This is what many streamers make a living on. They are honestly excited and have fun and people watch them for that....damn the game they actually play. Good humor and attitude is infectious. I am watching a certain twitch streamer who streams World of Warships. I simply enjoy listening to him, his jokes and like how he acts completely naturally in regards to the game. He always looks like he has a lot of fun with that slow paced game.
I started to play WoW as well and I just couldnt wrap my head around it. Once I got the basics down it was just one match after the other. What kind of victory chances you got or if you had fun at all depended heavily on the people you ended up with so personal skill, awareness and capability is just a small part of having fun. The rest is completely randomized. I like overcoming a challenge as much as the next guy but this is frustrating to me. Years ago I also lashed out at my teammates over this. Nowadays I just clamp up but I can observe how many people act like I did back then and it ruins the fun for everybody. Sometimes you wait for 10 minutes for a match to happen and then it starts with 2 guys being AFK or yoloing into the middle leaving you at an instant disadvantage. Moments like that I could just throw my mouse into the monitor. Maybe it would be easier or better if I shared my own playtime with an audience or teammates but thats how it is if I dont.
Needless to say I never found "the fun" that this streamer captured and transported. WoW just wasnt for me. And I continued watching that streamer and watching him is entertaining, actually doing it myself is frustrating. I just dont "get" how he can do this for 5-8 hours straight....every day. I would go insane.
I dont think Mole is lying or exaggerating his experiences. Hes rather timid and doesnt go out "OMG guys bestest game EVAH so much better then ED /smirk" like others do. Its easy to accept his report because <SNIP too much info, delving into "discussing the poster" territory">. Never forget tho that you are not him, he might have a very specific taste and a level of patience or acceptance that you might not have. Mole reports he is into mining and considers it fun. And from what he writes it actually SOUNDS like fun too.
Have you watched a Star Citizen stream or video about mining? Without skipping? Do you like what you see? Dont consider the "fun" you can hear out of his posts,,,,focus on what you see and your own reaction because THAT is going to determine if you have fun or not, you cant "force" it. And if you dont think it looks like fun then it probably isnt. Folks like Mole are responsible for me watching SC videos in the first place. First for trying to figure out if this game is for me. Next to see if what he and others report is actually there. And if I dont find what I expect then he isnt a liar either. He just has a different taste so he can enjoy it while I cant.
For example most backers who still play the PTU dont seem to mind the tedious affairs in between the "fun". The walking around, running from A to B, minutes of take-off and landing, many more minutes of travel time. Its easy to focus on the rewards which in this case is a beautiful screenshot of snow-covered trees or mountain sides but you cannot circumvent the way there or that you might run into a crash 2 minutes from your destination and have to start over.
So I dont deny him his fun. I consider his reports as truthful. But I also consider the folks who point out the negative things as factual. The bugs, the boring interplay, the rough state of everything. Certain people dont mind all that, others do. And if I consider that somebody who had a "negative" exerience with Star Citizen reports the truth then my next task is to figure out if what he describes would affect me as well because I know myself and thats it. Its easy to get lost in the hype or develop expectations that simply are not tthere. If i would only consume trailers and read the "good" reports I would purchase every game on the market because there is always something nice to say (and I actually did that for a time.....) but if you consider the negative reports as well then suddenly more then half of the titles easily drop out and the more details you learn about and consider the smaller that list becomes.
There is no denying that Star Citizen profits heavily on its visual asthetics. It always did. Its the first thing you see. Like a good looking girl who might be a complete female dog in reality. First impressions count and the nice screenhots and high polish are Star Citizens equivalent of make-up and cosmetic surgery. It might come with age but looks aint so important anymore. Because beauty is fleeting and you end up with whats underneath.When the first iteration of the PTU got released people almost wet themselves stating "oh wow, its just an alpha and it already looks this good? Its going to be the BDSSE, word" and truth be told....I was one of them.
But you look past the graphics at some point if you want to figure out if its a good game or not, thats something many people dont seem to get who equal good graphics with good game.
Now....some things might actually be fun. But it depends on the baseline really. If everything else is sh33t then mining is really fun. Yeah, I can get behind that. Theres nothing to do so flying over vistas and making nice screenshots....so rewarding. Yep, understand that.
If somebody comes out and claims that what SC currently is tho is "better then already released AAA games" then I would require proof and simple good looking pictures are not proof but this is a course of discussion we have had for years now. And most ardent defenders retreated to the "fun" aspect because thats safe. It doesnt prove anything or make the game better in any way but it cannot be disputed, not like everything factual about the game. Generally the "better then ED" routine makes me instantly dislike the post or poster. If you cannot convince me of a products qualities on its own merits then I really dont need the bashing of a product that has established itself already. And even here there is a difference with people who say it but make it very clear that that is their opinion, not a fact. And then you have the folks who speak like its undeniable fact and reality.
