Sex, Gender, and (Imperial) Titles

[bossbrigand]

In the future, English will be re-invented. So, yeah, why not?

Defending the status quo is kind of weird in a science fiction game set 1000 years in the future. Do you think there will be no changes to society? (I'm bummed to see slavery re-introduced, but that's another problem...)

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... a grass roots movement that only attacks feminists. By some coincidence. And which appears utterly unconcerned about, you know, actual ethics in gaming journalism (when it's practiced by men)

Re-introduced? Slavery exists today in the literal sense, and the only legal slavery in Elite (Imperial slavery) is not exactly slavery in the modern definition. It's indentured servitude, which, while questionably ethical, is said to be something people willingly turn to rather than default on debts.

 

[nexxo]

When ANYONE, be they feminists or not, be they SJWs or not, spread lies, falsehoods & misinformation, when feminists & SJWs force their way onto others is when they get responded to. Doesn't care about ethics in journalism? Wrong. GG does in fact care very much about ethics in gaming journalism, hence the push for gaming press sites to update their ethics policies(which has happened due to GG), hence the push for game journalists to announce any & all possible conflicts of interest.

Please. GG is a bar brawl: a free-for-all punch-up. No sensible person gets caught up in that one.

 

[Jackie Silver]

This thread is a fantastic lightning rod for my Ignore list.

 

[Cody]

<chortles merrily>

 

[nexxo]

Or more appropriately, women can't cut it and just because they squat when they pee doesn't mean you go changing several centuries of tradition.

Why can't traditions change? They do so constantly. Also not sure how being able to pee standing up conveys dominance in any way except in a ing-up-the-wall contest. Go us, men!

 

[Princess Riikka]

I think i'll wait with worrying about gender, until the day i actually see a human being in this game.

Maybe you should try leaving Solo Mode.

Topics guaranteed to generate multi page threads that go on and on and on... Python nerfs, offline mode and anything to do with gender.

There are at least two other threads regarding gender and in-game language. Good luck finding them ;P They didn't raise nearly as much of a fuss. That's why I thought no one really cared and didn't expect this thread to blow up like it has. That's why I felt I needed to chip in myself, to have some voice heard on this matter that isn't yet lost in the depths of the forum.

Let's nip this in the bud before this thread becomes THAT thread.

I'm not entirely sure what this is referring to but seeing where things are going at this point I agree, it should be locked unless someone from FD wants to chip in. It's just the same few arguments made by people who haven't read anything in this thread including the original post and dealt with by a handful of people who have actually read the thread and done so repeatedly (thank you! I'd be raging if not for you being around to give the apparently-needed individual attention to people who refuse to show basic conversational decency). Aside from, you know, people just being rude or off-topic for the sake of it.

Thats my point, "equality of treatment" only needs to be considered when there is division. If a whole has no apparent parts, there is no need for their comparison.

There are apparent parts. This is the issue. It appears that between two currently gendered terms, making up something new, or using something else entirely the choice was made to use a term associated with one gender. Despite some solid efforts to derail it, this thread isn't about equality at all: it's about language. The division between "baron" and "baroness" was already there, somebody just decided to take one side of it rather than, say, make a new one or, as some have used their time machines to discover is the real truth of the matter , clearly appropriate one side's term for gender-agnostic usage. We do see this happening to terms lately, but no one saw this happening to the titles this thread refers to. A bunch of people simply asserting that that's what happened is not acceptable; it must happen for it to have happened.

 

[Ian Phillips]

Closing on the strength of OP's post.