Spring dlc Speculation 2023

[Narwhaler]

I would love it if they added an option that makes you unlock species as your zoo rating increases, it is one of the important progression aspects that PZ lacks as a zoo game and would feel pretty fresh.

Also thinking about a possible islands pack it wouldn't be that different to what conservation or twilight were, besides, nobody really cares about how consistent the theme is as long as the pieces are useful and the animals added are wanted. A Sumatran tiger, for example, would be a horrible idea, it hardly even represents an insular endemism to begin with lol and no, the community wouldn't welcome another tiger because surprise! we already have 2 tigers in the game, honestly why am I even explaining why adding a 3rd tiger is not a good idea? It obviously isn't xD

 

[Swiftie_Midnights_]

I just REALLY REALLY hope for options for Increase the number of variations!
I can't believe that in the sandbox you need to pray to get Albino Anaconda (for example..)
I really hope for options in the settings of if you want to increase the number of variations: medium, high, very high. that is what I hope to see this year, because that is an real game changing for sandbox players.

 

[Humble Bumble]

The Sumatran Tiger is a strong contender for one of the places in an Island themed pack.

reasoning for it

1. Its a feline
2. Offers a larger option of animal to balance all the ankle biter's suggested
3. Shepreth
4. Tiger's been done before so doesn't require a new rig.
5. It's a tiger. People love tigers. No reasonable person will be upset by it's inclusion.

Oh boy i disturbed the bee hive. Purposely

Hmm, I would not be "upset" per se, but I would definetely think it would be a wasted slot, there are alot of animals that could re-use existing rig that I would rather see than a third tiger.

or a wasted slot would be a sloth that spends all/most it's time on the ground. It would be unusable.

Id love this inclusion, but there's gonna be a large outcry.

There is going to be a large outcry from a vocal minority over at least one animal in the roster anyway.

Yeah i have to agree. From all the possible candidates for an islands pack, a third tiger is pretty much the last thing in wanna see

and I agree, I never said I actually wanted a third tiger, but have accepted it is a good possibility. Yet sadly the way things are going wild Sumatran tigers may not be around to see a Planet Zoo 2

The Sumatran Tiger is a Strong Contender to be the most unnessecary and redundant animal to wish for.
Literally just use a small bengal tiger, even clones would have so many better ones like american flamingo, cuban crocodile, a fur seal, etc

In my opinion a more unnessesary and redundant animal would be a tree kangaroo or tamarin that spends most of it's time on the ground, if that is the case I think I would prefer another wallaby, elephant or rhino to one i couldn't use.

I assire you most people will be upset if it takes a dlc roster place.

Blimey...if they are so upset then it's because they have worked / hyped themselves up to expect a pack based on their own assumptions, frontier themselves have said nothing about what the next dlc will be. Plus this pack's content would have been locked in many months ago and using past wishes. So to be upset about some idealogical pack based on their own ideas of today and then go blame the developers and/or throw a tantum when you don't get it is an example of a non reasonable behaviour. And they probably will be the same people who would find something of nothing to be upset about anyway no matter the pack.

 

[KönigDerKaffeebohnen]

Oh boy i disturbed the bee hive. Purposely



or a wasted slot would be a sloth that spends all/most it's time on the ground. It would be unusable.



There is going to be a large outcry from a vocal minority over at least one animal in the roster anyway.



and I agree, I never said I actually wanted a third tiger, but have accepted it is a good possibility. Yet sadly the way things are going wild Sumatran tigers may not be around to see a Planet Zoo 2



In my opinion a more unnessesary and redundant animal would be a tree kangaroo or tamarin that spends most of it's time on the ground, if that is the case I think I would prefer another wallaby, elephant or rhino to one i couldn't use.



Blimey...if they are so upset then it's because they have worked / hyped themselves up to expect a pack based on their own assumptions, frontier themselves have said nothing about what the next dlc will be. Plus this pack's content would have been locked in many months ago and using past wishes. So to be upset about some idealogical pack based on their own ideas of today and then go blame the developers and/or throw a tantum when you don't get it is an example of a non reasonable behaviour. And they probably will be the same people who would find something of nothing to be upset about anyway no matter the pack.