Star Citizen for the most part survives on the few people who have an insanely high tolerance for bugs and raw state and them still having fun doesnt mean the game is in any way "superior" to other games. If you set their view as your baseline you are really setting yourself up for disappointment. And doing that and making your own experience is your absolute right. But if the question is "theres so much drama about this game and so many people consider it great...there must be something to it" then thats why.
Mole and me even share some characteristics in taste, playing the same games but in regards to Star Citizen.....he simply sees things in it I cant see and he considers activities "fun" that would make me frustrated. Doesnt mean he is lying and I still accept his reports and even enjoy them because truth be told.....with THAT kind of bill the very least CIG can do is provide an alpha that some people can enjoy. I will never understand how somebody can consider a 250$ bill a "good purchase" when all it does is unlock a specific activity in a game but I dont have to. This alone is enough already for me never wanting to touch it. I have a very strong dislike against Pay to win but thats me. But if your stance is "I already shelled out the money....now the least I can do is have fun with what I have" then thats an attitude I can understand very well.
And too many reports these days simply reek of a hidden agenda. When posts start with "I come from ED, played for years, dumped thousands of hours into ED and picked up SC.....wow, its so much better guys" then I instantly assume its a shill. With a tailored post to appear genouine but its all fake. Again....if Star Citizen cannot stand on its own legs but has to rely on the work of other games to invoke the illusion of superiority my first reaction is rejection.
But....some people sound like jerks and what they say actually has merit. Still doesnt make me like them but you gotta accept reality. Also a lesson of life. If you are wrong and others are right that doesnt mean they have to be gentle in telling you being wrong. You might not like it but you gotta accept the facts and move on. What I ve seen and observed in this Star Citizen debacle so far has more then enough examples of deception, double standards, bias and pure fabrication (aka lying). And all the time other games need to be used to establish SCs qualities in the first place.
Hey, its 45 bucks, do whatever you want. If its not for you no big loss eh?
The same entrapment as F2P games really. Its "free", whats the risk? Well....you start playing and thats it. We all probably know how that goes and how F2P games make their money....small hint...its not because they are such great games or offer immersion, complexity or quality even. just to be on the same side....we are talking "mobile games" here.
I ve made purchases in the past I regretted later. Because the product didnt hold what it promised. And it might ve not been a lot of money but its a pure waste nevertheless and I hate waste with a passion. If I see somebody doing something that is less then efficient its like an itch I have to scratch. but I also cant look away. Most games in my steam library are games I simply didnt have the time to play yet but I m looking forward to most of them. There are a few select games that I bought and disliked but couldnt refund anymore, those stand out as "marks of shame" whenever I log in and look over my library.
After spending considerable time on Star Citizen, videos, reports, discussions, articles...I ve come to the conlusion that buying into SC would be a mistake for me because all the signs are there it ll be just one more mark of shame where I wasted my money. And ridiculing replies like "what, cant afford it?" or "I dont mind, I got enough money" really dont do anything for me in wanting to get into it.
Mole has spent thousands......THOUSANDS of dollars on pixel activity that is free or included in full games for 30 bucks or even less. That thought alone is insane to me. And he is not a rarity. We can safely say that many many people who are still into SC are concierge level or even multiples of that by now. You gotta wonder what made him do it. Especially as he comes across like a nice and down-to-earth guy (at soime point I need to post a scathing flame about him to counter all this brown-nosing geesh) so what is it?
My take.....high Star Citizen investments happen over time for the most part. Nobody dumps 3000 dollars in one go (there are a few I guess most sane people dont). In addition most sales are based on the promise of future development. You start small with the base investment and go from there. If Star Citizens current iteration hits the "sweet spot" for you, not necessarily best game ever but you like doing what you can do and you keep coming back then thats your road to concierge and higher right there. But I never forget that I buy complete games for 50 bucks or less that I can play for years. Star Citizens fan reports are for the most part based on people who dumpled several hundreds or even thousands into it over time. It changes your perspective because you are invested. Would you do the same again if you would find yourself outside tomorrow? Is Star Citizen really so much "fun" that you would instantly drop all those thousands AGAIN?
Its actually an interesting question.
The people who I consider credible on positive reports are speaking from a position of acceptance. They are "in it" with that amount of money. They are not going to get it back. Actually trying to find the fun they can and not focus on all the issues to rage about seems to be the healthy thing to do for me. I would try the same. Doesnt mean the game is actually worth that much. But in most cases it requires this level of investment and the correct mindset.
Uff, sorry bout the wall....not sorry! Bite me
