, well no NPCs in reality, or are there...) and that's, ultimately, why our spaceships have slots for weapons & defenses...and why the three different game modes were created.- Status