Some Reality Facts

Roen Soul

Roen Soul
A one person needs 350 full grown trees in order to get enough oxygen for breathing and food for eating. This is something we have to keep in mind while adding population into space stations. For 10 persons you already need a forest of 3500 trees. That is equivalent of 35 000 sqm of land space under a dome. It is not easy to construct this huge buildings and it has been tested in laboratories.

This is also a fact on planet Earth. This a one planet we currently live on can hold around 10 billion people before the atmosphere becomes quickly toxic by carbon dioxide... We will suffocate one by one very soon if we do not get birth ratio in control. So... Shall we think how to survive? Shall we continue deforestation? I think we don't have room for that since every 350 trees we cut down we literally kill a one person. - Have fun figuring this out.

Elite space which is far in future will not have more population on planet earth than it can maintain. That is around 10 billion people. MAX.

Population growth in low gravity space station becomes a problem and this is what creates so called slaves. Those that have no human rights. They are organic bio-waste which take air and food in over populated stations. Oxygen recycle systems become one system to fight for.

Control over air to breath in these systems is one huge thing. Continuous oxygen production requires factories around galaxy.
 

srfrogg23

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Roen said:
A one person needs 350 full grown trees in order to get enough oxygen for breathing and food for eating. This is something we have to keep in mind while adding population into space stations. For 10 persons you already need a forest of 3500 trees. That is equivalent of 35 000 sqm of land space under a dome. It is not easy to construct this huge buildings and it has been tested in laboratories.

This is also a fact on planet Earth. This a one planet we currently live on can hold around 10 billion people before the atmosphere becomes quickly toxic by carbon dioxide... We will suffocate one by one very soon if we do not get birth ratio in control. So... Shall we think how to survive? Shall we continue deforestation? I think we don't have room for that since every 350 trees we cut down we literally kill a one person. - Have fun figuring this out.

Elite space which is far in future will not have more population on planet earth than it can maintain. That is around 10 billion people. MAX.

Population growth in low gravity space station becomes a problem and this is what creates so called slaves. Those that have no human rights. They are organic bio-waste which take air and food in over populated stations. Oxygen recycle systems become one system to fight for.

Control over air to breath in these systems is one huge thing. Continuous oxygen production requires factories around galaxy.
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Yeah, but what fun is reality? Escaping into science fiction sounds much more entertaining than deforestation.
 

Yaffle

Volunteer Moderator
Yaffle
There are currently six people on the ISS. How many trees?

Don't forget that in the Elite Universe energy is cheap, the energy required for hyperspace is Quite A Lot and there must be some form of fusion reactor driving it. Seeing as a tree is basically a machine that turns CO2, H2O, and a few minerals into wood and O2 (some fix N2 as well) you can make the machine independently, but remove the wood by-product.

Food can be 'recycled' by adding back the bits your body took out, or simply via a combination of growing it or importing it. Additive food printers seem to be in use (food cartridges), and we ship them around.
 

srfrogg23

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Yaffle said:
There are currently six people on the ISS. How many trees?

Don't forget that in the Elite Universe energy is cheap, the energy required for hyperspace is Quite A Lot and there must be some form of fusion reactor driving it. Seeing as a tree is basically a machine that turns CO2, H2O, and a few minerals into wood and O2 (some fix N2 as well) you can make the machine independently, but remove the wood by-product.

Food can be 'recycled' by adding back the bits your body took out, or simply via a combination of growing it or importing it. Additive food printers seem to be in use (food cartridges), and we ship them around.
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Returning nutrients to human waste products and eating it? Sounds like Man vs Wild - EXTREME!

Yum...
 

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Roen said:
This a one planet we currently live on can hold around 10 billion people before the atmosphere becomes quickly toxic by carbon dioxide... We will suffocate one by one very soon if we do not get birth ratio in control.
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OK, despite the fact that I disagree with many of your facts, I'm going to blow right past that and get to the core of what it is I think you're trying to say.

Are you saying that you would like to see some gameplay features developed around the struggle for resources? Water, food, air, etc? New missions, new factories and stations, things like that?

I'm game. I'm all for stuff that gives the game greater depth.
 
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SDSUsnowboards

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Roen said:
A one person needs 350 full grown trees in order to get enough oxygen for breathing and food for eating. This is something we have to keep in mind while adding population into space stations. For 10 persons you already need a forest of 3500 trees. That is equivalent of 35 000 sqm of land space under a dome. It is not easy to construct this huge buildings and it has been tested in laboratories.

This is also a fact on planet Earth. This a one planet we currently live on can hold around 10 billion people before the atmosphere becomes quickly toxic by carbon dioxide... We will suffocate one by one very soon if we do not get birth ratio in control. So... Shall we think how to survive? Shall we continue deforestation? I think we don't have room for that since every 350 trees we cut down we literally kill a one person. - Have fun figuring this out.

Elite space which is far in future will not have more population on planet earth than it can maintain. That is around 10 billion people. MAX.

Population growth in low gravity space station becomes a problem and this is what creates so called slaves. Those that have no human rights. They are organic bio-waste which take air and food in over populated stations. Oxygen recycle systems become one system to fight for.

Control over air to breath in these systems is one huge thing. Continuous oxygen production requires factories around galaxy.
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Ironically, you are the one in need of a reminder of how reality works.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0607_040607_phytoplankton.html

That sounds cheekier than I mean it to sound.

In any case, ED takes place in the future. If you endeavor to criticize a portrayal of the future using modern technological limitations, then you're going to 1. be disappointed, and 2. be wrong.
 

Garbarrage

Garbarrage
This is completely wrong. One person does not need 350 trees for oxygen. A single mature oak will produce more oxygen in a season than 10 people will breath in a whole year.
 

Bounder

Bounder
Oxygen in one of the most abundant elements in the universe. All stars make it, all novas distribute it, all planets contain it (it's IIRC the 2nd or third most common element on Earth and Mars, for instance) - which is why we also see water everywhere (H2O - 'cuz hydrogen is THE most abundant substance, and nuclear precursor to oxygen and everything else.)

It costs some energy to refine, though not much, and remember that it can also be recovered from the Co2 we exhale - again, with an energy cost, but a piddling amount compared to the energy required to power a hyperdrive or beam weapon etc..
 

SnowyNI

SnowyNI
It's why there is no old looking NPC mission givers... Get your fresh burger today at McGeriatrics - only 1.99 credits! ;)
 

Kaybe

Kaybe
It's also the 34th century. I suspect technology has advanced to the point where they can synthesize oxygen without needing to carry trees around.
 
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