Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

If we get a Treetops Pack without a Two Toed Sloth species, I’ll riot.
We already got a rainforest pack with a sloth, these 2 deserve a shot.
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We already got a rainforest pack with a sloth, these 2 deserve a shot.
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To this day I still think of every animal the golden lion tamarin is Frontier’s biggest missed opportunity. More so than any other monkey, bird, baboon, reptile, etc.

What animal is more universally recognized for the role zoos played in its conservation? Very few, with two of those animals coming in the conservation pack. Obviously these are hundreds of other species around the globe, but none as as common ore recognizable as the GLT.

I’m happy we got the siamang, but the GLT was begging to be included in the conservation pack.
 
How Would You Lot Do A Temperate Pack?

I'll Start
Temperate Pack:
  1. Mandarin Duck
  2. Short-beaked Echidna
  3. Wapiti
  4. European Pine Marten
  5. European Stag Beetle
  6. Native American Scenery Set
Temperate Animal Pack:
  1. American Black Bear
  2. European Pine Marten
  3. Wild Turkey
  4. Mandarin Duck
  5. Short-beaked Echidna
  6. Pyrenean Chamois
  7. Wapiti
  8. European Stag Beetle
 
If we get a Treetops Pack without a Two Toed Sloth species, I’ll riot.
Treetops pack without NA porcupine would not be complete for me. Unique arboreal rodent would be great for that.
Not sure why they are not popular at all even within the US player base. In my opinion it would bring much more to the table than ABB and believe me I love all bears.
In Europe we love these guys at zoos. They are active all year round and present really unique behaviors.

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I can excuse people saying they prefer waiting for PZ2 instead of getting a new DLC in the thread about new DLC speculation, but I draw the line at users of Frontier's forum saying they would like if Frontier abandons its staple piece-by-piece system for building games :mad:


And we were thinking that discussion was dying with all this talking about "the end is near"... 😅
No one’s actually said they want frontier to abandon piece-by-piece.. Iben said he wouldn’t be overly surprised to see it happen but explicitly said he wouldn’t support / like it.
 
Treetops pack without NA porcupine would not be complete for me. Unique arboreal rodent would be great for that.
Not sure why they are not popular at all even within the US player base. In my opinion it would bring much more to the table than ABB and believe me I love all bears.
In Europe we love these guys at zoos. They are active all year round and present really unique behaviors.

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I would love to see this guy in the game. Even more than Brazilian species.

I just wouldn't want it, if it means taking the designer's time off of other animals in such pack (Mostly monkeys (Mostly Spider Monkey)) like Crested Porcupine did.

But personally, in vacuum, is in top tier of my wishlist
 
No one’s actually said they want frontier to abandon piece-by-piece.. Iben said he wouldn’t be overly surprised to see it happen but explicitly said he wouldn’t support / like it.
I would not like them to abandon the system but it would be great if the game could contain more well made blueprints that are actually placeable.
A lot of blueprints from the workshop are very hard to place properly and there are a lots of people who are not great builders.
 
Treetops pack without NA porcupine would not be complete for me. Unique arboreal rodent would be great for that.
Not sure why they are not popular at all even within the US player base. In my opinion it would bring much more to the table than ABB and believe me I love all bears.
In Europe we love these guys at zoos. They are active all year round and present really unique behaviors.

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I agree - I’ve wanted an arboreal porcupine, whether it’s the NA or Brazilian, since we got the ACP
 
Treetops pack without NA porcupine would not be complete for me. Unique arboreal rodent would be great for that.
Not sure why they are not popular at all even within the US player base. In my opinion it would bring much more to the table than ABB and believe me I love all bears.
In Europe we love these guys at zoos. They are active all year round and present really unique behaviors.

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Another awesome rodent for NA, and something I can see in the wild by my home. Yeah I’m down for it.
 
Treetops pack without NA porcupine would not be complete for me. Unique arboreal rodent would be great for that.
Not sure why they are not popular at all even within the US player base. In my opinion it would bring much more to the table than ABB and believe me I love all bears.
In Europe we love these guys at zoos. They are active all year round and present really unique behaviors.

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Either them or the Brazilian Species are equally amazing and would be great to get, I just don't want them to pull an african porcupine and spend all their time on it and leave none for the rest of the animals in the pack.
 
