So about the cancelled dev stream.

On the contrary, i think FD have been listening, and look where it got us: Odyssey, an incoherent, babbling mess.
Ok, if you find the people who asked for buggy terrain generation and poor performance, I'm going to have a serious talk with them.

Honestly, this mess is Fdev. Don't blame the community for that one. Especially when you can pay professional to handle community interaction (they are called CM).

I don't say "let's bash Fdev, here's my pitchfork", but I wouldn't blame the community. I just hope they'll fix it.
 
Ok, if you find the people who asked for buggy terrain generation and poor performance, I'm going to have a serious talk with them.

Honestly, this mess is Fdev. Don't blame the community for that one. Especially when you can pay professional to handle community interaction (they are called CM).

I don't say "let's bash Fdev, here's my pitchfork", but I wouldn't blame the community. I just hope they'll fix it.
The one thing which has bewildered me is this: Before Odyssey, Horizons was still in absolutely dire need of work across so many areas. But instead, people demanded fleet carriers, space legs, all this extra "stuff" that, ultimately, didn't fix any of the core gameplay loops.

When the core game was already bug-ridden and carrying major features which are simply broken outright, what did people really expect beyond more of the same from a DLC? But being one of the ones who didn't want Odyssey, and wanted those issues fixed, I distinctly remember being browbeat on the forums that Odyssey would fix everything.

Well, here we are, and we got exactly what was asked for. You can't expand on rubble.

Yeah, all that clamoring for an FPS and dull taxi sessions. I remember it all so clearly. :sneaky:

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Yeah, I actually do remember it. They're also the same people demanding walking in ships, which will be equally dull. I have no idea why people thought flying around in a taxi or FPS would be a good idea, but here we are.
 
I was?



Someone ought to inform [REDACTED] about this. Full ship interiors has generated hundreds of millions of dollars, all those players haven't even realized they're paying for a dull experience. This isn't right!
See, you're confusing "popular" with "good" there. The two are actually distinct and not mutually exclusive.
 
See, you're confusing "popular" with "good" there. The two are actually distinct and not mutually exclusive.

I take it you're in the camp that states EDO's 69% negative review rate has no correlation to the quality of the game?

We can agree to disagree, all good.

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When the core game was already bug-ridden and carrying major features which are simply broken outright, what did people really expect beyond more of the same from a DLC? But being one of the ones who didn't want Odyssey, and wanted those issues fixed, I distinctly remember being browbeat on the forums that Odyssey would fix everything.
People were convinced that Odyssey would overhaul the engine and consolidate updates, so fixing a lot of the underlying bugs, and that was why Frontier weren't fixing them with immediacy in the live game. I wasn't sold on that perspective, but some prominent people in the community were of this opinion and encouraging it. Guess it turned out to be grossly inaccurate.
 
Some game company do livestream often for official stuff. I mentioned Warframe earlier.
People dissect everything when they are starved for information. Otherwise, it's surprisingly limited.
Look at the thousands of threads that were launched as a result of one CM’s off-the-cuff comments about the desirability of [redacted]. Given the ability of the community to deranged about practically everything, FDev gives us as little information as possible. I do not blame them.
 
Look at the thousands of threads that were launched as a result of one CM’s off-the-cuff comments about the desirability of [redacted]. Given the ability of the community to deranged about practically everything, FDev gives us as little information as possible. I do not blame them.
Starved community ->news dissection.
It's simple, you don't jump on food when you are well fed.

So they don't give us news because we are going to dissect it. Which mean every news is going to be dissected. And you think it's healthy ?

Meanwhile, game like warframe give news all the time, about every week, one way or another. People don't dissect it.

I've seen both, guess which one I prefer.
 
So I was thinking after re watching today are fdev in the office or are they still working from home?
Well, working can have many different meanings. A lot of managers consider discussing the same guff over and over in back to back meetings as working. Not suggesting for a minute that FDev are doing this or are lazy, just saying people can have different definitions of what work is.
 
Well, working can have many different meanings. A lot of managers consider discussing the same guff over and over in back to back meetings as working. Not suggesting for a minute that FDev are doing this or are lazy, just saying people can have different definitions of what work is.
I live in the states so I was just wondering we are pretty much open here
 
This is the reason it was changed from stream format, to a forum post, as given on Supercruise News.


If it really was all about maintaining the integrity of the message, so it doesn't become diluted. Why not have the stream as planned, and then post a thread along side it with all the info given in the stream? Why not both?
I would have liked both, but I can live with just a forum post.

Hell, I can live with no information at all as its only a game.
 
There is a certain level of irony that this thread, on the forums, is complaining that the primary way that fdev is planning to use to communicate with the 'community' is ... the forums. A few weeks ago I seem to recall the complaints being about information being spread on places other than the 'official forums'. They should have spin it that way, people would have loved it :)

(And ofc the real issue tomorrow is actually gonna be: fdev haven't said what the questions are - so everyone will be complaining they answered the 'wrong' questions ;) )

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Did they clarify ( 😁 ) it will be a Forum post? Could be a Twitter post :ROFLMAO:
 
They were good enough for everything else, just not good enough for the one thing a huge chunk of the playerbase wanted to see, and was make or break for many people.
Make or Break came and went with the Alpha phase 3...
If preserving message integrity is the goal, then I don't see why the format of the message had to be changed, instead of just recording the message in both written and video format.
But I agree, a video summary can't be that hard surely!? If @Obsidian Ant can do it so can .
 
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