Spring dlc Speculation 2023

As we're getting into hopefully the last third of the wait for news and reveals on what will be coming, I've thought to put down a list of potential themes and a possible headliner/big name seller/popular animal included. I know headliners are not always the most popular animal from our perspective, but for the most part the animals being used as the headliner are usually the most generally well known. Aside from SEA using the Sun Bear, and I suspect that's because of the leak a few months beforehand, and North America using the Beaver I think they all have been anyways, though the Koala and Kangaroo probably are so close in general familiarity that either could have been the headliner. I'm going to try to keep to that idea with some exceptions. So here goes:

Rainforest/Tropical - Sloth - not sure on exact species - I'm thinking this theme is the most likely theme we'll see sometime this year but I'm not sure it'll be the Q1 pack.
Islands - Tasmanian Devil - very hard to pick between this and the Kiwi.
a "Cold/Ice" type of theme, for lack of a real snazzy title - Walrus
Highlands - Wolverine (it's time for a mustelid to headline and the Wolverine is probably in the second tier of general familiarity)
Petting Zoo - Rabbit - not sure on exact species
Farmlands - Sheltland Pony, though this theme may be combined with the petting zoo idea.
Dry Lands - Crested Porcupine - this is more Savannah or Plains and scrubland, not Desert - but i think the theme is too close to Grasslands IMO
Desert - Dromedary
Avian - Toucan or Bald Eagle - potentially several birds honestly.
Nocturnal - our friends the Tasmanian Devil and the Kiwi both make good choices, though I suspect we won't see this type of theme, it too close to Twilight's theme.
Coastal - Walrus again
Arboreal - Sloth again
West Asia - Golden Jackal -- hear me out here, despite having soo many canines, we've not had one headline a pack as yet. Probably would not be the most well known, but could give us our final Canid.
India - Indian Cobra. A cobra is the only standard exhibit animal I think could headline a pack.

Any other ideas to add? I think that covers most of the more commonly discussed ideas but I could be missing something.
I have two id like to add:

Temperate Forest with Wild boar, Black bear, Tanuki, Golden snubnosed monkey and more.
Safari/ African adventure which could add a lot of the still missing african species like Black rhinos, a baboon, honey badgers and so on.
 
I have two id like to add:

Temperate Forest with Wild boar, Black bear, Tanuki, Golden snubnosed monkey and more.
Safari/ African adventure which could add a lot of the still missing african species like Black rhinos, a baboon, honey badgers and so on.
Yeah the safari pack had been discused before. I would prefer it to be a mix of animals from all over though, not just Africa.
 
As we're getting into hopefully the last third of the wait for news and reveals on what will be coming, I've thought to put down a list of potential themes and a possible headliner/big name seller/popular animal included. I know headliners are not always the most popular animal from our perspective, but for the most part the animals being used as the headliner are usually the most generally well known. Aside from SEA using the Sun Bear, and I suspect that's because of the leak a few months beforehand, and North America using the Beaver I think they all have been anyways, though the Koala and Kangaroo probably are so close in general familiarity that either could have been the headliner. I'm going to try to keep to that idea with some exceptions. So here goes:

Rainforest/Tropical - Sloth - not sure on exact species - I'm thinking this theme is the most likely theme we'll see sometime this year but I'm not sure it'll be the Q1 pack.
Islands - Tasmanian Devil - very hard to pick between this and the Kiwi.
a "Cold/Ice" type of theme, for lack of a real snazzy title - Walrus
Highlands - Wolverine (it's time for a mustelid to headline and the Wolverine is probably in the second tier of general familiarity)
Petting Zoo - Rabbit - not sure on exact species
Farmlands - Sheltland Pony, though this theme may be combined with the petting zoo idea.
Dry Lands - Crested Porcupine - this is more Savannah or Plains and scrubland, not Desert - but i think the theme is too close to Grasslands IMO
Desert - Dromedary
Avian - Toucan or Bald Eagle - potentially several birds honestly.
Nocturnal - our friends the Tasmanian Devil and the Kiwi both make good choices, though I suspect we won't see this type of theme, it too close to Twilight's theme.
Coastal - Walrus again
Arboreal - Sloth again
West Asia - Golden Jackal -- hear me out here, despite having soo many canines, we've not had one headline a pack as yet. Probably would not be the most well known, but could give us our final Canid.
India - Indian Cobra. A cobra is the only standard exhibit animal I think could headline a pack.

Any other ideas to add? I think that covers most of the more commonly discussed ideas but I could be missing something.
I think it would be better to have a monkey like the howler or spider headline an aboreal pack. Just my opinion though.
 
A simple enrichment item that make birds like waldrapp ibises and vultures fly from the ground and up on a cliff to sit is all such birds need to behave believable.

Same can be done with a dead tree for other birds
That is actually a great idea. I would hate if Ibises, spoonbills and other big enough birds were locked in that huge exhibit box. An enrichment is always a nice compromise for things like that, as those birds do not fly that much in zoos anyways.
 
