Shadow Quality

Also, setting the filter quality to "2" should only be done to get crisper shadow edges in specific scenarios, as it's prone to causing crashes around starports and creating visual artifacts elsewhere.
I just want to confirm that at the Guardian site in Synuefe NL-N C23-4 - B3 the game crashes to desktop in the very moment you put your feet to the ground, and keeps crashing everytime you relaunch and re-start playing unless you remove these lines:
XML:
  <Shadows_Low>
    <Profile_PlanetSurface>
      <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
    </Profile_PlanetSurface>
  </Shadows_Low>
 
I just want to confirm that at the Guardian site in Synuefe NL-N C23-4 - B3 the game crashes to desktop in the very moment you put your feet to the ground, and keeps crashing everytime you relaunch and re-start playing unless you remove these lines:
XML:
  <Shadows_Low>
    <Profile_PlanetSurface>
      <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
    </Profile_PlanetSurface>
  </Shadows_Low>

All of my profiles since version 14 are using EVSM (filter quality "3") for just such reasons. The other types cause crashes in certain areas.
 
I'm using your shadows settings, and I've seen this while landing:
(look on the top left)

EliteDangerous64 2022-10-24 22-20-32.jpg



EliteDangerous64 2022-10-24 22-20-36.jpg


My understanding from what i've read here is that the game "switches" how shadows are rendered depending on "scenarios", so maybe what i see in the second image is the "near the planet surface" scenario.

I'd just want to ask if the shadows in the first image are expected, and if not ... well, let you know it happens :)
 
I'm using your shadows settings, and I've seen this while landing:
(look on the top left)

View attachment 329269


View attachment 329270

My understanding from what i've read here is that the game "switches" how shadows are rendered depending on "scenarios", so maybe what i see in the second image is the "near the planet surface" scenario.

I'd just want to ask if the shadows in the first image are expected, and if not ... well, let you know it happens :)

Is that before or after requesting docking permission?

The moment you request permission to land, the game switches to another profile. I think it might be station interior, but it could also be one we don't have access to.

I reported this as a bug last year, it's still there:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaS3vuwv-aw
 
Is that before or after requesting docking permission?
I THINK i was already descending in auto-docking. I didn't take note of that, but i tend to look around only when i have nothing else to do.
I remember noticing the bad shadows on the radar, and thought to take a screenshot for you as i had a free moment.
 
Version 17, copies the contents of Profile_PlanetApproach over those of Profile_StationInterior, which appears to address the issue with shadow quality abruptly changing upon being granted docking permission.

I have no idea if this addresses the saw toothed cockpit shadows @Parduz pointed out, but I doubt it. More testing required.

XML:
    <SpotShadows_Low>
        <NumCacheShadows>3</NumCacheShadows>
        <NumSpotShadows>8</NumSpotShadows>
        <CacheShadowAtlasSize>16384</CacheShadowAtlasSize>
        <CacheShadowSize>2048</CacheShadowSize>
        <SpotFilterQuality>3</SpotFilterQuality>
        <EVSMSpotFullRes>true</EVSMSpotFullRes>
    </SpotShadows_Low>
    
    <Shadows_Low>
        <Profile_General>
            <SliceSize>16384</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>0.999999</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0004</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>12800.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_General>
        <Profile_PlanetApproach>
            <SliceSize>16384</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>0.999999</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <CrossFadeCascadesDistance>300.0</CrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>1000.0</LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <AltitudeAdaptation>
                <MinElevation>100.0</MinElevation>
                <MaxElevation>350.0</MaxElevation>
                <Scale>3.0</Scale>
                <FirstCascadeScalingAmount>2.0</FirstCascadeScalingAmount>
            </AltitudeAdaptation>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>10.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>7.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>1050.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>2125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>4250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>false</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_PlanetApproach>
        <Profile_PlanetSurface>
            <SliceSize>16384</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>0.999999</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <CrossFadeCascadesDistance>300.0</CrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>900.0</LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000025</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>5.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>10.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>7.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>40.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>80.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0004</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>160.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>450.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>1500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>6000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>false</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_PlanetSurface>
        <Profile_StationInterior>
            <SliceSize>16384</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>0.999999</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <CrossFadeCascadesDistance>300.0</CrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>1000.0</LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <AltitudeAdaptation>
                <MinElevation>100.0</MinElevation>
                <MaxElevation>350.0</MaxElevation>
                <Scale>3.0</Scale>
                <FirstCascadeScalingAmount>2.0</FirstCascadeScalingAmount>
            </AltitudeAdaptation>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>10.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>7.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>1050.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>2125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>4250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>false</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_StationInterior>
        <Profile_AsteroidField>
            <SliceSize>16384</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>0.999999</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>1</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>10000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <AsteroidShadowsEnabled>1</AsteroidShadowsEnabled>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>false</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_AsteroidField>
    </Shadows_Low>
 

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Thanks so much for this tweak, @Morbad! All the shadows in the game look so much better now.

