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Still getting through Boomers article.

However, did anybody see Trump make up yet another terror attack? His administration has now created three false terror attacks. Bowling Green Massacre, Atlanta Massacre, and now the Swedish Massacre. Forget Obama, if any other President, Bush, Regan, Clinton, etc, would have said or done these things, they would have been impeached awhile ago.

Trumpian's how can you support this moron?
 
Indeed, Aereon, how can they keep supporting him?

I can forgive a dreamer living on hope and wanting to believe a fairy tale that could bring him out of any misery he is in. And I feel bad for those people now, seeing their hopes crumble.
But those who continue to support unconstitutional actions, lies, an administration "for the people" containing a ridiculous number from the 1%, and - yes I am going to write it - DICTATORIAL behavior from the most powerful house in the world..
..I have no words fit for this forum.
 
Still getting through Boomers article.

Persist! It is fantastic.

However, did anybody see Trump make up yet another terror attack? His administration has now created three false terror attacks. Bowling Green Massacre, Atlanta Massacre, and now the Swedish Massacre. Forget Obama, if any other President, Bush, Regan, Clinton, etc, would have said or done these things, they would have been impeached awhile ago.

Trumpian's how can you support this moron?

The joke is getting old. When is this clown going to go and a president with an even basic grasp of reality going to emerge?
 
I can't wrap my head around him having gone on an election rally for 2020?...........geezes........I mean seriously....how? why? My brain just locks up.
 
Indeed, Aereon, how can they keep supporting him?

I can forgive a dreamer living on hope and wanting to believe a fairy tale that could bring him out of any misery he is in. And I feel bad for those people now, seeing their hopes crumble.
But those who continue to support unconstitutional actions, lies, an administration "for the people" containing a ridiculous number from the 1%, and - yes I am going to write it - DICTATORIAL behavior from the most powerful house in the world..
..I have no words fit for this forum.

For certain. I get what they wanted... I understand completely. Personally I feel there is to much big money in campaigns and that's not just in USA. My own country as well. I like the idea of having someone in office that has earned the title and the place... but this is just disgraceful. Even to them, the die hard supports, there has to be a point at which they are starting to question this choice. I mean, you can't keep chalking everything up to fake news. When you hit your thumb with a hammer do you scream fake news? And your point about the 1% is spot on. I knew he would do that. I don't even think this guy knows anybody outside of that group.

As for a dictator... I saw an article a couple of days ago that compared Trump to Putin. I guess Putin in his first year in office attacked the media as well, putting them down and carving through them. So today they have little to no effect on the control he brings to the table of leadership. This article suspected that Trump was doing the same. It also put forth the notion that he would try and pass a new law in these years coming that would guarantee he would be able to keep office, after his term is up. I assume that would be more of a repeal and not a new law. Finally the author suspected that he was going to try and setup a dynasty where by his children were automatically made president instead of the voters getting to vote for another. Not sure how much of the last part I believe (or hope is just crazy) but the first part about the media seemed spot on.

Persist! It is fantastic.

The joke is getting old. When is this clown going to go and a president with an even basic grasp of reality going to emerge?

Will do. I am half way through. I just keep getting interrupted by my four monsters. So far its a very interesting read. Which surprises me. 4Chan isn't always... palatable.

As for a real president, a lot of people here in Canada keep saying "Pence would be worse" but... would he? Honestly... at the very least I suspect he wouldn't be making things up like a toddler who wants a cookie searching for reasons.

I can't wrap my head around him having gone on an election rally for 2020?...........geezes........I mean seriously....how? why? My brain just locks up.

I know. Its crazy. He's in need of attention I suspect. The guy only cares about how much people love him, not what he is doing to his country. You think with that mind set he would begin to realize that he is going to go down as one of the worst, if not the worst, presidents in the history of America. He's going to be immortalized all right, but for all the reasons he doesn't want to be. And his supporters don't seem to see that. America is going to be worse, is getting worse, not great.

America used to be a beacon for the planet [to some degree, I know I am stretching here but I am trying to appeal to his supporters]. "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free," What ever happened to this idea? Did it even exist?

I thought America was the country with less fear, not the country that fears everything?
 
a lot of people here in Canada keep saying "Pence would be worse" but... would he? Honestly... at the very least I suspect he wouldn't be making things up like a toddler who wants a cookie searching for reasons.
I don't know, but some say Pence - who admire Lenin, btw - is running half the show already. And that is scary, since he in an interview with a Danish reporter claimed the only thing that can save Europe is WAR. (not fake news, I can provide the article if needed)

Oh, and on another note:
The Sweedish embassy demands to know what Trump meant about his statements. lol
Apparently the @Sweden twitter account is sweating it out trying to console concerned people that there have been no terrorist attack or anything else bad happening in the country.
 