Yeah you disturbed the hive by suggesting an objectivly bad decision.
Ofcourse everybody has their subjective wants and need, but there are some things that objectivly do not add much to the game aka animals that could be achieved by name swapping an existing animal.
Why is the EBB or Sumatran Tiger an objectivly bad addition while an animal like the american flamingo, which still is pretry much a clone, isnt?
The first 2 are basicly allready in the game, if you ignore the name the bengal tiger and HBB look like them, propaply more so irl then in game cause man does the HBB Model suck.
Meanwhile American flamingo, you cant do that.
Why? Cause its bright red and has clear and immediatly noticeable visual differences.

 

[FoxyDee]

Yeah you disturbed the hive by suggesting an objectivly bad decision.
Ofcourse everybody has their subjective wants and need, but there are some things that objectivly do not add much to the game aka animals that could be achieved by name swapping an existing animal.
Why is the EBB or Sumatran Tiger an objectivly bad addition while an animal like the american flamingo, which still is pretry much a clone, isnt?
The first 2 are basicly allready in the game, if you ignore the name the bengal tiger and HBB look like them, propaply more so irl then in game cause man does the HBB Model suck.
Meanwhile American flamingo, you cant do that.
Why? Cause its bright red and has clear and immediatly noticeable visual differences.

Agreed. While there certainly are differences between Bengal and Sumatran Tiger, mainly in the head and size, they are really minor in the grand scheme. Is really some minor head changes worth a whole DLC slot?

Meanwhile this is really noticeble difference at first sign. Of course, if someone doesnt care about flamingos, it would be a wasted slot for them too. But I just feel it would be a bit more justified to get a much different second flamingo than a third, very similar tiger (not to mention the game could use a colourful SA bird, meanwhile we got like what, 5 asian big cats?).

But like I said, everyone consider something else a wasted slot, I guess there will never be a general agreement.

 

[DarthQuell]

But like I said, everyone consider something else a wasted slot, I guess there will never be a general agreement.

Unfortunately, yes. Like, I don't consider the gray fox a wasted slot and I'm sure there are those who agree, but them you get people who say it's dumb because we already have 3 foxes (check Nicholas Lionrider's video about the issues with the meta-wishlist. These are practically his words). Of course, these people don't know that a gray fox isn't a true fox and also that it has unique behavior that other canines don't. They just see fox and think: "clone. Wasted"

 

[MarkedTurf]

I'm personally more interested in the update. As it is, PZ is fun. But, it doesn't have anything to engage me.
There's no challenge after building the zoo. There's no unlock system where you need a certain amount of stars to unlock newer and better species. There's no missions to improve you zoo's popularity...

Planet Zoo is more like "build-a-zoo sim" and not "build-a-zoo and run it sim"

I strongly agree with the sentiment behind this and the responses others have stated. To date one of the more satisfying experiences for me with Planet Zoo was the beta launch. Collecting credits because I wanted to get my hands on the giraffe for the first time.. that sense of progression was quickly lost, and I was taken aback by it considering the intended themes.

I love the idea of breeding programs, conservation and reputation, and continued performance reviews, being tied to what I could adopt and gain permission to host in the zoo in franchise.

Honestly so much lost potential from a gameplay perspective that goes beyond the building angle.

 

[FoxyDee]

Unfortunately, yes. Like, I don't consider the gray fox a wasted slot and I'm sure there are those who agree, but them you get people who say it's dumb because we already have 3 foxes (check Nicholas Lionrider's video about the issues with the meta-wishlist. These are practically his words). Of course, these people don't know that a gray fox isn't a true fox and also that it has unique behavior that other canines don't. They just see fox and think: "clone. Wasted"

True that. We all have our favourites that we want in the game that many others would consider a bad idea to add. Like I totally understand why people would not want the American Flamingo in DLC, but I just want it because I like them better haha.

I would not mind the fox, even if I have never seen it in zoos, especially if Frontier would make them climb to trees/branches. I am affraid their chances to appear are quite low, but you never know, Frontier likes to surprise us with some unorthodox picks.

 

[markun]

I really, really want a Sumatran tiger. It would probably be a better model than the bengal tiger, would be more realistic for any conservation-focussed zoo and has a compelling conservation narrative that is consistent with the aims of the game.