However, I do see a small quirk with your new version 17 when inside a concourse. When I walk through the central area of the concourse, shadows pop in and out: I step out of the elevator, and all the shadows of the concourse structures are there on the floor. I take a few steps, boom, they're gone. Another few steps, and they appear again.

The shadows do not vanish with the default GraphicsConfiguration.xml, I've already tested that. However, I haven't tested your previous versions inside stations yet. (I just arrived at an Asteroid Base 5000 ly from Sol and haven't docked since quite a bit.)

Thanks again for this great modification!
 

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Thanks so much for this tweak, @Morbad! All the shadows in the game look so much better now.

However, I do see a small quirk with your new version 17 when inside a concourse. When I walk through the central area of the concourse, shadows pop in and out: I step out of the elevator, and all the shadows of the concourse structures are there on the floor. I take a few steps, boom, they're gone. Another few steps, and they appear again.

The shadows do not vanish with the default GraphicsConfiguration.xml, I've already tested that. However, I haven't tested your previous versions inside stations yet. (I just arrived at an Asteroid Base 5000 ly from Sol and haven't docked since quite a bit.)

Thanks again for this great modification!

I didn't notice this effect in my cursory testing, but I'll take a closer look.

If this is more obtrusive than what v17 fixes (loss of exterior shadow quality from being granted docking permission), use version 16 for now.
 
Hi @Morbad,

I was wondering if there were any GraphicsConfigurationOverride.xml or fxcfg file settings that pair best with the shadow changes. Do you have a baseline of what you use? I have a 9900K and a 2080Ti running a 120Hz 3440x1440 monitor and it seems like I max out the card in some places. The game is still fine regardless, but I'm wondering if I'm over committing to some settings that don't provide much in terms of visuals, it's mostly just the Ultra profile (aside form the 2 low for shadows). Sorry if this is outside the scope of this thread, I've just been trying to scour all the information out there how best to set some of those settings, but sometimes it seems a little out of date.

Thanks for your work on this too, it really is noticeable.
 
I was wondering if there were any GraphicsConfigurationOverride.xml or fxcfg file settings that pair best with the shadow changes. Do you have a baseline of what you use? I have a 9900K and a 2080Ti running a 120Hz 3440x1440 monitor and it seems like I max out the card in some places. The game is still fine regardless, but I'm wondering if I'm over committing to some settings that don't provide much in terms of visuals, it's mostly just the Ultra profile (aside form the 2 low for shadows). Sorry if this is outside the scope of this thread, I've just been trying to scour all the information out there how best to set some of those settings, but sometimes it seems a little out of date.

3440*1440 ultra will definitely max out a 2080 Ti in a lot of Odyssey surface content.

Most of my override settings are for increasing visual quality, at a modest cost to performance. The only entry I have that (very slightly) increases performance is:
Code:
    <Volumetrics>
        <Ultra>
            <DownscalingFactor>1.5</DownscalingFactor>
            <BlurSamples>3</BlurSamples>
        </Ultra>
    </Volumetrics>

Which gives me something between high and ultra volumetric lighting quality that I cannot visually distinguish from ultra.
 
3440*1440 ultra will definitely max out a 2080 Ti in a lot of Odyssey surface content.

Most of my override settings are for increasing visual quality, at a modest cost to performance. The only entry I have that (very slightly) increases performance is:
Code:
    <Volumetrics>
        <Ultra>
            <DownscalingFactor>1.5</DownscalingFactor>
            <BlurSamples>3</BlurSamples>
        </Ultra>
    </Volumetrics>

Which gives me something between high and ultra volumetric lighting quality that I cannot visually distinguish from ultra.
Thanks for the response, I'll add that in and maybe tone down some of the settings until I upgrade the card.
 
