Pirates are supposed to blockade an outpost and try to prevent that traders might trade more valuable goods? Oh, that's a new definition of "Pirate" - ok, it's not.
So you want to play in Open, eh?
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Pirates are supposed to blockade an outpost and try to prevent that traders might trade more valuable goods? Oh, that's a new definition of "Pirate" - ok, it's not.
Pirates are supposed to kill players without the slightest interest in their cargo now?
Demand a % of the cargo is pirating. Blasting every and all into space dust isn't piracy.
If that is CODE's objective, then all CODE members that engage in related activities are by their own admission "Griefers" and FD should deal with them directly using the Ghosting facilities at their disposal IMO.
No problems Cody. .. stay within the rules and don't rise to the bait... nowt they can do
That's an INGAME RP response, not actually ranting on the forums or opening tickets. There's a difference.
People who are unhappy with CODE are free to create their own PvP "Clan", wing up and make a stand ingame - rather than try to influence FD on the forums to make everyone play as they wish.
Or just - you know - don't play with them.
@ Nonya, I agree with most of your OP. I love open mode and stay there 99% and really wish I'd had the time to try and run your blockades. 1-2 hours free time every couple of days doesn't gel well with a Hutton CG unfortunately. Maybe next time. 
The only part of your post that lets you down in the pad hogging (which you refer to several times). I thought you guys were bigger than that, and you have genuinely disappointed me.
As I posted in other threads: Blockading the station? Cool. Raiding the docking queue? Cool. Exploiting the dodgy game mechanics to block the pad? That's just cowardly and childish, and I've completely changed my opinion of code since you (the collective you) did it. What you did was just as bad as combat logging or scripting, and as an open play non-pirate it's so disappointing that the 'best' or at least most (in)famous group of pvp pirates have to resort to expoits.
Before my Bootlegger Challenge I had a chat via PMs with one of Code's more famous members to make sure that you all knew that I was organising an open mode smuggling race that would involve some ships going through Leesti/Lave. I did that because I genuinely respect pvp pirates and always have. But by 'cheating' (in a way that can't be punished) you've lost quite a lot of my respect - which is sad, because had you left the pad open it would have created much better gameplay for everyone as your raids arrived and the freighters had to keep trying to dock, or run or fight.
I've still enjoyed 'watching' the CG via the forums. I'd argue that most CMDRs playing in open appear to have made their deliveries successfully, so although your blockade was fun, I'd say it failed. Kind of like the U-Boats in WWII, lots of ships sunk, but ultimately the convoys won.
I do have one question though: Why keep destroying the Huttoncam ship again and again? It wasn't contributing to the CG, so that really was griefing, by any definition.
The only part of your post that lets you down in the pad hogging (which you refer to several times). I thought you guys were bigger than that, and you have genuinely disappointed me.
As I posted in other threads: Blockading the station? Cool. Raiding the docking queue? Cool. Exploiting the dodgy game mechanics to block the pad? That's just cowardly and childish, and I've completely changed my opinion of code since you (the collective you) did it. What you did was just as bad as combat logging or scripting, and as an open play non-pirate it's so disappointing that the 'best' or at least most (in)famous group of pvp pirates have to resort to expoits.
Before my Bootlegger Challenge I had a chat via PMs with one of Code's more famous members to make sure that you all knew that I was organising an open mode smuggling race that would involve some ships going through Leesti/Lave. I did that because I genuinely respect pvp pirates and always have. But by 'cheating' (in a way that can't be punished) you've lost quite a lot of my respect - which is sad, because had you left the pad open it would have created much better gameplay for everyone as your raids arrived and the freighters had to keep trying to dock, or run or fight.
I've still enjoyed 'watching' the CG via the forums. I'd argue that most CMDRs playing in open appear to have made their deliveries successfully, so although your blockade was fun, I'd say it failed. Kind of like the U-Boats in WWII, lots of ships sunk, but ultimately the convoys won.
I do have one question though: Why keep destroying the Huttoncam ship again and again? It wasn't contributing to the CG, so that really was griefing, by any definition.
It is called war, I not see the huge demand to remove Power Play from the game because it basically sets the different powers at war with each other. If I sign up with Arkon and spot a trader who is Edmunson, by the dynamics of Power Play it is my duty to destroy this trader without question.
RP reason. FDev used scrap as the commodity so we can't make a profit, better just blast everyone to send FDev a message and cry when the forum explodes with hate towards us.
Don't worry Andy - Code and many of it's members have proved themselves spectacularly adept at exposing their true colours over the last few days and this is just another one of those.
It's almost as if the phrase about giving someone enough rope was invented for them!
PP is a different kettle of fish. Player killing with PP reasons i think is valid. annoying yes but don't join PP then.
But Code did not cite PP as their casus belli or reason. they cited the fact that FDev dared to limit piracy with the cargo being scrap.
A request to remain civil is protecting a single participant in the thread? You can remain civil and still criticize the statement in the OP. Many have done so without any problem.
with the difference that somebody can choose to pledge to a power. powerplay has nothing to do with what you did.
i didn't see the bgs chnging the system status into anarchy neither, or conflict zones popping up, which would have met the ingame criteria for war.
I'd call it wholesale slaughter.But it's not piracy. Simple
Yeah but when Code get's mentioned things turn south fast.
Whilst I'd agree that PP gives you carte blanche to destroy enemy faction ships it's not war - silly little factions can't declare war in a galaxy ruled by much bigger powers.
It's just politics - handbags at dawn - that sort of thing.
Even Sandro described it as a method for players to play the background sim.
First- Your opinion is invalid OP! <just could not resist!>
Second-Good on you! Nice event over an event...Code always amuses.
Third- to those complaining about PVE in Open...the OP is correct...either get organized, or play in other modes.
Finally- <in regards to the second point> To those playing anti in the galaxy...be very careful what you do. You are given the freedom to make messes...however, there is a fine line to walk. It is not my place to say where that line is. I am glad that my discussions over the last few days were effectively met with resistance from the community. That means that the community still supports the idea that there are 'bad characters allowed'. It's fine that people 'strongly dislike' those playing those characters...and this event served as a solid test for that idea. And it pushed the ideas of what the norm for this type of game play will be.
Second-Good on you! Nice event over an event...Code always amuses.
Third- to those complaining about PVE in Open...the OP is correct...either get organized, or play in other modes.
Finally- <in regards to the second point> To those playing anti in the galaxy...be very careful what you do. You are given the freedom to make messes...however, there is a fine line to walk. It is not my place to say where that line is. I am glad that my discussions over the last few days were effectively met with resistance from the community. That means that the community still supports the idea that there are 'bad characters allowed'. It's fine that people 'strongly dislike' those playing those characters...and this event served as a solid test for that idea. And it pushed the ideas of what the norm for this type of game play will be.
I believe this sums up the situation as eloquently as any single post I've seen, from earlier in the thread:
They were interested in your cargo. Preventing its delivery was their main goal.
Get organised and they run away to a different instance. loosing the organised mob.