I don't get why Frontier are so vehement about this. It's a superb way to make sure players get frustrated. You do everything that you're supposed to do but in the end RNG is not in your favor and I'm sure a lot of people then think "great, another 20m wasted".
Settlement Defence Plans
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Ehh, some settlements are better than others. Maybe they want us to find them instead of just doing the same one over and over?
There are settlements with RNG-less loot? No? Thought as much.
Better, there are settlements that favor suit schematics.There are settlements with RNG-less loot? No? Thought as much.
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All that trash data, which I agree is ridiculous in volume, would go a long way at a Data trade.
I'm at the point that I think it is a feature already installed but it wasn't flipped on and at this point Fdev is doubling down on it.
I’m genuinely confused as to the point of “most things” in Odyssey. The ONLY stuff you can trade is Assets, so what is the point of the 95% of Goods and Data that isn’t useful for anything and can’t be traded … just to take up space? I mean, it can’t be to sell for credits ‘cause only an absolute moron would try and make money that way given the literally dozens of better options …
At one level they probably serve the same purpose as stars you cannot travel to, planets you cannot land on, and the various walls, doors, lockers, crates, etc. that you cannot interact with. It adds some amount of realism and completeness to the game. If they didn't exist people would complain about the lack.
It probably also serves a purpose for future features. It is far easier to change the name of an existing item than it is to add in a new item. Rename an item; change its RNG frequency; put it in a mission and you have super rare weapon codes, secret recordings or whatever data a mission needs.
However, I too am completely frustrated by the SDPs. There seems no way to determine where to find them. I've found exactly one since EDO was released. It was a grind to find everything else but it was possible and there was a bit of sense to where to find it all. SDPs? Pffft!
It probably also serves a purpose for future features. It is far easier to change the name of an existing item than it is to add in a new item. Rename an item; change its RNG frequency; put it in a mission and you have super rare weapon codes, secret recordings or whatever data a mission needs.
However, I too am completely frustrated by the SDPs. There seems no way to determine where to find them. I've found exactly one since EDO was released. It was a grind to find everything else but it was possible and there was a bit of sense to where to find it all. SDPs? Pffft!
That's less of an issue with those goods being useless and more of the rest of the game being horribly broken though.I’m genuinely confused as to the point of “most things” in Odyssey. The ONLY stuff you can trade is Assets, so what is the point of the 95% of Goods and Data that isn’t useful for anything and can’t be traded … just to take up space? I mean, it can’t be to sell for credits ‘cause only an absolute moron would try and make money that way given the literally dozens of better options …
Would love to see the tidal wave of tears if they "fixed" that
I took a covert mission to grab the settlement defense plans. Failed the mission because I got spotted at the data port and the alarms were triggered but I did manage to download the plans and get out of there. Unfortunately, the defense turrets were still enabled and my ship was destroyed before I got the landing gear raised.
Now at the prison colony, insurance bought me an identical ship and I look in the storage... Settlement defense plans! Joy!
Now at the prison colony, insurance bought me an identical ship and I look in the storage... Settlement defense plans! Joy!
Congratulations! Now repeat 14x.
You seriously parked your ship in the gun range of the installation you were boosting? ED's version of COPS must be full of hilarious videos.
@George Fifthman already replied and I basically agree with him.I’m genuinely confused as to the point of “most things” in Odyssey. The ONLY stuff you can trade is Assets, so what is the point of the 95% of Goods and Data that isn’t useful for anything and can’t be traded … just to take up space? I mean, it can’t be to sell for credits ‘cause only an absolute moron would try and make money that way given the literally dozens of better options …
I assume they are there for "world building" and I appreciate that in principle. The problem is that they are part of the same drop table as data with actual gameplay value.
It would be great if each container had to separate RNG rolls, one for usefull stuff and an additional one for fluff. In that case I wouldn't mind downloading them for the peanuts they offer.
Apex the ship that can get shot out of the sky at no additional cost!
True … if FDEV added Bartender trading for Goods and Data then I’d be perfectly happy to get a few useful things via scavenging and trade for others.That's less of an issue with those goods being useless and more of the rest of the game being horribly broken though.
Sure, it would take several missions to get enough low-level stuff to trade up (I’m looking at you, Weapon Components …) but that’d be okay - at least there would be a way to get it done if the RNG doesn’t favour you.
I think I’d even be okay if Weapon and Suit Schematics continued to be excluded from the trading (not sure what they qualify as - Goods?) so there would still be one thing for any upgrade that you HAVE to collect but at least you could trade for everything else. Though, frankly, I think the numbers are way off and no upgrade should require more than say 5 schematics at most.
You can get 5 suit schematics in one mission now. And those are team missions so 4 people could get 5 suit schematics in one mission. That'd be too easy.
Edit: I clearly misinterpreted this; statement retracted!
Settlement Defence Plans
Hey folks - definitely aware of low spawn rates on some mats - for Settlement Defence Plans you should really be looking in Dataports in Security rooms. The settlement difficulty and economy do make a difference to spawn rate but the other things (size / government) don't. Yes, it did, as I...
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Some lockers only contain fluff and nothing useful. Learn which are worth looting and which never to waste time on.
No sane coder would put that line in a program.I thought Zac may have actually stated that the spawn rate goes up when you don't need them (but it may just be as mission rewards) which is..frustrating...
Settlement Defence Plans
Hey folks - definitely aware of low spawn rates on some mats - for Settlement Defence Plans you should really be looking in Dataports in Security rooms. The settlement difficulty and economy do make a difference to spawn rate but the other things (size / government) don't. Yes, it did, as I...forums.frontier.co.uk
Having read the linked post all Zac said was that SDP are useless after the unlock, which I have also said. It's a wonder we aren't nuked back into the stone age with misinformation spreading so easily today.