Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

Why exactly did PC stop getting support? Was it because everything had been added? Or was it lack of investments?

I read the updates just silently stopped, there was no news or indication it was going to cease receiving support/updates.

(I never played it as I wasn't interested in it)
 
Why exactly did PC stop getting support? Was it because everything had been added? Or was it lack of investments?

I read the updates just silently stopped, there was no news or indication it was going to cease receiving support/updates.

(I never played it as I wasn't interested in it)
Not sure exactly, my thoughts was the upcoming release of planet zoo and a game which couldn't gather much more support with dlcs in such a limited range of choices. One last hurrah with branded ghostbusters dlc and console support a year later. Everyone always said proper water rides were always a possibility for a huge expansion but I feel the same way now with planet zoo, would a hugely ambitious dlc gather that much support than usual? Just give a send-away expansion dlc and console support and sales will continue for years on end as they continue to do.
 
Also guys remember steamdb can indicate us if they are working in a dlc with the outsource_lqa depot. This has the last word
I'd say that their financial documents also are an indication and could already be the last word. Much more than the potential console release.

They're in a situation where they need to reassure (potential) investors, they've always explicitly stated their plans for the next FY or CY when it came to PDLCs in the previous years, they've stated that JWE2 and PZ are their main forms of income and that PDLC were at least a quarter of their income last year. If they had more PDLC planned for FY25, it would be very weird that they don't announce it at a time where they only benefit from announcing it. The conclusion that there might very well not be anymore PDLC in FY25 isn't that far fetched.

Honestly, that's what we should focus on more than the console release. Sure, the console release is also an additional indication, as mentioned earlier it is a very smart financial decision that will bring them money at a lower cost than developing new DLC and PC has shown that even without new DLC a console release is very successful; but the lack of confirmation is a much bigger indication.
 
It’s absurd to me that people are getting mad about specific aspects of a totally hypothetical game. We literally don’t know the first thing about what a potential Planet Zoo 2 would look like, or how far off it is. Why is it that the knee jerk assumption is that it will feature only minor tweaks over the current game? It’s completely ridiculous to treat that like anything close to fact.
Pls tell me what they could change in a game with near perfect building?

This games building side is close to perfect if not perfect allready, Management sucks but thats nothing an update cant fix.

We invested tons of money into a game and a sequel would in any case just be plain rude to people that are actual fans of planet zoo.

We either paid 200+ bucks for everything and need to pay 60+ bucks again to access it to get support again, not to mention that if planet zoo 2 is out, i dont see planet zoo 1s franchise mode to be supported anylonger.

Or we pay 60 bucks and dont even get everything we had before.

To me thats just a lose lose for anyone that isnt new to the game and Borderline predatory marketing.
I got not problem paying more money into a game i enjoy, but having that be invalidated by a sequel which realisticly wont do anything the current game couldnt is simply a scam.
 
Pls tell me what they could change in a game with near perfect building?

This games building side is close to perfect if not perfect allready, Management sucks but thats nothing an update cant fix.

We invested tons of money into a game and a sequel would in any case just be plain rude to people that are actual fans of planet zoo.

We either paid 200+ bucks for everything and need to pay 60+ bucks again to access it to get support again, not to mention that if planet zoo 2 is out, i dont see planet zoo 1s franchise mode to be supported anylonger.

Or we pay 60 bucks and dont even get everything we had before.

To me thats just a lose lose for anyone that isnt new to the game and Borderline predatory marketing.
I got not problem paying more money into a game i enjoy, but having that be invalidated by a sequel which realisticly wont do anything the current game couldnt is simply a scam.
The sad thing is that many companies do that exact thing, make a second game that could of just been an update utilising predatory marketing tactics. The main difference of course though, is that frontier has held onto the game for several years fleshing out content with satisfactory dlc packs. But that's the problem for the existing players, we have spent so much money on the game, got used to the amount of support including abundant choice of mods to make the game last for years without much need for a new game.

Players who like the game as it is obviously are not the target audience for these sequels, they are not going to be wowed by new graphics, a new interface etc because deep down they absolutely know the game is exactly the same with much less content for even more money. Seems with marketing these days, new players and casual players (like the steam forum commenters who think the only birds in the game are the kiwi and emu) are drawn to these sequels more than us.
 
Guys i think we are getting Planet Zoo console and future DLC


This is the video recording of the financial results presentation. Listen from 14 minutes onwards.

They say:
Broaden addressable audience
They know how successful planet coaster was on console and the success it brought
They look forward to players reaction and players will appreciate this game coming to console.

So its Planet Zoo console. Basically confirmed from what they are saying

Now interestingly: listen from 13 minutes 30

More dlc planned for PZ and jWE2
Each dlc met with good feedback from the community and strong sentiment
Predictable returns


I honestly think we are getting a console version and future DLC support
 
Surely, with Planet Zoo being such a strong game - just look at how busy this forum is and how well the game is selling - they will continue support after console release. I think it would be silly not to continue releasing DLCs after launching on console. Why wouldn't you expand your player base to an entire new console (maybe more - would it be PlayStation and XBox?) and keep releasing DLCs to keep those new players engaged. It's a cash cow!

This is definitely Frontier's most loved game, even if JWE2 technically sells a higher number of games (does it? I'd be surprised if it actually did), the community involvement doesn't hold a candle to Planet Zoo.

I love this game more than anything I've ever played and no other game could replace it. I'm not ready for support to end! I want new DLC and updates for many more years.