No one’s actually said they want frontier to abandon piece-by-piece.. Iben said he wouldn’t be overly surprised to see it happen but explicitly said he wouldn’t support / like it.
And TBH there's so many ways to accommodate middle ground with the right creative mindset. Just a few ideas/examples that come to mind: Creating a tool similar to what we have for terrain editing where you can "stamp" buildings of certain sizes/shapes/heights to get you started. Adding a material swapping tool like PK has. Adding a foliage brush (e.g., a palette of up to 6 different plants and/or rocks that it will place down at random based). Adding map skirts that feel "fuller" from the start. Adding an "auto-roof" feature or having preset blueprints with full roof set-ups (e.g., give us the pieces for rooves, eaves, and gutters all separately but have presets that include these built-on already).

Having better in-game tutorials and explanations for what certain pieces are is another thing that could help too. There's so many pieces in this game that I had to google what they were because I had no idea how they were meant to be used...

And those are just random ideas I've come up with just now! There's so much room for them to make it easier for people while also allowing folks who want to build everything piece-by-piece. And let's be real here... Even people who like building everything could find use in some of those tools above.
 
That's kind of obvious though. Blueprints don't really work that well for intricate builds without some way of including pathing in the blueprint. Frankly I also don't buy that the building system is criticised more than the pathing. Plus, it's not like there are many blueprint 'sets'. If you have a vision for your zoo, do you really want a medieval castle in one corner and a modern glass dome in another and a mix of stuff of various levels of detail in the middle? Consistency is key and it's hard to be consistent using blueprints since the intricacy varies between them.

IMO a lot of people would have a lot more fun with the game if they stopped trying to emulate pro-builders like SalamAnders or whoever and just kept it simple. I've made highly-detailed builds before, and although the end result was gratifying, knowing that I would have to maintain that level of detail again and again and again was a real motivation killer, so it wasn't long before I returned to the tried-and-true ideal that, "not every zoo is a big budget world-class enterprise".

That said I do not want JWE's system implemented into future planet games. At all. That would be a huge step backwards.
The blueprint system is horrible they are just glorified facades. The inability to add pathing create proper habitats or prevent terrain collision when placing them make blueprints suck. When I first played planet zoo I didnt know how to build so almost exclusively relied on blueprints biggest mistake I ever made. Blueprints and paths made me not play the game for over a year because I just couldnt get either to work.
Also I agree most people have too many unrealistic expectations of themselves. Toning down the detail of my builds and working on a smaller scale has helped so much with both lag and motivation.
Tree Kangaroo and Highland Cattle, is the universe giving anyone else any other signs lately?
Im so sad both my april and may animals are already in game the red panda and red kanagroo
Speaking of savannah packs. How would people feel about this interpretation of a Savannah Animal Pack?

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1. Secretary: Must have inclusion due to being so highly requested for so long
2. Blackbuck: Simple but highly requested animal, nice filler animal for india
3. Patas Monkey olive baboon: a baboon
4. Argentine Tegu: An inhabitant of the tropical savannahs and grasslands, but also rainforests of SA, making it a versatile new habitat reptile.
5. Honey Badger: Meme animal with a big personality and an even bigger range
6: Patagonian Mara: The first half of the uber common arid SA duo
7: Greater Rhea: Followed up by the second half
8: King Cobra: Requested and iconic snake, could be also the monocled or indian cobra really

I feel pretty confident about this one. Its nice and diverse having 1 representative for carnivorans, ungulates, primates, rodents and reptiles, and 2 birds in the habitat animals.
And it should be a doable mix of simple animals in the blackbuck, rhea, tegu and badger and more complicated ones with the rest.
As i said before this isnt really final pack material for me, but if we get like a couple more packs this is something i would really enjoy.
There fixed it for you
Would rather have a different kind of habitat lizard instead of a 4th monitor
Im still salty we have 3 different tropical monitors and not a single desert one especially one from a continent known for its big monitors. I do agree tegu is a better choice though more diversity is always a good thing.
 
Im still salty we have 3 different tropical monitors and not a single desert one especially one from a continent known for its big monitors. I do agree tegu is a better choice though more diversity is always a good thing.
Nile and komodo do live in grassland and more arid type envoironments tho, so its not like they are all tropical rainforest species
 
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