I've tested the phenomena Lhornda mentioned last month more thoroughly and while it is a bit more pronounced with the changes I made in v17, it's present even with the unmodified shadow tables. Since I find the transition from planet approach to station interior shadows more jarring, and cannot eliminate the concourse shadow issue, I will probably leave the v17 shadows more or less as they are.

With regard to U14, there are no changes that impact the shadow tables themselves, but there is a change to the volumetrics settings, so in the interest of compatability I've integrated those minor changes into the file attached below. Again, the shadows are the same as v17, v18 just updates the file for U14.
 

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I've tested the phenomena Lhornda mentioned last month more thoroughly and while it is a bit more pronounced with the changes I made in v17, it's present even with the unmodified shadow tables. Since I find the transition from planet approach to station interior shadows more jarring, and cannot eliminate the concourse shadow issue, I will probably leave the v17 shadows more or less as they are.

With regard to U14, there are no changes that impact the shadow tables themselves, but there is a change to the volumetrics settings, so in the interest of compatability I've integrated those minor changes into the file attached below. Again, the shadows are the same as v17, v18 just updates the file for U14.
hmm... what hardware do u have? My 3070ti have some drops to 40-50 fps with high graphic preset in the settlements on-foot. Should I use your shadows upgrade? Or u're playing at low fps?
 
hmm... what hardware do u have? My 3070ti have some drops to 40-50 fps with high graphic preset in the settlements on-foot. Should I use your shadows upgrade? Or u're playing at low fps?

I play most often on an RX 6800 XT or RTX 3080 and these shadows are oriented toward higher-end hardware.

Depending on system, these shadow tables are barely slower (vs. ultra) in space and away from settlements, cost about 5-10% of frame rate in settlements and rings, and v17-18 specifically are significantly slower in station concourses.

You can always try them to see if the trade offs are worth while. Applying them is as easy as downloading and renaming a file, plus setting "low" shadow quality in game. Removing them is as easy as having the launcher validate the game files (it will flag the modded .xml and replace it).
 
I play most often on an RX 6800 XT or RTX 3080 and these shadows are oriented toward higher-end hardware.

Depending on system, these shadow tables are barely slower (vs. ultra) in space and away from settlements, cost about 5-10% of frame rate in settlements and rings, and v17-18 specifically are significantly slower in station concourses.

You can always try them to see if the trade offs are worth while. Applying them is as easy as downloading and renaming a file, plus setting "low" shadow quality in game. Removing them is as easy as having the launcher validate the game files (it will flag the modded .xml and replace it).
sorry, english is not my thing. Low shadow quality in-game settings will not overwrite your file? I wanted to read this topic but it is too difficult. And may be u can advice what settings can boost fps in a settlements without severe reduction of visuals?
 
Low shadow quality in-game settings will not overwrite your file?

My file replaces the low preset. You have to set shadow quality to low to see my changes.

And may be u can advice what settings can boost fps in a settlements without severe reduction of visuals?

Even assuming you're GPU limited, there isn't a lot you can do other than reduce resolution, but jacking up shadow quality won't help.
 
Discovered that the CacheShadowSize I've been using in my spot shadow settings is excessive. It increases average frame rate a bit, but at the cost of jitter and lows. This may also have been responsible for the perception of the low spot shadow setting having higher performance than ultra in and of itself; I may have misattributed the gains I was seeing when I increased the cache size to a shader issue.

Will probably release a new version soon with a few adjustments, moving my spot shadow settings along with some HBAO tweaks, back to the override file, leaving only directional shadows in the main .xml.
 
3440*1440 ultra will definitely max out a 2080 Ti in a lot of Odyssey surface content.
Even more on my setup of 5760x1080 triple surround display with a 1080Ti (unfortunately I am stuck 3 gens behind).
However even on surface (but not on planetary bases/settlements) I rarely go below 40f/s which is fine with me (on MSFS for example @ ultra settings I reach ~20f/s).
My problem is not the low fps but the occasional*(*more frequent on atmospheric worlds with life) pauses/lags/stutters during descent from SC immediately after exiting glide. Its better to have ~30 fps but no stutters/lags/pauses rather then ~60 fps with frequent pauses. I am currently reverted to default graphicsconfiguration.xml eagerly awaiting for your next release and looking forward to your override as well. Million thanks for your efforts.
 
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