Edit: Listening from 14 mins on, as Sidzee said, you can hear a lot of very positive talk about how successful the DLCs have been for Planet Zoo. They also talk about how successful console release is, and expanding the game. The language used is not suggestive of retiring these games, but keeping them going across multiple platforms. It also certainly confirms Planet Coaster 2, which I'm hoping isn't going to be a threat to continued support for Planet Zoo. I think Planet Zoo will prove to be the more successful game of the two.
 
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Time for me to weight in on this 😂
I see two paths that Frontier could go down
1. The next pack will be the big finale pack, with console release being announced shortly thereafter. This will be like a last "hooray" to make PZ go out with a bang.

2. (The option I hope they take) The console release will signify that there is still a lot more life in PZ. And DLCs will continue to come out. Like others have stated, it would be a very foolish mistake to open Planet Zoo up to a whole new audience and then not give them any new content.

Either way, Planet Zoo has been a phenomenal game, and is easily the best zoo game ever made. I don't think anyone expected the game to go one for this long, and it's amazing to see the support PZ has gotten!
 
The language used is not suggestive of retiring these games, but keeping them going across multiple platforms.
A console port is a form of continuing the game's support though. Just not the one the community here wants, but it still is continued support. Support that will bring in revenue, at a smaller cost than making more DLC.

More dlc planned for PZ and jWE2
For the remaining fiscal year*. It's an incredibly important part of context to leave out 😅 They again do not mention anything beyond May 2024.

Again, for everyone who wants to read into these words in a way that seems to suggest that they're going to keep putting out more PDLCs, why would they not mention that they have more PDLC for the upcoming FY? They have done it in the past and if you have to reassure (potential) investors, telling people that your best selling games will be getting more PDLC is exactly the thing you would do no? Why would they keep it a secret, now of all times? This is a genuine question, because it makes very little sense for them not to if they are planning on doing it.

This is wishful thinking, but I don’t see why planet zoo can’t be a flagship title that is supported for years. Especially if it’s about to breach cross platform.
Isn't that what we've basically gotten though? The game has been supported for 4 years, that's quite a long time in gaming terms tbh.
 
Isn't that what we've basically gotten though? The game has been supported for 4 years, that's quite a long time in gaming terms tbh.
Yeah we definitely have, I guess I was thinking along the lines of Fortnite, League of Legends, Minecraft, and Team Fortress 2. Granted those games are probably the exception and have made way more money than I could imagine. Which is probably not what Planet Zoo is. Still, we really did have a good run.
 
I’ll admit I don’t know much of game development, so I’ll try to answer @Iben ‘s question in my ignorance. Maybe Frontier isn’t thinking of doing more PDLC, but it is dependent on how Planet Zoo does on console. If it does well they may think it could be worth to keep the ball rolling, if it doesn’t do well they already have a bunch of dlc and content for it already. Do I think this is likely? No, the game has been worked on for four years Frontier probably wants to move on. Could I see more dlc coming? Maybe, like I said it would be dependent on how the console release does.

Honestly I can see Frontier doing more dlc like this:

Duck Pack: $4.99

Comes with four ducks
  1. Mallard duck
  2. Wood duck
  3. Mandarin duck
  4. White faced whistling duck
No props, no scenery, no free update. Just a small animal pack made of similar animals. Frontier provides planet zoo with more content, but keeps development down. While allowing fans of certain groups of animals to get their fill.
 
I’ll admit I don’t know much of game development, so I’ll try to answer @Iben ‘s question in my ignorance. Maybe Frontier isn’t thinking of doing more PDLC, but it is dependent on how Planet Zoo does on console. If it does well they may think it could be worth to keep the ball rolling, if it doesn’t do well they already have a bunch of dlc and content for it already. Do I think this is likely? No, the game has been worked on for four years Frontier probably wants to move on. Could I see more dlc coming? Maybe, like I said it would be dependent on how the console release does.

Honestly I can see Frontier doing more dlc like this:

Duck Pack: $4.99

Comes with four ducks
  1. Mallard duck
  2. Wood duck
  3. Mandarin duck
  4. White faced whistling duck
No props, no scenery, no free update. Just a small animal pack made of similar animals. Frontier provides planet zoo with more content, but keeps development down. While allowing fans of certain groups of animals to get their fill.
Hand it over right now
 
Hand it over right now
I would if I could, it was just an example though. There could be packs of similar make:
All $4.99 all just 4 animals

  1. Duck Pack
  2. New World monkey pack
  3. Old world monkey pack
  4. Lizard pack/ Snake pack/ other exhibit animals idk
  5. Stork pack
So on and so forth, like I said, just an easy way for frontier to continue to provide support will cutting back developmental costs. No more free updates, props, scenery, etc. Just handfuls of animals here and there.
 
I’ll admit I don’t know much of game development, so I’ll try to answer @Iben ‘s question in my ignorance. Maybe Frontier isn’t thinking of doing more PDLC, but it is dependent on how Planet Zoo does on console. If it does well they may think it could be worth to keep the ball rolling, if it doesn’t do well they already have a bunch of dlc and content for it already. Do I think this is likely? No, the game has been worked on for four years Frontier probably wants to move on. Could I see more dlc coming? Maybe, like I said it would be dependent on how the console release does.

Honestly I can see Frontier doing more dlc like this:

Duck Pack: $4.99

Comes with four ducks
  1. Mallard duck
  2. Wood duck
  3. Mandarin duck
  4. White faced whistling duck
No props, no scenery, no free update. Just a small animal pack made of similar animals. Frontier provides planet zoo with more content, but keeps development down. While allowing fans of certain groups of animals to get their fill.
i would be okay with this 😂
 
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