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Considering how fast Obama aged due to his presidency, I guess all that will be left of Trump in 2-3 years will be this :

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( On a fence, no less. Sadly I couldn't find a orange hair ... erm, sorry, a Tumbleweed, of course, stuck on a wall )

Lets just hope John Oliver's educational commercial attack on Trump is enough to prevent some damage...
[video=youtube;i296CJMOZpk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i296CJMOZpk[/video]
This were so evil if it weren't meant to educate the POTUS on things he really should know.
 
Still getting through Boomers article.

However, did anybody see Trump make up yet another terror attack? His administration has now created three false terror attacks. Bowling Green Massacre, Atlanta Massacre, and now the Swedish Massacre. Forget Obama, if any other President, Bush, Regan, Clinton, etc, would have said or done these things, they would have been impeached awhile ago.

Trumpian's how can you support this moron?

The analysis I've seen suggest that the "he tells it like it is" stuff is because people feel like he understands them. Trump makes stuff up all the time, but he tells people "there is something terribly wrong with America", and "you are being treated badly".

The statistics tell a different story, but those who feel that life is being unfair to them think that he understands them, and that he's the only one telling the truth.

It's depressingly stupid, but it's probably real. He's very much a false messiah, but people want to believe that they are right and the world is wrong.
 
Linking 4chan with the rise of trump is giving 4chan way too much credit. These guys once spammed a forum of mine with tubgirl pics, unaware of the fact that we had shadowbanned all of their accounts, and then proclaimed "mission accomplished" without noticing that their deed had zero effect.
The article is about much more than Trump, and doesn't claim that he was enthroned by the Anons as such. The phenomenon reaches outside the peculiar echo-chamber of 4chan anyway. The anti-immigration activists in Finland display similar behavior on their forums, and when it spills to the real world.

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I don't know, but some say Pence - who admire Lenin, btw - is running half the show already. And that is scary, since he in an interview with a Danish reporter claimed the only thing that can save Europe is WAR. (not fake news, I can provide the article if needed)

You're talking about Steve Bannon, not vice president Pence here. Very different characters, with different issues.
 
I don't know, but some say Pence - who admire Lenin, btw - is running half the show already. And that is scary, since he in an interview with a Danish reporter claimed the only thing that can save Europe is WAR. (not fake news, I can provide the article if needed)

Oh, and on another note:
The Sweedish embassy demands to know what Trump meant about his statements. lol
Apparently the @Sweden twitter account is sweating it out trying to console concerned people that there have been no terrorist attack or anything else bad happening in the country.

I haven't heard that Pence is a huge Lenin fan. I will have to look around. I have done some research on the man. I forget who in this thread directed me to do so. Might have been my friend Adept a little while ago. I did find out that he holds a lot of the same beliefs as Trump and his administration, thus why he was selected. I see him sort of as a presidential hopeful (not my hope). What I mean is, I am curious if he took the office in the hope that Trump would be impeached at some point so he can take power. There is a term for this, but I forget it. We see it a lot in action movies or war flicks though...

Pence is not a good guy, by far, either. I just wonder if he is less of a wing nut.

Considering how fast Obama aged due to his presidency, I guess all that will be left of Trump in 2-3 years will be this :

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2...8-tumbleweed-hanging-chain-link-fence-670.jpg

( On a fence, no less. Sadly I couldn't find a orange hair ... erm, sorry, a Tumbleweed, of course, stuck on a wall )

Lets just hope John Oliver's educational commercial attack on Trump is enough to prevent some damage...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i296CJMOZpk
This were so evil if it weren't meant to educate the POTUS on things he really should know.

John Oliver is fantastic. Very intelligent too. Never would I have thought of doing this. I saw this episode, it was fantastic. I watch him quite a lot when I am home.

The analysis I've seen suggest that the "he tells it like it is" stuff is because people feel like he understands them. Trump makes stuff up all the time, but he tells people "there is something terribly wrong with America", and "you are being treated badly".

The statistics tell a different story, but those who feel that life is being unfair to them think that he understands them, and that he's the only one telling the truth.

It's depressingly stupid, but it's probably real. He's very much a false messiah, but people want to believe that they are right and the world is wrong.

