Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

It's impressive that the "i see this animal a lot in the wild irl, hence i don't want it" argument only show up when NA/Europe animals or domestics are being discussed.

Like i see seriemas and toucans almost everyday, and stuff like coatis and maned wolves regularly, but this never made me want then less, quite the opposite (and i'm prety sure that if i say something like it, i would be crucify).
Same here.

Capybaras, roseate spoonbills, southern screamers, rheas, maras, coatis, condors, etc. I've seen them several times in the wild and in captivity and i still really want them for the game. Granted except for the first three, they are not really common in my area but still.

Like you said it seems to be an european/north american thing... although even though to me a lot of those animals would be "exotic" they are not interesting to me either (with some exceptions). Never wanted the raccoon or the skunk, or cared at all about the ABB and i was impartial to the moose. And i deffinetly don't want a white taled or mule deer. Only northamerican animals left i have true interest in are the roadrunner, the musk ox and the sea otter.
 
This is an interesting discussions about "common" animals based on various places. Sounds like a good idea for a thread. Like comparing the SA equal of the Raccoon is the Coati - so what is the African, Asian, Oceanian and European equal? Clearly not all animals would have equals, but could make for an interesting separate thread
 
This is an interesting discussions about "common" animals based on various places. Sounds like a good idea for a thread. Like comparing the SA equal of the Raccoon is the Coati - so what is the African, Asian, Oceanian and European equal? Clearly not all animals would have equals, but could make for an interesting separate thread
The equivalent of the raccoon in Asia and Europe is probably just the raccoon, which has been introduced to many places and runs rampant.

Anyway, am I the only one who doesn't want the last pack to be focused on a singular part of the world? I'd be much happier with a random grab bag of animals we actually need instead of a Latin America Pack with one monkey and a bunch of who cares.
 
This is an interesting discussions about "common" animals based on various places. Sounds like a good idea for a thread. Like comparing the SA equal of the Raccoon is the Coati - so what is the African, Asian, Oceanian and European equal? Clearly not all animals would have equals, but could make for an interesting separate thread
Mmm it depends really because coatis are not common everywhere. In my country they are only seen in the North, border with Brazil. And they are not really urban animals.

We don't have raccoons where i live but we do have possums. They can be found in the city but they are not seen often, so i don't know if there is an equivalent to the raccoon here. We have rats and pigeons though 😂
 
Anyway, am I the only one who doesn't want the last pack to be focused on a singular part of the world?
Nope I would definitely prefer an all around the world pack - the only exception I could maybe make is a Latin America focused pack but it has to have like all the actual cool picks like Spider Monkey, Brazilian Porcupine, Scarlet Ibis, Tamarins, Brown Pelican etc. instead of the ones frontier probably will pick like Ocelot, Rhea and Mara which imo are more boring. And since frontier probably won't choose any of the species I listed earlier for what I want in a LA pack, then a worldwide pack is the way to go 100%.
 
The equivalent of the raccoon in Asia and Europe is probably just the raccoon, which has been introduced to many places and runs rampant.

Anyway, am I the only one who doesn't want the last pack to be focused on a singular part of the world? I'd be much happier with a random grab bag of animals we actually need instead of a Latin America Pack with one monkey and a bunch of who cares.
Nah i would also generally prefer a global wrap up pack. But if it has to be focused on one region its latin america.
But thats assuming both are equally desireable roster wise (for me), because there definetly is a version of a lat pack that id take over a global one and vice versa
 
At this point i know i would be dissapointed no matter what it is lol

My preference would be a LATAM pack because i've been waiting for several of those animals for four years and i know in a worldwide pack i'll get 2 at best. At the same time i want more birds of different kinds and i doubt a pack would feature more than 2 no matter what the theme is. And i also want animals from other parts of the world (blackbuck, musk ox, Palla's cat, grey crowned crane, secretary bird, etc) but once again i doubt i'll get the ones i want lol
 
Nope I would definitely prefer an all around the world pack - the only exception I could maybe make is a Latin America focused pack but it has to have like all the actual cool picks like Spider Monkey, Brazilian Porcupine, Scarlet Ibis, Tamarins, Brown Pelican etc. instead of the ones frontier probably will pick like Ocelot, Rhea and Mara which imo are more boring. And since frontier probably won't choose any of the species I listed earlier for what I want in a LA pack, then a worldwide pack is the way to go 100%.
That's about where I'm at too. I'll gladly take a Central, South or general Latin America pack. Any other regions of the world though, no thank you, I'd prefer an all "around the world pack". Outside of Africa and Latin America there's just not enough mammals that would really interest me to make anything beyond a scenery pack, much less some kind of supersized or last pack. But taking around 2 species from each of Europe, Asia, North America and Oceania and I could definitely come up with part of a finale/around the world pack, even supersized.
Just including mammals here:
Europe - really just the Eurasian Otter
Asia - Sulawesi Bear Cuscus, Markhor, Blackbuck
North America - American Black Bear, Muskox
Oceania - Tree Kangaroo, Echidna

That's 8 and I'm being fairly generous. My real priorities are the ABB, TK and SBC (though I really don't see the last making it in). Of course, always happy for another Otter.