I think it would make sense if some birds used perching points on climbing structures and climbable trees that birds could directly fly onto. However I dont think having stuff like parrots and toucans would look good if they were habitat animals, makes more sense for large birds like herons, ibises or birds of prey, the WE is kinda smolish for those (although I've seen birds of prey in smaller spaces).

However for now the most likely thing is that typical aviary birds are gonna be exclusively WE (parrots, kookaburras, pigeons, etc.) and habitat birds will be like existing ones (basically what everyone else says: ibises, groundfowl, waterfowl, wading birds, storks, pelicans, stuff that can work without actual flying).

On other topic, my personal picks for pack flagships would be:
  • Drylands/Shrublands: Crested porcupine
  • Woodlands: Sloth (would make the pack sell like doughnuts)
  • Highlands: Pallas cat/Wolverine
  • Islands: Tasmanian devil
  • Birds: Scarlet macaw, by a long shot

I dont think we are getting other types of packs tbh (giggled when I saw someone naming an india pack lol)
 
what’s the obsession with ‘flagships’? - maybe that meant something back when buying a game meant going into a shop… although, even then, not for expansions (in the days before DLC)… these days it means almost nothing.

Pictures / Visuals will grab your attention before words, so it will make the difference from a high selling game straight out of the gate to a clunker before word of mouth kicks in.
Plus the title and description will change for the player for example from English to Japanese. The animal on the 'cover' won't and has to universally represent the pack. as pointed out to me by a colleague of mine, people can't be bothered to read description's anymore so it's down to the flagship to sell it, and it should be the most recognisable animal, and ideally it is cute/powerful so for a prospective island pack it would be the kiwi.
 
Pictures / Visuals will grab your attention before words, so it will make the difference from a high selling game straight out of the gate to a clunker before word of mouth kicks in.
Plus the title and description will change for the player for example from English to Japanese. The animal on the 'cover' won't and has to universally represent the pack. as pointed out to me by a colleague of mine, people can't be bothered to read description's anymore so it's down to the flagship to sell it, and it should be the most recognisable animal, and ideally it is cute/powerful so for a prospective island pack it would be the kiwi.
All of this is why I think the idea of a headliner/flagship animal is important, thank you for saying it better than I probably could. Consider the Grasslands pack, if they had put the Maned Wolf on the cover, most of us here would know what that is, but to people just casually looking at the contents of the DLC, they may think it's just another fox. The Armadillo, as much as I personally don't like it, is recognizable and unique compared to what's already in the game. NAAP was a bit of a headscratcher as they used the Beaver instead of the Moose, Sea Lion or Cougar, but the Beaver is well known, and it was our first rodent - actually 2 were in that pack, but it was likely taking the thought that it was..finally...a rodent.

Also, why shouldn't we discuss flagship animals? Some animal is going to be on the cover, has to be. What's the issue with speculating which ones?
 
And, in my opinion, it's a fun thing to speculate ahaha. Each pack having a "representative" of some sort is a cute concept.
I guess if some people are really concerned about it, rather than thinking of it as a flagship/headliner, they can feel free to think of it as "what animal would most likely be included in this theme?" Win/Win.
 
I guess if some people are really concerned about it, rather than thinking of it as a flagship/headliner, they can feel free to think of it as "what animal would most likely be included in this theme?" Win/Win.
So, what'd your idea of a headliner/flagship animal?🤪🤣...

Kidding. I think calling it flagship/headliner is just the easiest way to describe it, but imma make up a new term for it we can use: Keyart Animals (KA or KAs)...

So, for an Islands pack, I feel like the KA would be a Tasmanian devil and/or kiwi. It really depends on the roster, to be honest...
For a farmlands/domestic pack, something like a bunny or maybe having a WE animal as a KA would be cool. Imagine having rainbow lorikeets as the KA, right smack on the cover
 
Ah so when I suggest headliner/flagship animals its a bad idea that doesn't matter to sales, but when others say it it's totally fine.... Sigh
Of course that's not the case. I'm not sure if this was directed at me, maybe not at all, but just checking. If I've ever made anyone feel like their animal suggestions were wrong or bad suggestions to make, or how they should be marketed or implemented I apologize. Everyone has a right to their opinions. We all may not always agree with each other's opinions, but the great thing about opinions is that opinions are always going to be valid, since each opinion is a summation of how a person feels about certain animals.
 
The Ides of March are upon us
From the last 2 years I have noted that this time is usually when speculation goes wild here in the forums.
2 years ago the SEA pack was announced mid March and came out late march
Last year we had to anxiously wait till the end of March for announcement for release early April
I’m really hoping for info before mid march

While playing recently, I noted that it feels like something new is needed at this point in the game. While they definitely need to keep going with the WE, I feel something else game changing needs to be added.
 
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