Confirmation bias. His camp is full of it. It's a pretty natural human condition but seems to be something his followers aren't aware of or even might not believe exists. I get the feeling; that is to say I understand why they would feel the way they do and want to see a change... but sometimes when ten people hate you, and only one likes you, its not the world that is doing you a disservice, its you doing a disservice to those around you or perhaps even the world. His people aren't very critical of themselves, in fact they are only critical of those whom they feel appose their own views or are displaying traits they do not agree with. I get quite a few private messages on these forums from his followers, believe it or not, mostly all personal attacks. They do not like being proven wrong, nor do they enjoy having a quality and mature discussion with facts.

That word facts has become a dirty word, as has liberal. Even snowflake--which funny enough used to mean something very different. Originally the term 'snowflake' used to be used to describe someone who was opposed to the abolition of slavery. Imagine that... History tends not to be a strong suit with these people.
 
Considering how fast Obama aged due to his presidency, I guess all that will be left of Trump in 2-3 years will be this :

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2...8-tumbleweed-hanging-chain-link-fence-670.jpg

( On a fence, no less. Sadly I couldn't find a orange hair ... erm, sorry, a Tumbleweed, of course, stuck on a wall )

Lets just hope John Oliver's educational commercial attack on Trump is enough to prevent some damage...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i296CJMOZpk
This were so evil if it weren't meant to educate the POTUS on things he really should know.

Ironic knowing that Tumbleweeds are an invasive species from Russia... :p
 
Oh, and on another note:
The Sweedish embassy demands to know what Trump meant about his statements. lol
Apparently the @Sweden twitter account is sweating it out trying to console concerned people that there have been no terrorist attack or anything else bad happening in the country.

This has really awakened a realization within me about the gulf between Trump supporters and everyone else, the massive problem the world now faces in the post-truth world, and the absolute catastrophe looming before us. Watching social media, particularly twitter, has been fascinating during the last few hours. I've hardly slept, so forgive any ramblings here. Maybe I'm just panicking about nothing. I hope so. But this really does look bad.

There are a few new ironic/sarcastic/mocking hashtags. #pray4sweden is an example. Ikea is enjoying massive amounts of free publicity as people mockingly produce "we will rebuild" memes.

But I looked at some other places to get a feel for how this was playing out. There is a sizeable group of people out there who are absolutely convinced there has been some sort of riot or Islamic terrorist attack, and that attack is being covered up by the new world order liberal media or whatever. And it isn't just one or two random loons either. They're finding things, whether crimes committed by immigrants (or people who look like they might be immigrants) to events years old, and bringing them up as if that excuses Trump making stuff up.

Even as I type things "news" is being manufactured to fit with what Trump said last night, only instead of being done by some shadowy organization a-la 1984 it is being done by the Trump supporters at large. I have a horrible feeling that this is going to exhaust the media and Trumps opponents, and will become the "new normal" very quickly. If that happens there is a very real risk of Trump getting a second term or even having an even worse successor like Bannon or some other nutjob.
 
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This has really awakened a realization within me about the gulf between Trump supporters and everyone else, the massive problem the world now faces in the post-truth world, and the absolute catastrophe looming before us. Watching social media, particularly twitter, has been fascinating during the last few hours. I've hardly slept, so forgive any ramblings here. Maybe I'm just panicking about nothing. I hope so. But this really does look bad.

There are a few new ironic/sarcastic/mocking hashtags. #pray4sweden is an example. Ikea is enjoying massive amounts of free publicity as people mockingly produce "we will rebuild" memes.

But I looked at some other places to get a feel for how this was playing out. There is a sizeable group of people out there who are absolutely convinced there has been some sort of riot or Islamic terrorist attack, and that attack is being covered up by the new world order liberal media or whatever. And it isn't just one or two random loons either. They're finding things, whether crimes committed by immigrants (or people who look like they might be immigrants) to events years old, and bringing them up as if that excuses Trump making stuff up.

Even as I type things "news" is being manufactured to fit with what Trump said last night, only instead of being done by some shadowy organization a-la 1984 it is being done by the Trump supporters at large. I have a horrible feeling that this is going to exhaust the media and Trumps opponents, and will become the "new normal" very quickly. If that happens there is a very real risk of Trump getting a second term or even having an even worse successor like Bannon or some other nutjob.

Which leads back to the 4chan article. Not the board as such, but it's audience, who's so detached from reality, they try to understand the world from their basement. And the more they read about it (even in real media), the more threatened they feel.

What can one do? Well, when you read revies of "the world" on tripadvisor.com, you get the impression the world is a highly mediocra place. A 5.
When you listen to me talk about the world, it's an awesone place full of wonders - including cockroaches on your bathroom floor and goats in your 3rd class bus in the middle of the mexican desert. I can only highly recommend leaving that basement. Come to Germany. (we all know Sweden is a mess .. rampaging moose everywhere).
 
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