I could list a good dozen mammals I'd still like to see from Africa and 20 or more from Latin America.
 
At this point i know i would be dissapointed no matter what it is lol

My preference would be a LATAM pack because i've been waiting for several of those animals for four years and i know in a worldwide pack i'll get 2 at best. At the same time i want more birds of different kinds and i doubt a pack would feature more than 2 no matter what the theme is. And i also want animals from other parts of the world (blackbuck, musk ox, Palla's cat, grey crowned crane, secretary bird, etc) but once again i doubt i'll get the ones i want lol
Yeah if the next is the last pack its going to be dissapointing no matter what. Simply because everything that didnt make the cut is doomed, and there is no way to bring PZ to a satisfying end with one pack, even a slightly bigger one (atleast in my eyes)
 
I'm honestly done with regional packs except for Central/South America. That's the only place that deserves a pack focused on that area in my opinion. Otherwise, I'd rather see packs like what the Wetlands/Grasslands packs did: a selection of various animals from all over the world.

Like, I could totally see a Forest pack that could bring in a few more requested animals, like the ABB (I'm sorry if y'all hate it, but like it or not it's the last essential for NA) or even the tree kangaroo for Oceanía. But having packs dedicated to those 2 regions are gonna be huge pains in the rear end.

And don't get me wrong, I'd love to have many more animals from everywhere, but I'd be bummed if we got North America 4, Oceanía 3, África 3, and Asia 4. Like, c'mon, Frontier, y'all knew we didn't want a huge amount of animals from here, we wanted South America. Give us South America or give us international. Nothing in between
 
I'm honestly done with regional packs except for Central/South America. That's the only place that deserves a pack focused on that area in my opinion. Otherwise, I'd rather see packs like what the Wetlands/Grasslands packs did: a selection of various animals from all over the world.

Like, I could totally see a Forest pack that could bring in a few more requested animals, like the ABB (I'm sorry if y'all hate it, but like it or not it's the last essential for NA) or even the tree kangaroo for Oceanía. But having packs dedicated to those 2 regions are gonna be huge pains in the rear end.

And don't get me wrong, I'd love to have many more animals from everywhere, but I'd be bummed if we got North America 4, Oceanía 3, África 3, and Asia 4. Like, c'mon, Frontier, y'all knew we didn't want a huge amount of animals from here, we wanted South America. Give us South America or give us international. Nothing in between
We also need Asia pack
Markhor
Blackbuck
Golden peasant
Himalayan monal
 
I know not everything I want will be included in the final pack, I’m just hoping for them to add something to the specific species missing from the game. Obviously one pack can’t provide everything for LA, but it can give us a baboon, more waterfowl and a monkey. New animals are new animals and with probably a couple from the meta wishlist crossed off I’ll be happy with what we get - unless it’s anything to do with North America then I myself will be 😢
 
We also need Asia pack
Markhor
Blackbuck
Golden peasant
Himalayan monal
I mean, there are some animals, buy I doubt it's enough for a dedicated pack. Because each continent needs a small handful (except South America) to feel good/complete-ish
On a different note, when would be the dlc revealed/teased today?
Stop confusing me with your 8 hours ahead time zone. It's still Sunday for me
 
I mean, there are some animals, buy I doubt it's enough for a dedicated pack. Because each continent needs a small handful (except South America) to feel good/complete-ish

Stop confusing me with your 8 hours ahead time zone. It's still Sunday for me
5 hours into monday baby ( please ignore my messed up sleep schedule :D )
 
It's impressive that the "i see this animal a lot in the wild irl, hence i don't want it" argument only show up when NA/Europe animals or domestics are being discussed.

Like i see seriemas and toucans almost everyday, and stuff like coatis and maned wolves regularly, but this never made me want then less, quite the opposite (and i'm prety sure that if i say something like it, i would be crucify).
Same for you as it is for me and Australian species. Cockatoos are really common (can be flocks in the hundreds), even just here in Adelaide, you've got Little & Long-billed Corellas (the Long-billed has an orange-red chest), Sulphur-crested, Yellow-tailed Blacks and Galahs, all in significant numbers (though they move around seasonally). I'd still be happy with any one of them.

Rainbow Lorikeets are really common, even in the city, but there's plenty of similar parrots in local Zoos, such as Red-collared Lorikeets, and Lories generally.