 

[BananaLeech]

Yeah you disturbed the hive by suggesting an objectivly bad decision.
Ofcourse everybody has their subjective wants and need, but there are some things that objectivly do not add much to the game aka animals that could be achieved by name swapping an existing animal.
Why is the EBB or Sumatran Tiger an objectivly bad addition while an animal like the american flamingo, which still is pretry much a clone, isnt?
The first 2 are basicly allready in the game, if you ignore the name the bengal tiger and HBB look like them, propaply more so irl then in game cause man does the HBB Model suck.
Meanwhile American flamingo, you cant do that.
Why? Cause its bright red and has clear and immediatly noticeable visual differences.

I can see why people give a pass to the American flamingoes while being crossed with EBB and Sumatran tiger. Other than looks most people also have subspecies fatigue. People sort of had this fatigue when Frontier developped the "much beloved" zoo tycoon xbox edition which had a great roster with seven "distinct" lions, six tigers, nine giraffes, and four chimpanzees to somehow make up for the lack of many essential species such as gorillas, zebras, and leopards.

EBB and Sumatran tigers are also contreversial bc we already have two brown bears and two tigers. I am sure that if we had two flamingoes from the beginning of the game, people would vocally oppose the addition of a third flamingo species similar to how some people oppose the addition of a thirs brown bear and tiger sub.

 

[KönigDerKaffeebohnen]

I really, really want a Sumatran tiger. It would probably be a better model than the bengal tiger, would be more realistic for any conservation-focussed zoo and has a compelling conservation narrative that is consistent with the aims of the game.

My honest answer to that is get a mod.
There are tons of remaster mods out there and while i understand the reasoning of not wanting to use mods cause i dont use them aswell, this is such a minor change that pretending or a remasterd mod would not only not waste a dlc slot, but also props looks better anyways in case of the mod

 

[Captain Callum]

 

[FoxyDee]

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Outch. But I do like the detail of Frontier printing the copies (clones), LOL.

 

[BananaLeech]

Unfortunately, yes. Like, I don't consider the gray fox a wasted slot and I'm sure there are those who agree, but them you get people who say it's dumb because we already have 3 foxes (check Nicholas Lionrider's video about the issues with the meta-wishlist. These are practically his words). Of course, these people don't know that a gray fox isn't a true fox and also that it has unique behavior that other canines don't. They just see fox and think: "clone. Wasted"

That is sort of how I feel when people unironically think that the Tasmanian devil alone will complete Australia when people overlook or ignore other short-beaked echidna monitor lizards, and brushtail possums.

 

[DarthQuell]

I'm sorry, I had to make it

 

[DarthQuell]

That is sort of how I feel when people unironically think that the Tasmanian devil alone will complete Australia when people overlook or ignore other short-beaked echidna monitor lizards, and brushtail possums.

I think that's a little different, though. That's more on am international level of Australian animal commonness. Although as it is, I think the international rep for Australia is already more or less complete, right?
Tassies and also the echidna, possums, and perentie are more for local Australian zoos or super specialized zoos, right?

 

[yoav_r]

I think that's a little different, though. That's more on am international level of Australian animal commonness. Although as it is, I think the international rep for Australia is already more or less complete, right?
Tassies and also the echidna, possums, and perentie are more for local Australian zoos or super specialized zoos, right?

Australian monitors are actually common in captivity, and also the very very common black swan. But yeah we got international bases covered.

 

[Captain Callum]

I think that's a little different, though. That's more on am international level of Australian animal commonness. Although as it is, I think the international rep for Australia is already more or less complete, right?
Tassies and also the echidna, possums, and perentie are more for local Australian zoos or super specialized zoos, right?

The international representation? The emu, wallaby, kangaroo, and koala pretty much covers 75 percent of international collections more or less. I'm happy with Oceania right now as the remaining animals are specialised collections that usually have large and expansive sections for Australia

 

[paul78]

Gladly take a Sumatran tiger, flamingo, giraffe, crocodile, and a few others

 

[MarikMoon]

Whatahell, PZ just need more south american animals instead dumbass Attack of the Clones