When it comes to larger animals, they're kind of uncommon/noteworthy. I volunteered weeding at a National Park for a year or so, we occasionally saw kangaroos before starting, and found a koala once. Apart from that I found a Koala skull (it's narrower than you'd think, they've a fair volume of fur) and part of an Emu feather (a Y shape), and stumbled close to a large Grey Kangaroo, before it fled.

This is an interesting discussions about "common" animals based on various places. Sounds like a good idea for a thread. Like comparing the SA equal of the Raccoon is the Coati - so what is the African, Asian, Oceanian and European equal? Clearly not all animals would have equals, but could make for an interesting separate thread
Australian dumpster divers tend to be White Ibis (Bin chickens) and Crows (Side note: All Australian Crows/Ravens have a white iris as an adult), sometimes Silver gulls & Cockatoos, potentially Foxes (though I've not heard of it).
 
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This is an interesting discussions about "common" animals based on various places. Sounds like a good idea for a thread. Like comparing the SA equal of the Raccoon is the Coati - so what is the African, Asian, Oceanian and European equal? Clearly not all animals would have equals, but could make for an interesting separate thread

The raccoon equivalent in tropical Asia is definitely monkeys. For the Indian Subcontinent, depending on where you are, it's a combination of one of the two common macaques (rhesus/bonnet) and the local grey langur species. Rhesus is the most analogous to raccoons as the bonnet macaque has counterintuitively become IUCN Vulnerable with a steady long-term decline, partly due to rhesuses being able to outcompete them in human-dominated areas. In Southeast Asia, long-tailed macaques are also going through decline for different reasons. But I do think it is interesting that some tropical Asian "common" animals are so threatened in global perspective.

More PZ-able mammals seen as "common" in India: many species of mongoose; Asian palm civet (it's very much an urban animal here), and less so the small Indian civet; wild boar (many people don't even distinguish them from free-roaming domestic pigs); crested porcupine (I still haven't seen one, but they're in a lot of cities); Indian flying fox (literally everywhere); and nilgai (even considered vermin). I'll add axis deer as I often see them just rolling around in trash on the outskirts of my city.

I'm solidly in the camp of people who want to see their local common animals in-game. India is weird in that every zoo will have nilgai and grey langurs even if there are literal wild nilgai and grey langurs in the forest patch right outside. Conversely, people here attach a lot of value to "foreign" or "exotic" things, so they totally undervalue local species like gaur, striped hyena and dhole compared to their foreign equivalents. Local safari operators advertise gharials as alligators to attract local tourism. This is all ironic because a lot of Indians now don't even know what a gharial or dhole is. India has conserved the world's largest populations of many Asian megafauna with almost zero public appreciation for anything besides lions, tigers, rhinos and elephants!
 
The raccoon equivalent in tropical Asia is definitely monkeys. For the Indian Subcontinent, depending on where you are, it's a combination of one of the two common macaques (rhesus/bonnet) and the local grey langur species. Rhesus is the most analogous to raccoons as the bonnet macaque has counterintuitively become IUCN Vulnerable with a steady long-term decline, partly due to rhesuses being able to outcompete them in human-dominated areas. In Southeast Asia, long-tailed macaques are also going through decline for different reasons. But I do think it is interesting that some tropical Asian "common" animals are so threatened in global perspective.

More PZ-able mammals seen as "common" in India: many species of mongoose; Asian palm civet (it's very much an urban animal here), and less so the small Indian civet; wild boar (many people don't even distinguish them from free-roaming domestic pigs); crested porcupine (I still haven't seen one, but they're in a lot of cities); Indian flying fox (literally everywhere); and nilgai (even considered vermin). I'll add axis deer as I often see them just rolling around in trash on the outskirts of my city.

I'm solidly in the camp of people who want to see their local common animals in-game. India is weird in that every zoo will have nilgai and grey langurs even if there are literal wild nilgai and grey langurs in the forest patch right outside. Conversely, people here attach a lot of value to "foreign" or "exotic" things, so they totally undervalue local species like gaur, striped hyena and dhole compared to their foreign equivalents. Local safari operators advertise gharials as alligators to attract local tourism. This is all ironic because a lot of Indians now don't even know what a gharial or dhole is. India has conserved the world's largest populations of many Asian megafauna with almost zero public appreciation for anything besides lions, tigers, rhinos and elephants!
So what would your india pack be like?
 
Aussie raccoon equivalent would have to be brushtail possum. If we had a “roadkill/pest” pack, it would be:
  • brushtail possum
  • common wombat
  • bin chicken (sacred ibis)
  • red fox
  • swamp wallaby

^ the inclusion of wombat in Twilight was fitting.
 
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